Originally by: CCP Zirnitra

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Edited by: CCP Zirnitra on 06/06/2011 11:22:47

Originally by: kloma

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i agree with you icycle, but tbh there should have beena 3rd option, either a backup fleet to fight, or something.

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Icylce has pretty much listed the reasoning we used in this situation to award them the full win + handicap points. We have to take the position that there was no way for The R0NIN to know, that United Front Alliance was not gonna field a team, as UFA themselves didn't know until an hour before the match. We spent an extra 10 minutes talking to the UFA guys, trying to get a team for a last stand kind of thing, so we wouldn't have a forfeit, but they were unable to do so and decided to forfeit the match.

It would have been unfair for us to penalize The R0NIN, who did bring a viable, although fragile setup to the match, as they knew they had to handicap themselves to make it into the final stages. However, on a side note, what United Front Alliance could have done, was to bring one or two small, low points ships and that would have removed The R0NIN's handicap bonus.

With regards to alternate / backup teams, that would have been very unfair to the backup team, as we would have to award them the points and ranking of the team they replaced, in thus case 0 wins and 0 points, giving them no chance what so ever to advance to the final stages, as they would have to handicap themselves similarly to have a shadow of a chance. We had already decided prior to the tournament start, that no alternate teams would be used, after the first round had been played.

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Originally by: Xan Drakov

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Edited by: Xan Drakov on 06/06/2011 13:08:16

Originally by: Icylce

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Tldr: If u give Ronin 50 points for the win even tough they didn't score any point u have to take into account the handicapt because u are operating under assumption that the losing team fielded 50 points.

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Your not giving them the 50 points as a default - VC3: "If a team chooses to field less than 100 (50) points, unfielded points count towards the opponent's score". They fielded a team of zero, leaving 50pts unfielded thus the R0nin get 50 pts.

I'm sorry to the R0nin but Womble makes a very good case. At no point in the rules does it say fielding a team of zero is illegal or results in the match being forfeit.

Surely by this reasoning if a team in the group stage got a match with an alt alliance of there's they could just turn up with 1 dessy and have the other team not turn up basically putting them through the group stage?

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