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M'Tar
Minmatar Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.12 23:47:00 -
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So, we had a corp leave WTF. Sick Tight. Lucian James, not only emptied every isk he could lay his hands on, but also took our moon goo.
This is not acceptable. He claims he is not stealing from the members of WTF, but this is untrue. This isk is used for ship reimbursement, station building, pos fuel, etc.
Lucian, you are no loss. You are a thief. What's more, you tar all your corp members with the same brush. For example.
[23:17:50] nairu krop > we didnt steal anything from the members of wtf [23:18:02] nairu krop > at best u could say it was from the leadership [23:20:50] nairu krop > if it was me, i would have taken every cent
Well, Nairu, fortunately he couldn't take everything, but I get your meaning.
So, you are now a target Sick Tight, we look forward to shooting you.
PS, Lucian, I know you thought a couple of corps would be leaving with you, but, well, it seems they are celebrating your departure instead. I won't repeat what XINT Pakhun said, as its funny, but not really fit for family viewing :-)
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Painpill
Minmatar Open Space Mining and Resource Extraction
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Posted - 2011.06.12 23:55:00 -
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Wrong Section bro...
Also HAHAHAHAaaaHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Heimdallofasgard
Gallente APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:28:00 -
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Oh Lucian you ol' Scallywag. -------
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:31:00 -
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drink drink smoke smoke suck ****s _____
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Spaeder
Gallente Awww Diddums.. Aggravated Assault..
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:49:00 -
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Lucian James for president
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alphastarpilot
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:57:00 -
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HATERS GONNA HATE!!!ANNDDDD UMAD BROOOSKII!
LUCIAN FO PRESIDENTE
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hiphopanonimus
Amarr Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Spaeder Lucian James for president
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Sino Sarn
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Spaeder Lucian James for president
Not empty quotin'
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gtiness
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hatsumi Kobayashi drink drink smoke smoke suck ****s
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Failkhuth
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 00:59:00 -
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Lucian James is single-handedly responsible for the moral degredation of everyone in Pure Blind.
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OriginalGanksta
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:01:00 -
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Look at Controlled Chaos trying to be relevant...ohwait
You jelly bro?
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Indeterminacy
Caldari Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: alphastarpilot HATERS GONNA HATE!!!ANNDDDD UMAD BROOOSKII!
LUCIAN FO PRESIDENTE
Hi I am alphast...I mean, I am 12 and what is this?
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Heimdallofasgard
Gallente APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Indeterminacy
Originally by: alphastarpilot HATERS GONNA HATE!!!ANNDDDD UMAD BROOOSKII!
LUCIAN FO PRESIDENTE
Hi I am alphast...I mean, I am 12 and what is this?
ALPHASTARPILOT! THE ONLY FEMALE FC IN EVE!
<3
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M'Tar
Minmatar Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:06:00 -
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Well, there you go folks. Sick Tight, thieves one and all.
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Sino Sarn
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: M'Tar Well, there you go folks. Sick Tight, thieves one and all.
No offence but, proof or GTFO is the appropriate saying here.
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Lucian James
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:12:00 -
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1. I took about 1/3 total pilots and 1/3 the isk&goo value only.
2. If we end up with less than 1/3rd, WTF will get a refund.
3. Better spent on our exit than a personal Titan for Sage.
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
I am not the thief here, but perhaps you can investigate who is.
I tried to leave without drama.. but you label me a thief in public.. so I will call you out for who you really are: purely two-faced.
-Lucian James CEO of Sick Tight
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:17:00 -
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Your BFF card. Hand it over. |
nairu krop
Amarr Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: nairu krop on 13/06/2011 01:21:53 sick tight is recruiting
SickTight is a 0.0 pvp corporation. we also make "stuff".
join our ingame channel "sicktight" for more info
corp KB stats SickTight Killboard
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Spaeder
Gallente Awww Diddums.. Aggravated Assault..
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: nairu krop Edited by: nairu krop on 13/06/2011 01:21:53 sick tight is recruiting
SickTight is a 0.0 pvp corporation. we also make "stuff".
join our ingame channel "sicktight" for more info
corp KB stats SickTight Killboard
WTB "Stuff"
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Ocih
Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Spaeder
Originally by: nairu krop Edited by: nairu krop on 13/06/2011 01:21:53 sick tight is recruiting
SickTight is a 0.0 pvp corporation. we also make "stuff".
join our ingame channel "sicktight" for more info
corp KB stats SickTight Killboard
WTB "Stuff"
I hear the price of "stuff" is skyrocketing. its a boon. |
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gtiness
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:29:00 -
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WTS: Lots, and Lots of Stuff.
