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Cpt Lox
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Posted - 2011.06.09 11:15:00 -
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Recently I've changed a corp, moved to .0 and below. I'm new there and don't know much but... L4 mission lasts 40 mins, maybe an hour and I had 20-40 mil ISK including all kills and loot. Even more if some meta 3/4 items were found.
Now... I tried to rat at belts. The only thing I found was some rat frigs/cruisers in number of 3-4 each. Occasionally there was 2-3 BS worth of 0.8-1.2 mil. It is no comparison to good L4 mission. When I run on-board scanner I found some places, but there is nothing more than mix of few frigs/cruisers/bs there. So I am asking, how to make that BIG money in null I was told of?
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.09 11:30:00 -
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Sov Space, moon mining.
Exploration, 8/10 - 10/10.
Ratting faster. Most lvl4's take me about 20-25 minutes, so I'll assume you aren't running T2, or blitzing. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Sandrestal
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Posted - 2011.06.09 12:50:00 -
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First off learn to chain belt rats and pick sys. with best sec rating (lowest). Second scan for anoms/havens. These are 2 easiest ways.
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Ryan Starwing
Gallente Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.09 18:59:00 -
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Sence sanctums were removed, and plexs are all drones it seems. If it wasnt for the local npc level 4 agents and pirate lp highsec would be far more profitable (I hate highsec though), and moon goo is a stratigic asset used for funding fleets and alliance stuff.
Basically ccp nerffed over half of 0.0 to hell and buffed highsec (Sanctums dont spawn as a result of upgrades till like -0.6). So 0.0 alot more risk with less reward.
PS:Currently on vaction and it is nice, but the dileup connection sucks.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.06.09 19:11:00 -
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Welcome to nullsec 3.0, brought to you by CCP. There are only two reason to go to null now: either you want your name stamped on the systems (providing no further benefits), or you like fleet battles.
If all you want is to make big ISK, stay in empire. ---
Originally by: Sporked EVE IS DYING RUN TO THE HILLS! WE MIGHT HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS MMO! THEY MIGHT SHOOT AT US WHILE WE ARE BUSY HOLDING HANDS AND FROLICKING! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Quality Poaster SEEEEE
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Posted - 2011.06.09 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Welcome to nullsec 3.0, brought to you by CCP. There are only two reason to go to null now: either you want your name stamped on the systems (providing no further benefits), or you like fleet battles.
If all you want is to make big ISK, stay in empire.
As it should be. Gtfo carebears.
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2011.06.09 20:28:00 -
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0.0 is a capital playfield, use a capital ship to make the "BIG" ISK. Sanctums and Havens with a Thanatos will easily beat even the most efficient high sec lvl4 runners with the best ISK/LP by a nice margin. Marauders are good too for 0.0 anomalies and make considerably better ISK/hr in most regions than lvl4s in high sec. Anomalies also can give you an escalation for a 9/10 or 10/10 site, which happens more often then you'd think.
Belt ratting is worse than it used to be because of the warp mechanics they added but if you CHAIN the belts properly in a good truesec system, and it takes some time to chian properly, then it can equal to lvl4s and better than what your average mission runner can do anyway. Also you can get officer and faction spawns that can net you a lot of ISK quickly.
0.0 anomalies and belts are all about "easier" ISK than missions but unless done CORRECTLY not necessarily better than a good ISK/LP rate in high sec.
Exploration is a mixed bag, you can make a lot of ISK with a 8/10, 9/10 or 10/10. Or if your lucky enough to get a complete chain of escalations from an unrated site. Radars are generally good in most space due to decryptors but magnetometrics can be crap or great depending on region (Serpentis being the worst and Blood Raiders/Sansha being the best).
But 0.0 now requires access to the right truesec systems but it's easily made up for by good PI imo, most of the ISK I make is from PI.
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Quality Poaster SEEEEE
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Posted - 2011.06.09 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: TheMahdi But 0.0 now requires access to the right truesec systems but it's easily made up for by good PI imo, most of the ISK I make is from PI.
10/10
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Choppinrockzz
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:19:00 -
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test
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VIP Ares
Minmatar BALKAN EXPRESS HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.06.10 06:45:00 -
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Edited by: VIP Ares on 10/06/2011 06:46:18 - running Sanctums (in upgraded system with decent true security) in proper ship will yield you around 60 M pure ISK/hour (no need to trade, convert LP, salvage , loot or whatever) - now add random faction spawn and escalations to 10/10 (some people managed to get same results in specific lower tier anomalies with specially customized ships) - ratting will make less that that, but still if chained properly and in nice DPS ship, pretty good ISK (possible faction spawn, officer spawn) - officer spawn can net you anywhere from few hundred M isk to few B isk, depending on your luck - unfortunately, you will not be able to kill officers solo anymore - exploration : high end deadspace sites will net you anwyhere from around 100M to 2B depending on your luck with loot - mining: find a nice large Arkonor deposit and Orca boosted HULK will make over 50 M / hour yield - run level 4 missions for pirate agents (LP used to easily convert at 5k isk/lp last tim I did it, not sure how situation is now after recent changes)
Hope it helps...
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NateX
Followers of Yrck
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Posted - 2011.06.10 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: VIP Ares Edited by: VIP Ares on 10/06/2011 06:46:18 - run level 4 missions for pirate agents (LP used to easily convert at 5k isk/lp last tim I did it, not sure how situation is now after recent changes)
Ill pay you 50m for mailing me an item with isk conversion of 5000 isk/lp ;)
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