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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9438
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:04:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore. May I suggest a closer reading?
It rather seems to offer a people explaining how to solve very simple issues and a few who don't quite grasp what GÇ£griefingGÇ¥ means. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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The Slayer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:20:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:[quote=Powers Sa]I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore.
We are explaining to you, in very simple easy to understand details, how to avoid the very ganks that we are carrying out. It is hilariously simple to not get ganked. There are 11 pages of people explaining how to do it, to summarize :
Don't carry too much stuff in one freighter Don't fly through known dangerous pipes Don't fly at peak times Don't fly solo (use a scout/webber/logistics) Think about your cargo and maybe use a different ship to haul it (low volume? Blockade Runner. High Value? Jump freighter has twice the EHP of a regular one.)
Its REALLY EASY to not get ganked. But just how it was really easy to not get your Hulk exploded during hulkageddon (fit some tank instead of full cargo expanders you idiots) if you bleat hard enough CCP will probably do something. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
301
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:33:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Powers Sa wrote:TLDR there are enough dumb people in this game that a few can stand to lose a little bit for their errors in judgement. We have nullsec FC's who lose whole fleets for their idiocy and errors in judgement. You lost my attention when you started bragging about being good at a video game and calling other people dumb. That and your smug avatar really makes me wanna punch you. I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore. ((i thought you guys liked to roleplay :( ))
Pirates live everywhere. This is nothing new. Guiding Hand Social Club has been doing it forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A19q7rysLs |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
344
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FREIGHTER PILOTS, ONCE ******** CRIMEWATCH COMES AROUND NOBODY WILL GANK YOUR PRECIOUS FREIGHTER FULL OF 50 BILL ISK CARGO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SCOOP IT WITHOUT BEING FREELY SHOT AT BY ANYONE.
From the last I heard CCP pushed back crimwatch to coincide with Ring mining to protect the Goons it won't be implemented until 2020
-á"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people-ávery angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - D. Adams |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
383
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:10:00 -
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Dear OP: do us all a favor and unsub. Thanks in advance! |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1638
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:12:00 -
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Dear Goon: do us all a favor and find another game to terrorize. Thanks in advance! "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
383
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:12:00 -
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I hear most other MMOs in existence offer fairly risk-free gameplay; you might try one of those! |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:15:00 -
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Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Do both of us a favor and go find something else to do with your time. You'll have more fun derping about with no anxiety about losing your pixel-things and we won't have to read your terrible whiny posts anymore. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1640
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:15:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:I hear most other MMOs in existence offer fairly risk-free gameplay; you might try one of those! If I could find one with the same shared global scifi space universe EVE has I probably would.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9444
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:16:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Dear Goon: do us all a favor and find another game to terrorize. Another besides which one? Are you suggesting that they should start terrorising EVE? That doesn't seem like a very nice suggestion. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
174
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:17:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:[quote=Powers Sa]I'm done with this topic, it seems that all it has to offer are a bunch of holier than thou null jockeys trying to **** in the highsec cheerios because they've made their own part of the sanbox a bore. We are explaining to you, in very simple easy to understand details, how to avoid the very ganks that we are carrying out. It is hilariously simple to not get ganked. There are 11 pages of people explaining how to do it, to summarize : Don't carry too much stuff in one freighter Don't fly through known dangerous pipes Don't fly at peak times Don't fly solo (use a scout/webber/logistics) Think about your cargo and maybe use a different ship to haul it (low volume? Blockade Runner. High Value? Jump freighter has twice the EHP of a regular one.) Its REALLY EASY to not get ganked. But just how it was really easy to not get your Hulk exploded during hulkageddon (fit some tank instead of full cargo expanders you idiots) if you bleat hard enough CCP will probably do something.
I ran my freighter through lowsec to an island following exactly these rules... I broke the trip in to 2 parts either side of DT, and I only carried bulky, crappy stuff, my valuables were in my blockade runner and the corp hanger of my orca...
It was a sphincter clenching ride, but I moved everything into lowsec over a couple of days, always picking a different route and checking dotlan before each jump.
You can do the same in highsec...
If you really want to prevent ganking, or at least make it difficult, remove the autopilot.