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Sage Eveo
Gallente Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian James 1. I took about 1/3 total pilots and 1/3 the isk&goo value only.
2. If we end up with less than 1/3rd, WTF will get a refund.
3. Better spent on our exit than a personal Titan for Sage.
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
Yay, I can buy myself 2 titans now I don't need to get you one
You're quite the bull**** artist sir. WTF alliance accountancy is completely transparent.
Anywho, the North is rejoicing up here. Good luck BRICK, you're going to need it.
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alphastarpilot
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:34:00 -
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WHat North? Your rejoicing that you have more systems to sit in Pos's watching Evj0kes and pets to take you sov.
Hide yo kids Hide yo wives and HIDE YO HUSBANDS
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OriginalGanksta
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sage Eveo
Originally by: Lucian James 1. I took about 1/3 total pilots and 1/3 the isk&goo value only.
2. If we end up with less than 1/3rd, WTF will get a refund.
3. Better spent on our exit than a personal Titan for Sage.
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
Yay, I can buy myself 2 titans now I don't need to get you one
You're quite the bull**** artist sir. WTF alliance accountancy is completely transparent.
Anywho, the North is rejoicing up here. Good luck BRICK, you're going to need it.
Need to work on your spin technique. 2/10
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Sage Eveo
Gallente Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sage Eveo on 13/06/2011 01:36:51
Originally by: alphastarpilot WHat North? Your rejoicing that you have more systems to sit in Pos's watching Evj0kes and pets to take you sov.
Hide yo kids Hide yo wives and HIDE YO HUSBANDS
Isn't it past your bed time ?
Trojan Trolls [TROLL] // Controlled Chaos <TROLL> |
alphastarpilot
Minmatar Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:38:00 -
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It's definatly past yours aussie boy.
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Heimdallofasgard
Gallente APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:40:00 -
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Linkage
Sick tight... some good pilots, I always envied this guys bot hunting abilities^^^
Trolls? Also some good pilots/fcs. Shame you guys couldn't get along. -------
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M'Tar
Minmatar Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian James
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
No mate, that's an alliance scheme, voiced in the alliance meeting not 24 hours ago, when you were present. We plan on building Titans for alliance leaders based on moon availability, for alliance use. Pretty open, and not 'skimming' any more than using alliance funds to build more stations.
Originally by: Lucian James
I am not the thief here, but perhaps you can investigate who is.
I tried to leave without drama.. but you label me a thief in public.. so I will call you out for who you really are: purely two-faced.
-Lucian James CEO of Sick Tight
I suggest you look up the dictionay term, 'thief'. I'll paraphrase, Someone who takes property without permission with no intention of returning it. That's you.
As for drama, you created that all on your own. Why else be in an alliance meeting not 24 hours ago, being positive etc, then steal **** and run? Oh, wait, you had already run at that point, you just needed to steal ****. Just an fyi, that's also you being 2 faced.
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Stewieni
Caldari Unknown Soldiers
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Posted - 2011.06.13 02:57:00 -
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o/ hiphopanonimus
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hiphopanonimus
Amarr Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:01:00 -
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Edited by: hiphopanonimus on 13/06/2011 03:01:21 \0/ stewieni
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Dark 0verlord
Minmatar Greater Order Of Destruction Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:43:00 -
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Ah Lucian James. Besides Uncle Bao's frig fests, His fleets where my favorite fleets to be in. Stoned/drunk is the only way to play! Never stop smoking dude.
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gtiness
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dark 0verlord Ah Lucian James. Besides Uncle Bao's frig fests, His fleets where my favorite fleets to be in. Stoned/drunk is the only way to play! Never stop smoking dude.
This man speaks pure unadulterated truth.
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Vasentic
Gallente Lyonesse. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 05:36:00 -
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Thanks to Lucian James Vasentic's heart grew three sizes this day.
<3 Friday Night Lights <3
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Firid Soulbane
Minmatar Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 05:47:00 -
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I like the fact that you raged about my pricing was too high and that i should give some BFF luvin. Then you turn around and steal 10 bn from your BFF bros without blinking an eye.
I actually thought you were an allright guy, just a bit caught up by your emotions now and then.
Anyhow, i hope you will enjoy your new life in Brick.
Be good.
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Sovox
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.13 06:28:00 -
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Man you WTF guys are so lucky! I am not even joking...
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Cognac
Minmatar MAFIA P I R A T E S
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Posted - 2011.06.13 07:04:00 -
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funniest troll ever... evaarrrr
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g0ldfinger07
Amarr Nexus.6 S E D I T I O N
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Posted - 2011.06.13 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Firid Soulbane I like the fact that you raged about my pricing was too high and that i should give some BFF luvin. Then you turn around and steal 10 bn from your BFF bros without blinking an eye.
