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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.08 18:45:00 -
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I would like to begin a petition for a recall election for the following CSM members:
Hans Jagerblitzen,
Trebor Daehdooh,
Darius III.
They are all incredibly useless oxygen sinks and are a detriment to the integrity of the CSM. Instead of doing their jobs and trying to make the game better for us, they decide to make a hamfisted grab at vote rigging for their own benefit. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1895780#post1895780 ) They must be removed and replaced immediately.
Similar to the last election instead of having an external website poll, just like this post if you agree. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1885
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Posted - 2012.09.08 19:38:00 -
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I like this post but how the hell do you spell Han's last name right but not Trebor's? CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2012.09.08 19:40:00 -
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Seleene wrote:I like this post but how the hell do you spell Han's last name right but not Trebor's?
Hans' name reminds me of J+ñgermeister that's why. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2012.09.08 19:49:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I would like to begin a petition for a recall election for the following CSM members: Hans Jagerblitzen, Trebor Daehdoow, Darius III. They are all incredibly useless oxygen sinks and are a detriment to the integrity of the CSM. Instead of doing their jobs and trying to make the game better for us, they decide to make a hamfisted grab at vote rigging for their own benefit. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1895780#post1895780 ) They must be removed and replaced immediately. Similar to the last election instead of having an external website poll, just like this post if you agree. E: Fixed the name. How do you not have Kelduum Revaan on that list?
(Even though Trebor and Hans are both defending a ridiculous piece of voting reform, I would not stick either on a recall list.)
Caldari Militia |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
2155
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Posted - 2012.09.08 20:14:00 -
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What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2012.09.08 22:32:00 -
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Two step wrote:What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? Be a colossal turd. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
810
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Posted - 2012.09.09 05:25:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Two step wrote:What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? Be a colossal turd. Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities"
It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.09 05:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Two step wrote:What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? Be a colossal turd. Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities" It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm. Shouldn't be that hard to out-vote us then. Oh wait, we're the only ones who care about the CSM elections. Oops. Guess we're a majority of the voting populace then. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
814
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Posted - 2012.09.09 06:55:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Two step wrote:What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? Be a colossal turd. Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities" It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm. Shouldn't be that hard to out-vote us then. Oh wait, we're the only ones who care about the CSM elections. Oops. Guess we're a majority of the voting populace then. Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.09.09 08:01:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents? Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from. |
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
815
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:03:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents? Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from. Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.09.09 22:51:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents? Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from. Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done? Sure. You might remember that the CSM was asked to prioritize the issue backlog at CCP, which resulted in features like Tidi. The supercap nerf grew on the input of CSM6, which helped lowsec as well as null; the emergency summit after the Incarna fiasco helped getting EVE back on track. POS mechanics have been improved due to CSM input (mostly onlining/anchoring timers). The list goes on. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1294
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:03:00 -
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None of these are as useless (other than entertainment) as Ank was, so they might as well stay. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
834
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:06:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Given the history of the CSM are you surprised that people think it is something for Null sec residents? Given that the majority of CSMs so far were entirely ineffective, yeah I am surprised. Then again I guess the only CSM that actually got **** done was led by Mittens, so I can see where the notion comes from. Maybe you could enlighten me as to what was actually done? Sure. You might remember that the CSM was asked to prioritize the issue backlog at CCP, which resulted in features like Tidi. The supercap nerf grew on the input of CSM6, which helped lowsec as well as null; the emergency summit after the Incarna fiasco helped getting EVE back on track. POS mechanics have been improved due to CSM input (mostly onlining/anchoring timers). The list goes on. So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:26:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents. Fine, drone space then. Nerfed, highsec minerals rose in price. The recent tech nerf was something that CSM6 has been lobbying for (although they've overdone it somewhat in my opinion). I'm interested how you can spin either of those into issues only of relevance to nullsec. Also I must have missed the patch that deleted all empire POSes. |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
179
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:04:00 -
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Brick has sloped enough that I dont think D3 will be on CSM8.
maybe FWeddit should field a competing FW representative for CSM8 to replace Hans.
Highsec will always produce useless CSM reps until someone can organize the carebear masses into a voting bloc.
