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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
371
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:22:00 -
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Bloutok wrote:The only real problem with high sec is that one cannot defend, we are all sitting ducks, you cannot counter someone who knows he is going to die whatever the result of his attack will be. The ganking side will do it right and you die or you will smile a big smile.
I have no idea how to fix that in a way that is "sandbox thinking people" friendly.
CCP could always code something like, if someone red box you in high sec, you get 5 seconds while the ganking side guns do not fire, but they are GCC. Falcon to the rescue.
Or make all kinds of transport, mining ships have a 1 million armor and shield bonus in high sec.
Or make it impossible to fire at someone if you are not at war with that person..........
The real problem is how wrong you are. You absolutely CAN defend against gankers in hisec. Just because you're terrible and wont even try doesn't mean it isn't possible and CCP should turn the game into hello kitty online for babies |
Denidil
Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations
496
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:23:00 -
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don't carry too much value in a single freighter. when the isk:ehp ratio exceeds a certain value then it becomes profitable to gank for cargo drop. always has been this way ALWAYS SHOULD BE THIS WAY. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
371
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:25:00 -
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Even when failwatch drops and makes hisec that much more wowlike and terrible, the idiots will STILL complain about losing a ship as a result of their own bad decisions, like carrying 17 plex in a frigate |
Jonah Gravenstein
1137
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:26:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Even when failwatch drops and makes hisec that much more wowlike and terrible, the idiots will STILL complain about losing a ship as a result of their own bad decisions, like carrying 17 plex in a frigate
That didn't drop CCP can't patch stupid. |
Bloutok
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
6
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:29:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Bloutok wrote:The only real problem with high sec is that one cannot defend, we are all sitting ducks, you cannot counter someone who knows he is going to die whatever the result of his attack will be. The ganking side will do it right and you die or you will smile a big smile.
I have no idea how to fix that in a way that is "sandbox thinking people" friendly.
CCP could always code something like, if someone red box you in high sec, you get 5 seconds while the ganking side guns do not fire, but they are GCC. Falcon to the rescue.
Or make all kinds of transport, mining ships have a 1 million armor and shield bonus in high sec.
Or make it impossible to fire at someone if you are not at war with that person.......... The real problem is how wrong you are. You absolutely CAN defend against gankers in hisec. Just because you're terrible and wont even try doesn't mean it isn't possible and CCP should turn the game into hello kitty online for babies
You forgot to put something that as meaning in your post, so i will answer at your level of thinking.
The real problem is how wrong you are because your mother gave you everything except a brain.
You can absolutely not defend in high sec and i do not see any reason to say why because ... because. Well, because.
The hello kitty part. it's so dumb to begin with that i just cant find a way to reach your low brain power, i have no idea how to go that far down in the monkey chain of life. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
653
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:31:00 -
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Bloutok wrote:The only real problem with high sec is that one cannot defend, we are all sitting ducks, you cannot counter someone who knows he is going to die whatever the result of his attack will be. The ganking side will do it right and you die or you will smile a big smile.
I have no idea how to fix that in a way that is "sandbox thinking people" friendly.
CCP could always code something like, if someone red box you in high sec, you get 5 seconds while the ganking side guns do not fire, but they are GCC. Falcon to the rescue.
Or make all kinds of transport, mining ships have a 1 million armor and shield bonus in high sec.
Or make it impossible to fire at someone if you are not at war with that person.......... All of these suggestions are absolutely pants-on-head ********. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4647
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:32:00 -
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Bloutok wrote:You can absolutely not defend in high sec and i do not see any reason to say why because ... because. Well, because.
Did You Know that anybody with a GCC is a legal target? please leave |
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
83
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:34:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
A bloo bloo bloo?
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Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
277
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:36:00 -
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WHY DOES MY AFK DEFENSELESS SHIP NOT SURVIVE AN ATTACK THIS IS AN OUTRAGE CCP MUST DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I WILL NOT This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2579
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:37:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Even when failwatch drops and makes hisec that much more wowlike and terrible, the idiots will STILL complain about losing a ship as a result of their own bad decisions, like carrying 17 plex in a frigate
And people like you will still whine about people complaining, which btw is far more annoying. |
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Bloutok
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
6
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:37:00 -
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Andski wrote:Bloutok wrote:You can absolutely not defend in high sec and i do not see any reason to say why because ... because. Well, because. Did You Know that anybody with a GCC is a legal target?
O_o
Yes, what's your point ?
In the case here, someone may have been bumped 800km away from a gate, to defend, whoever would have wanted to, needed to GCC first or counter bump.... Wow !!!!
Else, you cannot counter alpha. There isn't even a point to firing back cause the guy is gonna die anyway, unless you like kill mails. |
Bloutok
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
6
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:43:00 -
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Dramaticus wrote:WHY DOES MY AFK DEFENSELESS SHIP NOT SURVIVE AN ATTACK THIS IS AN OUTRAGE CCP MUST DO SOMETHING BECAUSE I WILL NOT
What i am saying is that there should be a way to react. Someone AFK will obviously not whatever the way to react may be. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9430
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:44:00 -
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Bloutok wrote:Yes, what's your point ? His point is that you can defend yourself (and others) in highsec. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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stoicfaux
1556
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:44:00 -
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You can't fix Stupid, but you can at least let them pull the trigger themselves and absolve all responsibility with a clearly visible warning message.
