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Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Hegemonous Pandorum
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:16:00 -
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I first heard of EvE about a year and a half ago. My actual subscription started only in January this year. (Had a few trial accounts beforehand; never got far enough to subscribe, and the initial learning curve was as usual a turn-off, which I eventually overcame) One of my main experiences in EvE though, is that EVERYONE, but literally EVERYONE is older than me. I myself am turning 16 this week, and have yet to meet a person of similar age or younger... Aside from the learning curve and the stereotyping 13-year old internet kid attitude causing many young people to be thrown out early (something which I appreciate; don't get me wrong, I'm mostly wondering and wishfully thinking, not stating anything that I feel is too harsh or the like.), what would cause EvE to not really (again, in my experience) be played by younger players? ("younger" meaning mostly teens or people in puberty in this case :P)
(PS: I love the EvE community as far as I have experienced it ^___^ Free cookies for everyone! xD) "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Khergit Deserters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:30:00 -
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Our corp has about eight 30-ish year olds and two 14-year-olds. The younger guys do great and are some of the stronger players in the corp. Maybe they're just very mature acting for their age. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
55
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:42:00 -
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Many people don't really follow their own taste. We follow what a significant number of people from our own reference group like. That's how marketing works. Tell people that other people like product x more than product y, and everyone suddenly wants x.
When you are younger you are even more looking to be part of the group that is identified as "the cool kids". Eve is spreadsheets with a nice screen-saver ... Call of duty is the cooles thing ever (well at least since the last Call of duty).
Another reason is: eve is pretty boring if you just consider the core game without what the players add to the experience. If you were alone, there would not be much to do in eve.
But there is also a reason why older players may prefer eve over other games.
As you get older, your reaction time gets slower. It's not that you outright suck at FPS, but you noticeably get slower ... and it is frustrating to lose to 8 year old kids. Besides, what do you do in an FPS when you are just awake enough to hold a bottle of beer and watch TV ? Well, nothing ... But you can pretend to play eve while you slowly drift into sleep in fron of your TV.
Hmm, was that an answer to your question ?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2141
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:00:00 -
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Hold on I'll brb, damn kids are on my lawn again "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Jim Era
HARD KNOCKS CORP
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:04:00 -
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sooo...what is your question OP? I thought I knew the feeling of being the youngest player I met, then you posted. I got you beat by about 7 years. |
Stigman Zuwadza
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
50
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:07:00 -
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Not sure if I imagined the following but I'm sure that in one of the dev blogs they mentioned that the average age of those that voted in the recent CSM elections was something like 32, I also think I remember hearing this same age mentioned in a podcast I listened to as well. This may be why you don't encounter many around your age.
Fly safe. o7
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Kirjava
E X C E P T I O N Persona Non Gratis
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:48:00 -
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I'm 21 now, I have been playing Eve as my on again off again hobby since I was 13.
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1645
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:06:00 -
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31... guess I fall inside the norm. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2145
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:20:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:31... guess I fall inside the norm.
Haha, old people "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Domer Pyle
Northwest Industries International Technical Exploration Conglomerate of Hemera
21
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Posted - 2012.09.11 03:36:00 -
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i'm older than OP, too, lol. |
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
31
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:53:00 -
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Kirjava wrote:I'm 21 now, I have been playing Eve as my on again off again hobby since I was 13.
FFS, this makes me feel old (well, aside from general maturity level - that's still in the early 20's :P). At 32, I've now been playing EVE for the majority of my adult life (started in 2004).
Time needs to slow down, dammit! |
Lord Wamphyri
Starside Lost
164
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Posted - 2012.09.11 10:15:00 -
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This is one of the reasons I enjoy this game, the fact that I don't usually feel too old when chatting to people
Started playing when I was 31, and been going for almost 8 years now..
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2012.09.11 14:38:00 -
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I am 55. It sucks... |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
73
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Posted - 2012.09.11 15:58:00 -
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22, I fall pretty much in the middle of the brackets for eve players. |
Telegram Sam
Shoot To Thrill.
367
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:27:00 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:As you get older, your reaction time gets slower. It's not that you outright suck at FPS, but you noticeably get slower ... and it is frustrating to lose to 8 year old kids. Besides, what do you do in an FPS when you are just awake enough to hold a bottle of beer and watch TV ? Well, nothing ... But you can pretend to play eve while you slowly drift into sleep in fron of your TV.
Very true. I like the Assassin's Creed series, but I'm closing on five decades age now. Sometimes I just go, "All this twitcher stuff takes too much energy and hassle. Think I'll just go play with my EVE skills queue." |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Hegemonous Pandorum
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Posted - 2012.09.11 22:26:00 -
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Enjoying a few of these things already... For some reason I'm appearantly really interested in... i don't even know, whatever's written in this topic. xD (I should stop writing these at 0.30 am and start making sense... but how do I describe a strange interest in older people's ages in a video game anyway O_o) "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
45
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Posted - 2012.09.12 12:21:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks...
Me too, but not sure it sucks... |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
660
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:03:00 -
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Zanza Mechonis wrote:I first heard of EvE about a year and a half ago. My actual subscription started only in January this year. (Had a few trial accounts beforehand; never got far enough to subscribe, and the initial learning curve was as usual a turn-off, which I eventually overcame) One of my main experiences in EvE though, is that EVERYONE, but literally EVERYONE is older than me. I myself am turning 16 this week, and have yet to meet a person of similar age or younger... Aside from the learning curve and the stereotyping 13-year old internet kid attitude causing many young people to be thrown out early (something which I appreciate; don't get me wrong, I'm mostly wondering and wishfully thinking, not stating anything that I feel is too harsh or the like.), what would cause EvE to not really (again, in my experience) be played by younger players? ("younger" meaning mostly teens or people in puberty in this case :P)
(PS: I love the EvE community as far as I have experienced it ^___^ Free cookies for everyone! xD)
The average age for EVE players is around 34, IIRC. It takes a certain seasoning as a gamer to find out what's good with it.
