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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
351
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:50:00 -
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Mohamad Transporte wrote:just few minutes ago... Goons has destroyed 4 freighters in high sec (u can check eve-kill.net), total drop worth 21.5 billion isk!!!
21.5 Billion isk people!!!!
that beats 10/10 DED, FW Missions and incursions all together!!
if u want all alliances to leave their 0.0 systems and just go fun terrorizing high sec and earn money for that... stay cool about it CCP... as it will destroy the game
u gave protection for miners... its time for freighters/ JF revamp...
You:
Un-install.
Now.
There is a fine and proper artistry to wielding verbal scalpels, such that the crap-poster you've slashed doesn't even know they've been cut. But verbal bludgeons -- Those are just fun. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2651
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:51:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec. WE ARE DOING GOD'S WORK
God isn't real...EVE is. |
Jonah Gravenstein
1180
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:51:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. Did you see "intergalactic summit" as the title of this section?
MMORPG, Mostly masochists online role playing goons? CCP can't patch stupid. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9445
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:52:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:God isn't real...EVE is. This will end well.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Agent Akari
Hobo Industries Inc
30
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:03:00 -
[215] - Quote
Question, where is the fleet with remote armor reppers? |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
303
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:25:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. Maybe you got "Intergalactic Summit" and "General Discussion" mixed up? It is a little fun leaving a swath of staggering destruction in your wake.
Role playing a jerk, while pointing out the methodology for target selection, while trying to help people might seem arrogant, I know, but this is unprecedented destruction doled out by a small group of bored goons. We surpassed burn jita destruction, which was only 515bil by my record. A certain aura of smug is really hard to shake, so a few guys will probably come off as over the top. I wouldn't read into it too much. They probably were stuck scanning freighters for 3 hours at a time. A little forum bitching keeps them going.
Every time we talk about some goofy thing we do outside of nullsec, CCP swoops in and murders the parties involved. This time we picked something that plenty of people have done on a small scale, without being exploity.
Space Thug means never havin' to say you are sorry, I guess. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
2659
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:33:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. Maybe you got "Intergalactic Summit" and "General Discussion" mixed up? It is a little fun leaving a swath of staggering destruction in your wake. Role playing a jerk, while pointing out the methodology for target selection, while trying to help people might seem arrogant, I know, but this is unprecedented destruction doled out by a small group of bored goons. We surpassed burn jita destruction, which was only 515bil by my record. A certain aura of smug is really hard to shake, so a few guys will probably come off as over the top. I wouldn't read into it too much. They probably were stuck scanning freighters for 3 hours at a time. A little forum bitching keeps them going. Every time we talk about some goofy thing we do outside of nullsec, CCP swoops in and murders the parties involved. This time we picked something that plenty of people have done on a small scale, without being exploity. Space Thug means never havin' to say you are sorry, I guess.
Role playing a jerk? Is that what goonswarm is doing? Never found you guys to be jerks... more like...acting out because mommy and daddy are not home to supervise you right now. You guys seem more childish and annoying than you do jerks. |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:53:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: Role playing a jerk? Is that what goonswarm is doing? Never found you guys to be jerks... more like...acting out because mommy and daddy are not home to supervise you right now. You guys seem more childish and annoying than you do jerks.
Edit: As for your ingame actions... honestly I find you quite boring. Your "burn jita" event wasn't very exciting. Ganking AFK ships isn't very exciting. You guys should try to be more exciting. You might play the jerk role ingame...but you play the whine like children role on the forums.
Most of us are in our late 20's , early 30's with pretty good jobs. Its only Childish if you perceive us as such.
It is exciting for the people who were juking wardecs and blowing stuff up. Believe it or not, adrenaline is a fun thing. Blowing up stuff is a fun thing. You read far more into stuff than what is necessary. We just like to blow stuff up. It started off as AFK, and it has evolved into much much more. Your words and actions are those of someone who is frustrated by our ingame actions.