I actually thought you were an allright guy, just a bit caught up by your emotions now and then.
Anyhow, i hope you will enjoy your new life in Brick.
Be good.
Lol you guys are bickering over 10 billion With all the Fc'n and constant fun lucian james gave everyone in the north you should of gave him that outta love for all he did for wtf.
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Lovelocke
Caldari Enlightened Industries SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.13 09:17:00 -
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It has been fun flying with Lucian, Nairu and the other Sick Tight FC's. It's a real shame you're moving to Brick, a neut to us. As I've already said good luck down there with them. CEO Enlightened Industries |
ovenproofjet
Caldari Therapy.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Heimdallofasgard
Originally by: Indeterminacy
Originally by: alphastarpilot HATERS GONNA HATE!!!ANNDDDD UMAD BROOOSKII!
LUCIAN FO PRESIDENTE
Hi I am alphast...I mean, I am 12 and what is this?
ALPHASTARPILOT! THE ONLY FEMALE FC IN EVE!
<3
... oh wait
Anita FC is the only female FC in Eve...
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Mynas Atoch
Caldari Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.13 09:56:00 -
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Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
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Sa'Shena
Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2011.06.13 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
This goon does have a point.
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SunburnedFrog
Caldari SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs The Council.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 11:14:00 -
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ive been laughing my butt off whilst reading this thread....
its funny because with all the carebearing you gheys do and your crying over 10bn???
even WIfail didnt cry when i stole 50bn from them .. suck it up , take it on the chin . think of all that tech you have acess to ..
on a side note i would like to point out lucian deserves that isk 10 fold, personally i think hes a pr1ck but he has dedicated alot of time to organise fun shizz for many people ..
[23:17:50] M'Tar > Sunburned your a F**king **** of a **** ****** so ***** you ***** and **** *&*((^^*(** your mother ***^&&(**
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Lucian James
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 13:01:00 -
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What amazes me is how I was able to keep this secret from alliance leadership for nearly 4 days.. with grunts and leadership of other corps knowing.. with alphastar forwarding corp mails and even while another corp was trying to get into Brick.
Usually anything that old floating around would be tossed up in my face like so much... oh ccp will prolly edit that part :p Goes to show you how little faith ppl have in existing WTF leadership.
Thanks for keeping that to yourselves as asked, gentlemen.
-Lucian James
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Lucian James
Gallente Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lucian James on 13/06/2011 13:06:13
Originally by: Mynas Atoch Its like you have not been watching the death of Morsus Mihi nor the impersonation of a piece of wet tissue paper by Razor. With the current game mechanics, there is only one measure of an alliance's power and survivability. The number of Titans fielded. Every isk you had should have been going into putting an alt of your leaders in as many Titans as you could lay your hands on.
This should have been the stated strategic goal of your alliance and all spare nationalized income bent towards it. Its attitudes like yours that killed the NC and had them crying about the unfairness of PL and the DRF bringing so many supercaps.
Actually it's the greed of those that sat on endless moons and kept that money to themselves. For that and other reasons, when WTF was formed it was agreed that moon goo would NEVER goto supercaps.. until someone came along that wanted one.. it's not like we had the money to have built even one thus far let alone the multiple supers it'd take to win that war, Mynas :p
You dirty old Scot *smooch* mmm tastes like sheepsex! j/k I <3 you Mynas!
-Lucy
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:33:00 -
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Moved from CAOD.
Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us |
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Singeabooty Raj
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:54:00 -
[46]
Welcome,
The Fail here is in trusting somebody called "Lucian James".
This would not have happened if it was "James Lucian" that was trusted.
See, it's simple to get your head around really.
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Imperian
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.06.13 15:59:00 -
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I would give Lucian a free titan to leave my alliance Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Buu Beys
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: g0ldfinger07 Lol you guys are bickering over 10 billion With all the Fc'n and constant fun lucian james gave everyone in the north you should of gave him that outta love for all he did for wtf.
The truth is spoken right here...
Originally by: SunburnedFrog ...its funny because with all the carebearing you gheys do and your crying over 10bn???...
on a side note i would like to point out lucian deserves that isk 10 fold, ...he has dedicated alot of time to organise fun shizz for many people ..
...and again here.
Really? Going "public" with a tearshed like this over such an insignificant amount of isk? Really, get a grip.