Kelduum hasn't done too bad a job, I doubt any other member of the CSM has more contact with brand new players than he does. |
Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
297
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Posted - 2012.09.10 04:44:00 -
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I don't like the proposed voting reform either but this is thread is stupid. You should feel bad about yourself for making it. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:57:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:So features mostly concerning Null and a PR exercise for CCP. Very productive. So again are you surprised people think it is something for Null sec residents. Fine, drone space then. Nerfed, highsec minerals rose in price. The recent tech nerf was something that CSM6 has been lobbying for (although they've overdone it somewhat in my opinion). I'm interested how you can spin either of those into issues only of relevance to nullsec. Also I must have missed the patch that deleted all empire POSes. Where is drone space? Do the issues of POS anchoring times effect Null or Hi-sec more? Does the tech nerf now slow down other Alliances the ability to receive that kind of cash into their wallets?(On this I will admit Goonswarm actually warned CCP before tech as well as a lot of others but that was in the CCP knows best era) Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1631
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:06:00 -
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its true. nullsec is leading the way in nerf "features" that benefit other regions since 2010 |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:47:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Where is drone space? Do you acknowledge that removing 60% of the Tritanium supply from the market helped the Highsec miners? Because if you just go "they changed something in Nullsec and that means it doesn't influence any other part of the game" we can just stop discussing this.
Frying Doom wrote:Do the issues of POS anchoring times effect Null or Hi-sec more? Do you anchor modules on your Highsec POS? I guess if you just drop a barren stick in space then it doesn't affect you.
Frying Doom wrote:Does the tech nerf now slow down other Alliances the ability to receive that kind of cash into their wallets? No, tech has only depreciated in value for Goonswarm sellers. Seriously, what kind of a ******** question is that.
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Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:34:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:I would like to begin a petition for a recall election for the following CSM members: Hans Jagerblitzen, Trebor Daehdoow, Darius III. They are all incredibly useless oxygen sinks and are a detriment to the integrity of the CSM. Instead of doing their jobs and trying to make the game better for us, they decide to make a hamfisted grab at vote rigging for their own benefit. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1895780#post1895780 ) They must be removed and replaced immediately. Similar to the last election instead of having an external website poll, just like this post if you agree. E: Fixed the name.
You'll have your chance to vote for someone else at the next election, these people well at least Darius were voted for on the premise that he would probably do feck all.
If you don't like what they are or are not doing vote them off at the next CSM election God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:42:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Two step wrote:What do I have to do to make it on the awesome list? Be a colossal turd. Oh that must be code for "Try to make minorities into Minorities" It is amazing what the idea of Voting reform does to a minority like Goonswarm. Shouldn't be that hard to out-vote us then. Oh wait, we're the only ones who care about the CSM elections. Oops. Guess we're a majority of the voting populace then.
If you're the only ones who care and vote for the CSM why do we have it in the first place? God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:43:00 -
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So CCP can deflect blame. Remember why the CSM was originally instated? |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:46:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:So CCP can deflect blame. Remember why the CSM was originally instated?
Yes and you're point being? Just because it was needed then doesn't mean it's needed now. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:54:00 -
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My'ne point was to answer your question. Which was "Why do we have the CSM?", not "Wouldn't it be better to abolish the CSM?". |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:04:00 -
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Sirane Elrek wrote:My'ne point was to answer your question. Which was "Why do we have the CSM?", not "Wouldn't it be better to abolish the CSM?". Plus CCP still makes enough ****** decisions on its own that continuing to have the CSM as a firewall probably suits them quite well.
I think Darius was voted on to the CSM by people who were either apathetic,griefers or because they knew he wasn't going to do anything so why do we need a re-vote because one or more of the CSM are actually filling theirs pre-election pledges better than anyone else is?
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:08:00 -
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We don't need a re-vote. I know it's easy to just look at the corp tag, but the rumors of all of Goonwaffe being a big hive mind are unfortunately untrue. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:31:00 -
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Why is it whenever Frying Doom posts the distinct smell of durians enters the thread? Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Poetic Stanziel
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
1159
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:36:00 -
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Haha. I used to live in Malaysia. They tasted quite good, but smelled oh so nasty.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
838
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:38:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Why is it whenever Frying Doom posts the distinct smell of durians enters the thread? "The mystique of the stinky yet delicious durian is legendary among travelers to tropical Asia, and has inspired enough web pages to warrant a unique Fruit > Durian category in the Yahoo! directory. "
Source: http://ask.yahoo.com/20000815.html
Smelly yet delicious, that is a really nice compliment thanks. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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