PS: by not creating a "look at my massive bazoongas" female avatar you're mentally ahead of many, many players... I play games for fun, evasion and reward.-áEVE is not fun, it sucks as much as reality and dismisses all my ways of playing it.
I think that I should unhook myself from that b*tch... Soon. |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Hegemonous Pandorum
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Posted - 2012.09.12 17:16:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:PS: by not creating a "look at my massive bazoongas" female avatar, you're mentally ahead of many, many older players...
...This makes me legitly lol :'D "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:09:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks...
If you had lived just a few hundred years ago, you probably wouldn't have even made it to 55, most didn't.
With our current way of life and constantly improving medical technology, you've probably got another 50 years to go at least (barring any illnesses you may have, close encounters with buses, or the human species being wiped out by a race of intelligent machines).
Zanza Mechonis wrote:what would cause EvE to not really (again, in my experience) be played by younger players? ("younger" meaning mostly teens or people in puberty in this case :P)
I believe that it's simply because EvE requires more patience and concentration than most younger people today are willing to commit to a game. Everyone is different though, of course, and there are exceptions.
I'm 30 btw. |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2169
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Posted - 2012.09.12 22:14:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks... If you had lived just a few hundred years ago, you probably wouldn't have even made it to 55, most didn't. With our current way of life and constantly improving medical technology, you've probably got another 50 years to go at least
Not unless he lives in the Himalayan mountains or in the mountains around China, hardy mountain people tend to live to past 100. Soft city folk tend to die around 80-90 and those last years are suffering indignities I'd rather not "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2012.09.13 14:42:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks... If you had lived just a few hundred years ago, you probably wouldn't have even made it to 55, most didn't. With our current way of life and constantly improving medical technology, you've probably got another 50 years to go at least Not unless he lives in the Himalayan mountains or in the mountains around China, hardy mountain people tend to live to past 100. Soft city folk tend to die around 80-90 and those last years are suffering indignities I'd rather not
Maybe I'm overly optimistic about our improving medical technology, but I personally like to believe that most of us around today are going to break all records regarding longevity and quality of life.
We'll see. |
Casirio
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
9
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Posted - 2012.09.13 15:46:00 -
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Saede Riordan wrote:22, I fall pretty much in the middle of the brackets for eve players. same |
God's Apples
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.09.15 04:21:00 -
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I'm 14, I beat you all, mwahahahahaha! |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2399
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Posted - 2012.09.15 04:29:00 -
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"I'm sorry son but you're too young and you can't be operating this motor vehicle without a license." "Screw you officer I pilot a Myrmidon class battlecruiser for the Federal Navy!" "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Zanza Mechonis
Vulkan Innovations Hegemonous Pandorum
5
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Posted - 2012.09.15 09:03:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:I'm 14, I beat you all, mwahahahahaha!
Nuuuuuuuuu! ; A ; "On the internet you can be anything you want... It's strange that many people choose to be stupid." |
Obax Bannon
Fidelis Technologies
66
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Posted - 2012.09.15 10:41:00 -
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Well I am 44 and regularly fly with my rl son who has been playing a couple of years and who is now 16 |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
48
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Posted - 2012.09.15 13:24:00 -
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Obax Bannon wrote:Well I am 44 and regularly fly with my rl son who has been playing a couple of years and who is now 16
Please don't tell me you have him set as a friend on Facebook as well... |
Jago Kain
Ramm's RDI Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:29:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Obax Bannon wrote:Well I am 44 and regularly fly with my rl son who has been playing a couple of years and who is now 16 Please don't tell me you have him set as a friend on Facebook as well...
Contrary to popular belief there is nothing at all creepy, sinister or just downright ewwwwww about parents who "hang" (I believe the vernacular is) with their children or friend them on facelessinterwebtwatbook.
What could be more natural than someone still in school associating on a peer to peer basis with someone who is not only old enough to be their parent, but actually is?
When I was a young lad of 17 or 18 the mother of one of my mates regularly used to turn up in the local pub we frequented, always completely co-incidentally by the way of course. What could be more natural than that she join us? It wasn't embarrassing at all and in no way led to hours of stilted conversation and early exits by those smart enough to invent decent excuses to be elsewhere before the trollop downed enough Malibu to start tweaking the hemline on the laughably short skirts she favoured and flashing her Marks and Spencers trollies and substantial lady-garden (think Billy Gibbons in a SARS mask here) to anyone unfortunate enough to be looking in the wrong direction.
Not at all odd. I fail to see the problem. One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings - Diogenes. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.09.15 17:15:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote:Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks... Me too, but not sure it sucks... I'm sure...
Pix Severus wrote:Doc Severide wrote:I am 55. It sucks... If you had lived just a few hundred years ago, you probably wouldn't have even made it to 55, most didn't. With our current way of life and constantly improving medical technology, you've probably got another 50 years to go at least (barring any illnesses you may have... And therein lies the problem. I'm not sick as such but I do have a condition that will shorten my life span. Nothing can be done...
Jago Kain wrote:When I was a young lad of 17 or 18 the mother of one of my mates regularly used to turn up in the local pub... When I was 18 my buddy's mother would accompany us to Rock concerts. She was nice enough to bring her own dope to smoke lol |
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