The statistics for profitable cargo ganking are pretty well established. Now that the GUI lists the estimated ISK price of the goods in our cargo, we just add a warning message that pop-ups when you undock with goods exceeding a certain threshold versus your ship's EHP (as per fitting window.) For bonus points CCP can add the 'number of ships destroyed in the last 24 hours' statistic to the warning. Just print the total for your route.
"Do you really want to undock with 2.3 billion isk worth of cargo in a 833 EHP Kestrel, bearing in mind that 1,234 ships have been destroyed in the last 24 hours along the route you have chosen." Click 'Yes' or 'No'.
For redundancy, the same message can appear when you click on auto-pilot with high-value cargo.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2414
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:48:00 -
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One web from a corp mate would have solved the issue. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
337
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:50:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.
You put too much faith in people being kind. Why would any of us drop what we are doing to hunt some crimenal for no incentive? Ooooo... That guy has a crime flag, let's stop our current profitable endeavour that we enjoy to go ahoot someone who most likely is better prepared and is hoping we come to our deaths.
Sorry, just because someone can be shot by anyone does not mean everyone will come running to shoot them. |
Buck Futz
Suddenly Violence Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
76
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:52:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: Those freighter pilots could also set an escort fleet and take care of their business but no, they rather play alone with their dozen alts scouting systems and then cry their millions HP hull got gank with several dozens times the ship value in their cargo.
Gank mining barges with destroyers is silly, really really mongoloid game play. Gank freighters it's serious business and only serious gankers can afford to know when and how to do it, I see no problem here.
Totally gutless. Translation? "See, I fly Exhumers, so when Hulks get ganked its totally ridiculous and therefore deserve a buff." "Freighter pilots? F those guys."
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
653
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:57:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.
You put too much faith in people being kind. Why would any of us drop what we are doing to hunt some crimenal for no incentive? Ooooo... That guy has a crime flag, let's stop our current profitable endeavour that we enjoy to go ahoot someone who most likely is better prepared and is hoping we come to our deaths. Sorry, just because someone can be shot by anyone does not mean everyone will come running to shoot them. Except when they're in a freighter and just happen to be carrying juicy loot. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:03:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:One web from a corp mate would have solved the issue.
This exactly. Teaming up with ONE whole other person makes you nearly immune to ganks AND lowers your travel time (shorter align time = faster travelling) so splitting up your 20bil stack of goods into smaller bits doesn't hurt as much. Lazy stupid people don't deserve their nice expensive loot, this is why we take it from them. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
66
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. Perhaps that "pvp" thing in highsec is getting a bit inconvenient for some people, huh.
How is it PVP when the other player can't fight back? Hmm makes sense. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
653
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:19:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. Perhaps that "pvp" thing in highsec is getting a bit inconvenient for some people, huh. How is it PVP when the other player can't fight back? Hmm makes sense. They can. Derp. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2600
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:23:00 -
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Freighters should be allowed to be able to add mods for tanking. Makes no sense that the people who designed such ships to be carrying large amounts of things through space thought they would never need any type of defense ever. 3-4 lows and 3 or 4 mids would be nice. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
66
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:24:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Kult Altol wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Jim Hazard wrote:In the end if you buff freighters most likely you will only make suicide ganking more profitable as people will feel a lot more secure and will carry around even more in their cargo holds. Perhaps that "pvp" thing in highsec is getting a bit inconvenient for some people, huh. How is it PVP when the other player can't fight back? Hmm makes sense. They can. Derp.
Enlightening, you are full of wisdom. you should write a book on Eve defense strategy.
edit, spelling correction A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
handige harrie
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:25:00 -
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Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2600
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:27:00 -
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handige harrie wrote:Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance
I found the hidden msg you cleverly hid in there. |
Ghazu
153
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:29:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:handige harrie wrote:Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance I found the hidden msg you cleverly hid in there. hur hur hur poo booger |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2600
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:30:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:handige harrie wrote:Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance I found the hidden msg you cleverly hid in there. hur hur hur poo booger
That's all I hear when you Goons talk, no matter what you say...just sounds like that. |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
245
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:31:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Bloutok wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Bloutok wrote:Not safe. But there should always be a way to have a chance to react to something. Friends / escorts for example. What's the escort going to do VS alpha ? Alpha back of course. good joke |
Ghazu
153
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:33:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Ghazu wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:handige harrie wrote:Goons are doing EVE a favor by removing stupid and restoring the NAV/smarts balance I found the hidden msg you cleverly hid in there. hur hur hur poo booger That's all I hear when you Goons talk, no matter what you say...just sounds like that. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1903756#post1903756 |
Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
442
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:34:00 -
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Puts pants on head, steps onto soap box and reads the tea leafs
- This time next year 0.0 space will be 100% blue and all parties will have sing-songs across the regions of law-less space about being space pirates "YAAH!" - Low sec will be revisited and what is low sec will stretch encroaching on current high sec leaving only 0.9 and higher systems secure and protected by concord - Unicorns will spring forth from wormholes and block Alpha strikes screaming "ALPHA STRIKE BACK OF COURSE, OF COURSE, NO, I'M A UNICORN, NOT A HORSE!" - EVE Will gain millions of new subscribers
- takes pants off of head - steps down - takes a breath - laughs with an old friend, 'Mr Max Zim' and he's old saying "don't undock in what you can't afford to lose".
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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