Lucian is more than just a CEO, alliance director or FC. The man has bent over backwards for his corp, alliance, and the whole NC to actually bring "content" to people. His fleets and roams weren't just your average roams. They were fun on a scale not really seen with any other FC. Anyone that's been in the NC and has flown with him will attest to that. Look at any fleet that started up in Tribute in the last couple of months. People were begging and screaming to get people in fleets. Lucian posted a fleet, and immediately people were coming out of the woodwork to join in. That right there speaks volumes.
He's proven his loyalty all around. However, his loyalty first and foremost is to his own corp and its members above his own interests. He could have cleaned out all the WTF coffers and corp hangars if he chose to. Instead, he took what he considered to be Sick Tight's fair share (which he would have been denied had he asked) and nothing more. And that amount really is a small "severance" and to cover the costs of the move.
And really, for all the tech moons WTF have (until PL / DRF / NC. come take them), it shouldn't take very long for WTF to "bounce back" from this.
So get a grip.
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Final8ty
Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:56:06 Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:55:07 Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 17:54:50 The only thing people need to get a grip on is no one cares about the 10 bill, 10 bill is nothing you know it we know it but some people still cant work it out & it seems that some people have no comprehension of predicables of the matter.
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Lt banaan
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 17:59:00 -
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In my personal opinion i regret the way Lucian left, he was a good fc, he did alot for the alliance no doubt there, and he arranged ****loads of fleets wich were entertaining but not fcing at his best due to smoking that much pot as he seems to do :D
Anyway gonna miss Nairu the most actualy , had the most fun in his fleets. Good luck for brick squad and cu ingame
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian James 1. I took about 1/3 total pilots and 1/3 the isk&goo value only.
2. If we end up with less than 1/3rd, WTF will get a refund.
3. Better spent on our exit than a personal Titan for Sage.
4. I have had numerous ppl of high level corp leadership report to me that Sage has been skimming isk for a while now.. hell.. I ****ed off half my old corp by not taking their word for it and we split.. That and Sage offered to skim isk for me if we got a couple new tech moons to build me an erebus.
I am not the thief here, but perhaps you can investigate who is.
I tried to leave without drama.. but you label me a thief in public.. so I will call you out for who you really are: purely two-faced.
-Lucian James CEO of Sick Tight
QFT here. The IEEE brands the above statement as fully of truthyness. Having an extremely high quotient of truth. I wonder if there needs to be an investigation into those laying claim? --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Me Lub'YeeLongTiem
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Me Lub''YeeLongTiem on 13/06/2011 18:27:23 Posting to Confirm that Lucian James is Pro ninja.
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M'Tar
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
QFT here. The IEEE brands the above statement as fully of truthyness. Having an extremely high quotient of truth. I wonder if there needs to be an investigation into those laying claim?
lol, ok, for the mentally challenged.
1. He took all the isk available to him, and all the moon goo he could get. Its not 1/3rd, its not all. We will survive, indeed a common comment is "It was worth 10 bill to get shot of him. Did not take 1/3 of our pilots. He was trying to, but most declined.
2. Well, I guess he needs a chance to prove this.
3. If he had jut left, like most corps leave most alliances, I'm sure he would have had no problems, except he wouldn't have had an 'excuse' to steal. We have never hindered anyone leaving.
4. Utter bull****. Our alliance keeps open accounts in a google spreadsheet. It's kinda hard to skim when everyone else can see what's happening. It is true that this has happened under other alliances, but then they are not open about where the isk goes.
So, just ask anyone who was at the alliance meeting, or hey, what the hell, read some of his contradictory posts.
The facts, as seen by someone who is not trying to pretend to be someone else and was there (like coming into alliance chat last night Lucian), are that Lucian pre planned a needless evac, and stole isk and goo.
That's what annoys most of us. He could have been honest, he chose not to be, and created drama from nothing.
He is basically just upset and throwing a tantrum as he was kicked as alliance combat commander.
He was respected (if not for his 'diplomatic' skills) as someone who brought some fun into fleets and a good public speaker. Now he is just a thief.
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Xorth Adimus
Caldari Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:53:00 -
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For these and many other reasons (in particular joining the BFF NC fail squad) I and many others left Troll's company a long time ago, best decision ever!
Sad to see not much has changed for my old brothers in arms.
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BusterHighman
Caldari Sick Tight
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:07:00 -
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It's mildly adorable how quickly WTF seems to have forgotten which corp(s) sunk a metric buttload of isk and time into building a badass NC alliance while others felt it necessary to keep to themselves and not work with the rest of the alliance during fleets.
Here's some cheese to go with your whine, bros.