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1640
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:17:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1688
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:18:00 -
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^ post circa 2011 |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
181
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:18:00 -
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21.5bil in 4 freighters, I see nothign wrong with that, the freighter pilots should have carried less valuable cargo. thats definitely worth losing a bunch of tornados for. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9444
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:19:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec. GǪthen you haven't been here long enough. The issue is that some people make silly assumptions that cost them their ships. Others are simply making sure to profit from those assumptions.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:20:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
So powerful that we've literally got an 18-man gang in highsec doing things with no alliance funding? Yikes, I can see the scale of your problem. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1640
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:22:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
So powerful that we've literally got an 18-man gang in highsec doing things with no alliance funding? Yikes, I can see the scale of your problem. Powers Sa wrote:A great deal of effort and work goes into this. We have a production team to keep us in ships. We started the gank fest with a 1bil investment. The cost of the gank usually mirrors the cost of the freighter hull, unlike miners who can be owned by 2 destroyers at a fraction of the cost. Lots of coordination is required on the production, scanning, bumping, hauling, salvaging, market clearing, and ultimately execution. These strikes are surgical. It is a gamble every time that we execute one of these ganks, and we have a risk/reward formula that we use to ensure that our ganks are free until the end of time. Every one of our gankers gets a free ship because our previous ganks (seed of 1bil) fund future ganks. This is a playstyle. If you autopilot in a freighter, you die. If you cruise around with 10bil worth of stuff and don't double-wrap, you die. To clarify, 4 different freighter pilots have died to us TWICE within 30 days (some within 48hours) because they failed to evolve. Mind your surroundings. Be more cautious, hell even be smart. We kill individuals who lack this capacity. Several people have slipped through our fingers by using just a modicum of intelligence. Poetic Stanziel wrote a great piece on how not to be dumb when you have expensive stuff to move. Always use collateral. General Freight cans exist for a reason. If you are a dumb and lazy freighter pilot, chances are you will die if you move through a tradehub pipe. When you are the very best at something, you take pride in it. How many of you can say you are the best at something? Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9444
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:24:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it? You realise that the two posts you quoted don't contradict each other, right?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4662
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:25:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?
Yeah uh they don't get alliance funding, they're entirely self sufficient
I think it's fairly obvious given the fact that they're getting hilarious drops to keep going at it! please leave |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:30:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it? Which one of those dead freighters were you?
Are you Gallente Citizen 20060217 or Miss Edney?
I fail to see you disputing any facts in this thread. You are just upset by truths and that's unfortunate. |
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Ghazu
153
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:31:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec. WE ARE DOING GOD'S WORK |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
387
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:34:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?
You're not very clever. It literally pains me to read threads like this given that the "problems" people invariably end up bitching about could be surmounted by the input of the SMALLEST amount of effort. I mean jesus christ, even WoW players generally take the time to research their characters and find the best talent builds / spell combos / whatever when they go and play. These "nerf cloaking, buff barges, buff freighters, neuter agression" threads are full of people who'd probably try and beat WoW without ever opening their skill sheets or picking up an item. "Dear Blizzard, my Paladin can't solo this dragon even though I spent literally 3 weeks in the newbie woods killing wolves, please fix your game." |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1641
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:37:00 -
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Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Jonah Gravenstein
1178
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:38:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it?
How is that bullshit?, 18 guys with a 1 billion isk seed don't need funding from their alliance, it's such a paltry sum that they probably put their own wallets into it and by the looks of it are getting a cracking return on their investment. CCP sell this game on the player driven content & a small squad of Goons running around ganking freighters is player driven content.
For those amongst us that think that hisec should be safe, I have found a sci-fi game, with spaceships that may appeal to you CCP can't patch stupid. |
Ghazu
153
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:39:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. christ go back to that like and get liked thread, this aint a nice place for you. |
Horatioh Kane
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:40:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:How many of you can say you are the best at something?
I can, boss man. :patriot:
AdmiralJohn wrote:Wait wait I have a solution.
People are saying that you can't retaliate to ganker in high sec. The obvious answer is that it should be much easier to PvP in high-sec. You could retaliate, or even strike preemptively, but Concord is holding you down!
I say it's time we all rally to have Concord step out permanently. This will at once get rid of ganking, and allow people to protect their assets preemptively.
This is obviously the best answer to everything ever. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:40:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9444
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:42:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. What's self-righteous and elitist about it? Just because they know how ganks works and are willing to explain what goes into it (and what would make it no longer work) doesn't make them elitist GÇö it's outright friendly.
GǪand demonstrating by example that the supposed problem doesn't exist is just a bonus.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Horatioh Kane
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:43:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow.
YOUR ELITIST ATTITUDE IS ALMOST AS BAD AS THAT JERK EVILWEASIL'S. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1644
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:49:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. Did you see "intergalactic summit" as the title of this section?
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
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