What excites you? If everything we do is so boring, then why do you care about this thread? We're just trying to have fun playing in a video game that offers many different outlets for entertainment. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
388
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:53:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote: Role playing a jerk? Is that what goonswarm is doing? Never found you guys to be jerks... more like...acting out because mommy and daddy are not home to supervise you right now. You guys seem more childish and annoying than you do jerks.
Edit: As for your ingame actions... honestly I find you quite boring. Your "burn jita" event wasn't very exciting. Ganking AFK ships isn't very exciting. You guys should try to be more exciting. You might play the jerk role ingame...but you play the whine like children role on the forums.
We get plenty of excitement in nullsec. Sometimes it's just fun to sit back, blow off some steam and blow up some moron's freighter(s).
I like that you don't consider the people posting whiny threads about how mommy and daddy need to keep them safe from the mean, mean world because they're incapable of doing it themselves children, though. |
Ghazu
157
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:04:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Nah you got it all wrong Goon, I actually agree to a point with you when it comes to freighters and such, it's your self rightous elitist attitude that seems so common among you and your peers that I'm allergic to. I'm roleplaying, holy cow. Maybe you got "Intergalactic Summit" and "General Discussion" mixed up? It is a little fun leaving a swath of staggering destruction in your wake. Role playing a jerk, while pointing out the methodology for target selection, while trying to help people might seem arrogant, I know, but this is unprecedented destruction doled out by a small group of bored goons. We surpassed burn jita destruction, which was only 515bil by my record. A certain aura of smug is really hard to shake, so a few guys will probably come off as over the top. I wouldn't read into it too much. They probably were stuck scanning freighters for 3 hours at a time. A little forum bitching keeps them going. Every time we talk about some goofy thing we do outside of nullsec, CCP swoops in and murders the parties involved. This time we picked something that plenty of people have done on a small scale, without being exploity. Space Thug means never havin' to say you are sorry, I guess. Role playing a jerk? Is that what goonswarm is doing? Never found you guys to be jerks... more like...acting out because mommy and daddy are not home to supervise you right now. You guys seem more childish and annoying than you do jerks. Edit: As for your ingame actions... honestly I find you quite boring. Your "burn jita" event wasn't very exciting. Ganking AFK ships isn't very exciting. You guys should try to be more exciting. You might play the jerk role ingame...but you play the whine like children role on the forums. tell us about mining in rookie systems |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1689
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:10:00 -
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Ghazu wrote: tell us about mining in rookie systems
wtf are you serious? |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1656
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:10:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:tell us about mining in rookie systems It sucks, older players with fleets of mining barges and orcas (which I'm coming to understand may very well be operated by a single person) come into the starter/school systems and clear cut entire fields forcing new players who barely know what they're doing to venture out into the neighboring systems where CCP's "no harassing newbs in the starter/school systems" rules don't apply, just so they can complete tutorial missions and/or make a pittance with their mining frigates/destroyers. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
539
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:15:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It sucks, older players with fleets of mining barges and orcas (which I'm coming to understand may very well be operated by a single person) come into the starter/school systems and clear cut entire fields BUT ITS THE SAFEST PLACE TO MINE Nothing Found |
Ghazu
157
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:17:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Ghazu wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Ghazu wrote:Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:Is griefing/harassing players in rookie systems allowed? There is a guy who's been harassing rookies in a system I mine in. Are you trying to exploit rookie protection? Get out and leave the system for the rookies. I mine there to help the rookies, I give them bonuses, answer questions, and I even give away most the isk I earn to help them out. I am not doing them any harm nor am I hiding out in a rookie system for protection. Are you mining the roids there while you 'help out' I am a miner, of course I mine there. But I don't take all my accounts there to mine all their ore. Wouldn't be helping at that point now would it. But between giving away isk, ships, chasing away exhumers, reporting bots, and trying to answer any questions I might be able to answer, my tiny amount of occasional mining there isn't really an issue. Most of the time local is dead quiet, hard to get people to talk there. Was giving away isk a while back and it took almost an hour before someone finally noticed in local and said something lol. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1872878#post1872878
why of course he mines there because he's a miner and of course it's from the like and get liked thread where dudes go like each other. no because this guy is a joke and like to stroke his epeen in front of wide-eyed new players.
just leave the rookie systems no ifs and buts. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1462
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:21:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:It sucks, older players with fleets of mining barges and orcas (which I'm coming to understand may very well be operated by a single person) come into the starter/school systems and clear cut entire fields BUT ITS THE SAFEST PLACE TO MINE That's... a thing, huh.