Bai! [url=http://eve-wtf.com/killboard?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=41165] [/url] |
Man Fantastic
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: M'Tar
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
1. He took all the isk available to him, and all the moon goo he could get. Its not 1/3rd, its not all. We will survive, indeed a common comment is "It was worth 10 bill to get shot of him. Did not take 1/3 of our pilots. He was trying to, but most declined.
if 10B ISK was more than 1/3 of what WTF had and your alliance leader didn't skim, that's pretty pathetic considering how many tec moons the pure blind alliances had.
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nairu krop
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:16:00 -
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i remember giving 2 bil worth of ships to start the alliance reimbursment, and another bil for the startup of the program when wtf first started.
and yet when i fc a fleets of 60+ dudes using a vagabond, i get zero reimbursment from the alliance when it dies.
there was zero benefit for me to remain in the alliance.
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Final8ty
Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:54:00 -
[58]
Well thank god this is just a game because if people thought not liking an alliance,corporation is justification for stealing you would find life real hard.
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Satallius
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Posted - 2011.06.13 19:59:00 -
[59]
How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
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Final8ty
Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 20:10:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Satallius How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
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Satallius
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Posted - 2011.06.13 20:35:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Err no. Theft implies taking something that doesn't belong to you. Since they were in the alliance, and help put that ISK there, ie: The alliance ISK ie: belonging in part to them, they were entitled to their fair share, which, if the story in this thread is accurate, is all he took.
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Final8ty
Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:14:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Final8ty on 13/06/2011 21:16:15
Originally by: Satallius
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Err no. Theft implies taking something that doesn't belong to you. Since they were in the alliance, and help put that ISK there, ie: The alliance ISK ie: belonging in part to them, they were entitled to their fair share, which, if the story in this thread is accurate, is all he took.
He was not the alliance so the ISK did not belong to him & he did not take part of it he took all of what was in the wallet & if there was more then he would of took more, he was also claiming to be taking isk on the behalf of others in support which have then sent emails saying that they are not doing anything of the sort.
If everything is how you make out then there would be no need in the way he went about it all.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Thank goodness this isn't the 'real' world.
Besides, I'm willing to bet if Lucien had politely asked before taking there would have been a rather swift removal of roles before telling him to go get stuffed.
Now..where are my investigation papers... This kind of thing never tends to end well, but it would seem to be warranted. (Ratzen Fratzen Concord paperwork.) --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Final8ty
Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:24:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Zedrik Cayne
Originally by: Final8ty
Originally by: Satallius How is this even a theft? So he leeft an alliance and took corps with him, and took ISK equal to their fair share... His and the corps he took, they contributed to alliance, yes, and thus they should be entitled to their fair share of the money. Calling it a theft is ridiculous.
Its theft because he did it without permission & that fact you don't know what the definition of theft is is ridiculous & if he truly thought he was entitled then he would of asked first.
You can all keep making excuses for justification all you want but it would never wash in the real world.
Thank goodness this isn't the 'real' world.
Besides, I'm willing to bet if Lucien had politely asked before taking there would have been a rather swift removal of roles before telling him to go get stuffed.
Now..where are my investigation papers... This kind of thing never tends to end well, but it would seem to be warranted. (Ratzen Fratzen Concord paperwork.)
And that is the best reason yet & the only plausible justification instead of well he deserved it anyway so anything goes mentally that is only fitting for a game.
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M'Tar
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.13 22:05:00 -
[65]
If he had asked, and been refused, kicked, whatever, it would be a different story.
If you want to compare how much isk has been given by who, we'll be here forever, I have given ships, pos's, fuel, time to make people ships at cost etc as well, does that mean I can grab as much as I can and run? No.
It all boils down to this. He pre-planned an exit while telling us he was with us. He stole all the isk and goo he could lay his hands on. He is unhappy he has been called out on it publicly, and is compounding it all by trying to justify it, along with the help of alts and outright lies like he tried in alliance chat the other night before he was called out on it.
Look, this thread is not for you, it's for those of us who dislike people who betray our trust. So, please just go back to patting yourself on the back and planning your next theft.
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Owen Drakkar
Bad...Karma
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Posted - 2011.06.13 22:47:00 -
[66]
WTF?
/me passes to the left.
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Borun Tal
Minmatar Just Abide
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:04:00 -
[67]
And?
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Xenuria
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.14 03:04:00 -
[68]
I wanna be in a big alliance with moon goo and POS and outposts and fleet wars...
Nobody lets me play with them.... "Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.06.14 05:12:00 -
[69]
Oh well...Lucian has asked that things be put on hold until...a future time..
NO MORE INVESTIGATIONS FOR YOU! (Er...yet) --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Bund
Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.06.14 08:35:00 -
[70]
Look at all those old buds in here :D
0/ all
Lucian, buy me some plexes will you?