That shouldn't be a thing. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
539
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:That's... a thing, huh.
That shouldn't be a thing. That's exactly what I thought about that link in your sig... Nothing Found |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1689
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:23:00 -
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I... what... I don't even...
It's like some unemployed 23 year old GROWN ASS MAN sneaking into a baby nursery wearing a diaper and a bib CRAWLING INTO A FRICKIN CRIB and going 'gaa gaa goo goo', occasionally ripping his pacifier out to call other people 'childish'. |
GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:27:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:I... what... I don't even...
It's like some unemployed 23 year old GROWN ASS MAN sneaking into a baby nursery wearing a diaper and a bib CRAWLING INTO A FRICKIN CRIB and going 'gaa gaa goo goo', occasionally ripping his pacifier out to call other people 'childish'. Why hasn't this post been deleted? Mine were. |
GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:28:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Ghazu wrote: tell us about mining in rookie systems
wtf are you serious? Your post has no content, why has it not been deleted? |
GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:28:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Seriously, you have no god-given right to total diplomatic immunity in highsec. If you can't deal with that reality then why torture yourself paying a monthly fee to inhabit a virtual world that you don't like? Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec. WE ARE DOING GOD'S WORK Your post is not constructive and has no content. |
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
502
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:28:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:It does seem kind of strange that a ship capable of hauling that much cargo which aligns and warps as slowly as a freighter does would not have the ability to fit any sort of defensive modules or atleast a method to avoid being tackled. Also the fact that a ship type that didn't even exist when freighters were introduced is being used exclusively to do the ganking implies that an imbalance exists and should be corrected, after all it's only logical that when a weapon is created that gives one side an advantage over another that a counter is also created.
Losing 10b+ of stuff really, really sucks.... Sorry about that...
A core feature of EvE is that there are consequences for your actions, and CCP isn't going to hold your hand or prevent you from doing something unintelligent. This is why scamming, tricking, trapping, and taking advantage of the ignorance or poor decision of others is allowed. If you undock in a ship carrying 10b in cargo, and someone notices, you're gonna get ganked. It's just common sense... If your insurance company will pay you $$100k if you crash your $10k car, would you crash it? Would your neighbor?? In EvE, if you offer returns like this, people are going to do it....
And how could you protect against this? If they buff freighters so it takes twice or thrice as many talos's to destroy it, do you really think this will prevent the suicide gankers from ganking such a valuable target? Of course not!!! And it's not in CCP's game design to "prevent" you from making a bad choice.... nor should they...
And lets be frank, if we could fit modules to a freighter, could we really fit enough to make it safe to haul 10+b isk in cargo? I doubt it... Most people will just fit their ship for maximum utility, much like the old exhumers pilots. The old hulks could fit a 30+k EHP tank, but people CHOSE to fit for yield with pitiful sub-10k EHP tanks that a dessie or two could gank. Perhaps people don't realize how fragile a freighter is, making them a wonderful target in ignorance. But giving Burn Jita, given regular suicide ganks of freighters, given the decimation of orcas during hulkageddon, it takes a special type of ignorance not to realize that all ships are vulnerable, even in highsec. It's not CCP's job to prevent us from making bad decisions!!!
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GOTMYEYEONYOU
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:29:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Ganthrithor wrote:Paul Oliver wrote:Oh come off it Goon, I've only been at this 18 days and even I can see the issue here is your coalition has become so powerful that the only thing left for you guys to do is wreak havoc on highsec.