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Chib
Drunken Wookies BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:34:00 -
[71]
i think he wanted to join PL but 13B is simply not enough
end of the day any publicity is good publicity amirite
GL WTF, brick has no desire to be involved in your interpolitik
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Braygo Khallazar
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Posted - 2011.06.14 12:26:00 -
[72]
All I say is - TROJAN TROLLS TO GSF!
Big shame Lucian done this, after the effort he put in, seemed like a Decent bloke.
Props to MEW Ice,PK,Sage & all the TROLL BROSEFS.
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Dan Brimstone
Order of Dendera Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.14 12:47:00 -
[73]
Lucian and I may not get along, but anyone who steals from WTF is a friend of mine. <3 you guys!
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Mickey Simon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2011.06.14 13:39:00 -
[74]
If Controlled Chaos were actually an alliance of any note, this thread might be interesting. However, it looks like they can afford two titans, but are still lacking in the good-at-eve department :(((((
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Braygo Khallazar
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:37:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Braygo Khallazar on 14/06/2011 15:39:43
Originally by: Mickey Simon If Controlled Chaos were actually an alliance of any note, this thread might be interesting. However, it looks like they can afford two titans, but are still lacking in the good-at-eve department :(((((
Proper rage
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knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:29:00 -
[76]
Good luck to my former wtf brosefs. Always thought lucians was an ok guy. Pretty dumb thing to do for such a small amount of isk.
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I likegirls
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:43:00 -
[77]
EVE-O Forums needs a like button.
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Lucian James
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 14:08:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Bund Look at all those old buds in here :D
0/ all
Lucian, buy me some plexes will you?
FUSION took YOU in?! They're really scrapin the bottom of that 100yo barrel..
:p
Now that we're neighbors I'm coming to attack you with those augmented drones! Muah. (inside joke)
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Lucian James
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 14:56:00 -
[79]
To dispell a lot of lies from the bitter sources.. Here's what was liquid(or near-liquid) and what I took:
9.6bn Holding Corp Isk-Non Master Wallets 0.85bn Holding Corp Isk-Master Wallet 5.0bn Holding Corp Isk withdrawn before I got to it ~5.6bn in Logis (40 logis @ 140mil ea) ~2.7bn Jump Fuel ~3.0bn Tech (<28k x 106k per unit) ~0.55bn Dyspro (33.8k units @ ~16.3k each) ~ .50bn (67.6k units @ 7.4k each [i could be off]) 5.0bn TROLL debt to WTF 19.5bn RESERVE account ~2.0bn Minerals (1-3bn I unstuck & contracted to WTF) ================================= 54.3bn total worth that all corps/pilots contributed to
What I took: 9.6bn non-master wallets (not mucking bill autopay) ~3.0bn Tech (<28k x 106k per unit) ~0.55bn Dyspro (33.8k units @ ~16.3k each) ~1.4bn Jump Fuel ================================== 14.55bn in assets/cash divested = 26.8%
2 of the 9 real corps in WTF have left thus far = 22.2%
If no other corps leave, a ~2.5bn refund is due and will be sent to Gaizzier (neutral party and 100% trustworthy). These things have yet to play out.
By all means, keep referring to me as a thief. It get met lots of blue offerings from other x-NC entities and congrats from pirates.. but it simply is not true.
Thieves wipe you out; I divested our interests in as fair a manner as possible without being told 'NO', as I am sure I would have been, as I would not have done this had I thought otherwise... duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I went so far as to inform WTF about it in a very nice, non-drama, loving, departing alliance evemail.. but half a dozen or so WTF leaders turned it into something as ugly as they've been accused of for a very long time now.
Incidently, most of these guys used to trust me with several hundred billion in cap component bpos, their supercap manufacturing POS's and all of the supers that poured out. I was the CEO of that corp to keep production teams from being able to steal from eachother.. the only one that could steal from them was me.. and not one damn thing was ever touched (minus a week of reimbursed pos fuel :p). They know it's disingenuous to call me a thief.
The only thing I've ever stolen in this game was cap bpo's from x-BOBits that were stealing out corps BS BPOs, their pos's and minerals to build my first Nyx.
When my old corp split off from me, we evenly distributed our assets to the point we were agreed & happy in the end.
I have also made numerous supercap sales as the middle man (take that, Chirba!).
How many tens or hundreds of billions have my fleets entrusted with me for cap raffles?
That's what this was.. as you see.. I'm the originator of WTF.. I brought everyone together to exit MH, placed everyone in their original leadership positions and placed myself in a secondary position because I thought I could trust those I was flying with. Although that was mostly true, not completely which lead me to a point where I had zero confidence in the current state.
WTF was all of ours tho, truly, so I took what was fair (which might yet turn into less-than-fair) and departed for a new world. You have absolutely no right to complain or label me a thief.. as amusing as it's been.
Almost everyone that knows me knows I've never lied (you dont get to play the 'you were two-faced the weekend you left' ...DUHHHHH you Palintard) about business in this game. They know I'm completely trustworthy and reliable with their isk, ships & transactions.. and even their Eve futures.
I'm off to provide better game content to everyone that will follow me than dying in Pure Blind while building a leader a titan and fighting alongside Goons (if PB is gonna die.. save money and GTFO). It's not just honesty, part of why WTF was left with the proper % was so they could also fund their own GTFO. I wouldn't burden anyone with being trapped in Pure Blind or Fade at this point!
Get over yourselves..
-Lucian James / Keef Drow
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M'Tar
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.15 17:42:00 -
[80]
Yup, Zebra left to follow you, except they went without the drama you created. We said goodbye, and wished them luck.
You can try and justify your actions as much as you want. You took, without consent, discussion or anyone's knowledge, stuff that was not yours to take. You took all you had access to. Thank god it's partitioned so you couldn't take everything, no doubt you would twist some form of justification for that too.
As I already said, had you simply been open about it, I for one would have agreed to help finance your move. There would have been no hard feelings. You could have brought it up in the alliance meeting. Instead, you let your over inflated ego run away, yet again.
This was entirely your doing Lucian. You chose to create the drama, you chose to steal. Your choices Lucian, none of them forced on you.
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Official WTF Forum Troll. |
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Lucian James
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 18:36:00 -
[81]
Originally by: M'Tar You took all you had access to. Thank god it's partitioned so you couldn't take everything, no doubt you would twist some form of justification for that too.
As I already said, had you simply been open about it, I for one would have agreed to help finance your move.
This was entirely your doing Lucian.
Who are you anyway? One day you sound like Sage, the next you don't :p
Had I taken everything I had access to I'd have wound up with over 20bn.
I highly doubt anyone believes that the guy who wants the alliance to spend 40bn+ to buy him a titan right before all of Pure Blind falls and that tech goo disappears.. would let me walk out with our fair share of current isk.
After all, it's directors from other corps that have come to me complaining about your two-faced attitude.. and both them and your x corpies that have concerns you skim off both TROLLs and WTF.. and that you've been skimming your corp for years, Sage Eveo.
You HAVE to call me a THIEF.. and that I stole EVERYTHING because it makes the current WTF members less likely to want to leave you.. fact is I have full api keys to prove your statements are tripe and will provide them to any relevent party once this all comes to a close.
Yes, it was entirely my doing. I call 'em like I see 'em. If you dont want me to do these things to you (anyone), then don't get all two-facey and backstab me, Mr. OhSoInnocent.
As it was stated by several here that I'm both well worth what was divested and that it was fair, I must be honest and say that all of the positive work that Sage put into WTF over the last year is very deserving of a titan (also?), assuming nothing was skimmed, but that's not how it was presented (hey we're out of titans now and the euro time zone is uber and therefore Sage gets one.. esp cuz Sage can and will play in all timezones!! [what a pile]).. and the timing is just terrible.
And you think I have issues.
Get... over... yourself.
-Lucian
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M'Tar
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:01:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Lucian James
I highly doubt anyone believes that the guy who wants the alliance to spend 40bn+ to buy him a titan right before all of Pure Blind falls and that tech goo disappears.. would let me walk out with our fair share of current isk.
Did you object in the alliance meeting when I raised buying alliance leaders Titans? No you didn't.
Originally by: Lucian James
If you dont want me to do these things to you (anyone), then don't get all two-facey and backstab me, Mr. OhSoInnocent.
lol, the only one being two faced is you. You preplanned an exit, and then stole isk and goo. You only get to play justified if you had asked and been refused, which btw, you did not.
Originally by: Lucian James
And you think I have issues.
Get... over... yourself.
-Lucian
Might want to take your own advice there pal.
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Official WTF Forum Troll. |
Indeterminacy
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.16 00:03:00 -
[83]
o/
Been playing Minecraft for a couple of weeks. Have I missed anything?
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.16 03:54:00 -
[84]
Originally by: M'Tar
Originally by: Lucian James
I highly doubt anyone believes that the guy who wants the alliance to spend 40bn+ to buy him a titan right before all of Pure Blind falls and that tech goo disappears.. would let me walk out with our fair share of current isk.
Did you object in the alliance meeting when I raised buying alliance leaders Titans? No you didn't.