So powerful that we've literally got an 18-man gang in highsec doing things with no alliance funding? Yikes, I can see the scale of your problem. Powers Sa wrote:A great deal of effort and work goes into this. We have a production team to keep us in ships. We started the gank fest with a 1bil investment. The cost of the gank usually mirrors the cost of the freighter hull, unlike miners who can be owned by 2 destroyers at a fraction of the cost. Lots of coordination is required on the production, scanning, bumping, hauling, salvaging, market clearing, and ultimately execution. These strikes are surgical. It is a gamble every time that we execute one of these ganks, and we have a risk/reward formula that we use to ensure that our ganks are free until the end of time. Every one of our gankers gets a free ship because our previous ganks (seed of 1bil) fund future ganks. This is a playstyle. If you autopilot in a freighter, you die. If you cruise around with 10bil worth of stuff and don't double-wrap, you die. To clarify, 4 different freighter pilots have died to us TWICE within 30 days (some within 48hours) because they failed to evolve. Mind your surroundings. Be more cautious, hell even be smart. We kill individuals who lack this capacity. Several people have slipped through our fingers by using just a modicum of intelligence. Poetic Stanziel wrote a great piece on how not to be dumb when you have expensive stuff to move. Always use collateral. General Freight cans exist for a reason. If you are a dumb and lazy freighter pilot, chances are you will die if you move through a tradehub pipe. When you are the very best at something, you take pride in it. How many of you can say you are the best at something? Do you guys take classes in bullshit or are you recruited for your natural talent in it? this post is insulting and should be deleted |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
656
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:30:00 -
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It's not often I say this, but I'll go ahead and say it.
That (clearing out rookie system belts) is something you shouldn't be allowed to do. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9447
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:35:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not often I say this, but I'll go ahead and say it.
That (clearing out rookie system belts) is something you shouldn't be allowed to do. Sure you should. The problem is rather that they contain too much ore in too high concentration. Optimally, there should be no belts at allGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1465
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:37:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:That's... a thing, huh.
That shouldn't be a thing. That's exactly what I thought about that link in your sig... I'll have you know that, according to one of the people featured in it, that page does not exist. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Ghazu
157
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:37:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:[quote=Paul Oliver]It does seem kind of strange that a ship capable of hauling that much cargo which aligns and warps as slowly as a freighter does would not have the ability to fit any sort of defensive modules or atleast a method to avoid being tackled. Also the fact that a ship type that didn't even exist when freighters were introduced is being used exclusively to do the ganking implies that an imbalance exists and should be corrected, after all it's only logical that when a weapon is created that gives one side an advantage over another that a counter is also created.
Tier 3 BCs trade off firepower for weak tank. You don't get to have everything in one ship, if you want tanking power use properly fitted orcas or transport ships or take 2 trips with the freighter. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
658
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not often I say this, but I'll go ahead and say it.
That (clearing out rookie system belts) is something you shouldn't be allowed to do. Sure you should. The problem is rather that they contain too much ore in too high concentration. Optimally, there should be no belts at allGǪ The way I see it if you're an older player you really have no business messing about in rookie systems. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Malak Synn
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:40:00 -
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OP thinks there should be a revamp to Freighters & Jump Freighters...
Got news for ya, Sunshine...
It's only going to make the ships gunning for the ganks Bigger & Badder.
The Gank Squads will adapt, and continue to profit... Business As Usual.
Such is Life in New Eden... World Without End. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1657
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not often I say this, but I'll go ahead and say it.
That (clearing out rookie system belts) is something you shouldn't be allowed to do. Sure you should. The problem is rather that they contain too much ore in too high concentration. Optimally, there should be no belts at allGǪ Right because people who can barely fly their ship to an asteroid belt much less mine should be forced to fly out to systems where people in assault frigates (playing off the fact most newbs don't know about T2 ships yet and confuse them for T1) are waiting to can flip them. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:45:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:That's... a thing, huh.
That shouldn't be a thing. That's exactly what I thought about that link in your sig...
The sig made me rage cuz I saw a french name then nothing else in french.
WTF???
As for ganking to be on topic, people need to stop loading thier ship with that much isk... |
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