Originally by: Lucian James
If you dont want me to do these things to you (anyone), then don't get all two-facey and backstab me, Mr. OhSoInnocent.
lol, the only one being two faced is you. You preplanned an exit, and then stole isk and goo. You only get to play justified if you had asked and been refused, which btw, you did not.
Originally by: Lucian James
And you think I have issues.
Get... over... yourself.
-Lucian
Might want to take your own advice there pal.
Except that Lucian has given a strong statement indicating that he, in fact, did NOT take all ISK/assets that he had access to, which you accused him of. He gave very specific figures to assets and ISK that he had access to, which should be relatively easy for you to refute with a little accounting.
The fact of the matter is that from what little time I spent in WTF, Lucian James has been nothing less than an upstanding leader, and a fun guy to fly under. True, this may merely be the charismatic facade to a psychopathic individual - but I personally believe that he ultimately had the best interest of us grunts in mind. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Jita Von Trade
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Posted - 2011.06.16 09:22:00 -
[85]
BOYS BOYS BOYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
It's a game.
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Lucian James
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.16 13:58:00 -
[86]
Pakhun > f*****
I am amused at how many times XINT's CEO and one of WTF's XO's would call me the derogatory F vowel-consonant-consonant-vowel-consonant word in alliance chat word cuz I ticked him off and I'm gay...
...if I were black and ticked him off like that would he be calling me the derogatory N vowel-consonant-consonant-vowel-consonant word in alliance chat?
It's not like I'm gonna file a petition.. you're welcome to violate the EULA and be a homophobe all you want.. I am more amused at your true colors than offended.
LOL and the xo's have the nerve to evemail me last night saying ZEBRA didn't count as a corp so they want a greater refund. LOL Like any of you even count as people at this point!
-Lucian James Homo FC :p
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knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:07:00 -
[87]
I thought the whole gay thing was an act to get reactions out of people
Not that I have issue with it either way ;)
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Lucian's Jimmy
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:32:00 -
[88]
posting in support of Lucian
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Woodywilson
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Posted - 2011.06.16 20:06:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Indeterminacy o/
Been playing Minecraft for a couple of weeks. Have I missed anything?
I'm un-subbed but am still posting in the forums. epic winsauce. I'll resub if lucian ever posts that pic of his woody again
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glitterbomb
Caldari D00M.
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:22:00 -
[90]
Lucian james is a hero. He has liberated himself and his corp from the Nc, best for luck brosef. i hope you and your corp will be happy not having to deal with ******s whoop whoop. also give me a bill
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I likegirls
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.06.18 23:32:00 -
[91]
Originally by: glitterbomb Lucian james is a hero. He has liberated himself and his corp from the Nc, best for luck brosef. i hope you and your corp will be happy not having to deal with ******s whoop whoop. also give me a bill
Liberated from the NC? There is no NC!
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Darius III
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 08:23:00 -
[92]
Lucian James is the ******* man. He took a rightful share for his guys when he left. If you stupid ***** hadnt ****** yourselves out of pretty much ******* everything and been such stupid ***** then they wouldnt have left your ****** ******* ******* ***** anyway. My advice is to go and **** yourself in the *** with a ******* huge ******* **** till your *** is red and raw. Hows about a nice ******* cup of shut the **** up you ******* *****.
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Lucian James
Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 18:48:00 -
[93]
2.5bn returned to Gaizzier of WTF-S.R.
That completes this divestiture.
Should you experience any difficulties in leaving the area, please contact me for assistance.
It's been awesome flying with everyone in WTF except for the Spin Doctors; don't believe what they tell you to save their skins.
Thanks goes out to everyone on here who supported me, my pilots.. and understood what we were really doing. It's good to know I have favorable majority opinion.
WTFers.. don't take it personally.. a handful of ppl ruined the alliance I put together and I wanted out. Had I thought any other options would work, I'd have chosen them. Just like leaving MH tho.. didn't want drama.. or using game mechanics to ruin stuff.. y'all can keep the alliance.. we're going off for better things.
Much love & respect to those that earned it,
Lucian James / Keef Drow
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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 19:30:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Darius III Lucian James is the ******* man. He took a rightful share for his guys when he left. If you stupid ***** hadnt ****** yourselves out of pretty much ******* everything and been such stupid ***** then they wouldnt have left your ****** ******* ******* ***** anyway. My advice is to go and **** yourself in the *** with a ******* huge ******* **** till your *** is red and raw. Hows about a nice ******* cup of shut the **** up you ******* *****.
Ohh, is this one of those mad libs? Where the stars are blanks we have to fill in? :D
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Ender Fal
Element 115.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 02:24:00 -
[95]
I approve of this service.
Keef always making life interesting
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