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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.13 02:10:00 -
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Good evening,
Straight to the point, I am currently in need of a 20 Billion isk loan in order to get a mining operation off the ground immediately in 0.0 space. The 20 Billion isk loan will be used to purchase 8 Hulk Miners off the Character Bazzar to allow instant operations instead of waiting 3-4 months Per character. If everything goes according to plan, the 20 Billion isk loan would be for the duration of no more than 3 months time. Unfortunately I do not have any collateral to meet the Price of the loan but I have attached a spreadsheet that includes my schedule and profit outlooks.
I understand that 20 Billion isk is a good sum of money and will not be expecting the income to all come from one source. I will accept partial loans from multiple investors.
Spreadsheet - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31630884/mining.xlsx
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Celi Annor
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Posted - 2011.06.13 02:40:00 -
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First in a fail thread
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.06.13 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Good evening,
Straight to the point, I am currently in need of a 20 Billion isk loan in order to get a mining operation off the ground immediately in 0.0 space. The 20 Billion isk loan will be used to purchase 8 Hulk Miners off the Character Bazzar to allow instant operations instead of waiting 3-4 months Per character. If everything goes according to plan, the 20 Billion isk loan would be for the duration of no more than 3 months time. Unfortunately I do not have any collateral to meet the Price of the loan but I have attached a spreadsheet that includes my schedule and profit outlooks.
I understand that 20 Billion isk is a good sum of money and will not be expecting the income to all come from one source. I will accept partial loans from multiple investors.
Spreadsheet - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31630884/mining.xlsx
Why would anyone trust you with 20 GISK?
Link to spreadsheet as imported to Google Documents. [Commentary withheld.]
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Ma Hensu
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:10:00 -
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i always wanted to be an "instant billionaire"....can i manage the funds?
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The Illustrious Juden
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond
Link to spreadsheet as imported to Google Documents. [Commentary withheld.]
I guess it's good to have a schedule.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.13 03:35:00 -
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Just in, new investment will now require schedule of IPO/bond manager to ensure that they're putting enough work into it.
Warning: This person is a scammer and should not be trusted.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.06.13 13:57:00 -
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so, being a noob to the character bazaar...
how much does a fully skilled hulk pilot go for nowadays?
also, I'd be more liable to consider OP an RMT/botter than scammer (although since this is EVE, scammer is a given anyway).
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Phey Onat
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Good evening,
Straight to the point, I am currently in need of a 20 Billion isk loan in order to get a mining operation ...
You didn't have to post anything after that. Though the 0.0 was a nice touch.
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:55:00 -
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@OP: Are you aware that botting is a violation of the EULA?
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Roguehalo
Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:08:00 -
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I stopped reading after I saw the name
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw on 14/06/2011 14:09:33
Originally by: Velicitia so, being a noob to the character bazaar...
how much does a fully skilled hulk pilot go for nowadays?
also, I'd be more liable to consider OP an RMT/botter than scammer (although since this is EVE, scammer is a given anyway).
A Hulk pilot with ABC crystals normally runs about 2 to 2.5B/character. I'm looking to get about 8 to 9 hulk pilots. Not an RMT or botter, just a very impatient multiboxer wanting to make some iskies easy mode via miners.
Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane @OP: Are you aware that botting is a violation of the EULA?
As said above, not botting, one hell of a multiboxer.
pic related current setup: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=flby1s&s=7
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:38:00 -
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Wow. Just... wow.
Your schedule is rather.. uh... idealistic.
IMO, no game is worth 50+ hours a week. Thats a JOB. If you are that desperate for ISK, get a part time job, and spend some of the money on GTC sales. Or, if you don't want a part time job, you can also start a station trader up, and build up a nice income quickly in Jita. Or you can train a hauler alt, and move cargo between regions. Or you can build a industrialist, and make ISK that way.
multi-boxing 8 characters is a bit extreme, IMO. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zagam Wow. Just... wow.
Your schedule is rather.. uh... idealistic.
IMO, no game is worth 50+ hours a week. Thats a JOB. If you are that desperate for ISK, get a part time job, and spend some of the money on GTC sales. Or, if you don't want a part time job, you can also start a station trader up, and build up a nice income quickly in Jita. Or you can train a hauler alt, and move cargo between regions. Or you can build a industrialist, and make ISK that way.
multi-boxing 8 characters is a bit extreme, IMO.
Extremely fun though, try multiboxing 5 mission runners.
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:54:00 -
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sounds legit
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:06:00 -
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If you are going to be ingame 50 hours a week give me a shout and I'll sell you a business plan that will make you a lot more than you will get from mining for 50 hours.
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 If you are going to be ingame 50 hours a week give me a shout and I'll sell you a business plan that will make you a lot more than you will get from mining for 50 hours.
best opportunity in this thread c/d?
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:08:00 -
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Looking over other requests for loans I forgot to post a pretty crucial part of the process.
Considering I have zero rep on the MD forums, I am willing to accept a 20b loan from one or multiple sources @ 45%/Month Interest.
the payment plan would be as follows:
First Month -> 45% Interest Second Month -> 45% Interest + 35% of Principle Third Month -> 45% Interest + remaining Principle
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Looking over other requests for loans I forgot to post a pretty crucial part of the process.
Considering I have zero rep on the MD forums, I am willing to accept a 20b loan from one or multiple sources @ 45%/Month Interest.
the payment plan would be as follows:
First Month -> 45% Interest Second Month -> 45% Interest + 35% of Principle Third Month -> 45% Interest + remaining Principle
Because it was the lack of stating an interest rate that was holding this offering back?
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Looking over other requests for loans I forgot to post a pretty crucial part of the process.
Considering I have zero rep on the MD forums, I am willing to accept a 20b loan from one or multiple sources @ 45%/Month Interest.
the payment plan would be as follows:
First Month -> 45% Interest Second Month -> 45% Interest + 35% of Principle Third Month -> 45% Interest + remaining Principle
Because it was the lack of stating an interest rate that was holding this offering back?
Doubt it but I am trying..
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.14 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Looking over other requests for loans I forgot to post a pretty crucial part of the process.
Considering I have zero rep on the MD forums, I am willing to accept a 20b loan from one or multiple sources @ 45%/Month Interest.
the payment plan would be as follows:
First Month -> 45% Interest Second Month -> 45% Interest + 35% of Principle Third Month -> 45% Interest + remaining Principle
Because it was the lack of stating an interest rate that was holding this offering back?
Doubt it but I am trying..
You've made me feel bad for trolling you now.
But it's never going to happen. Move on.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.06.14 16:50:00 -
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Good sticktoitiveness, changing your OP and still pressing forward.
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Business Plan I am looking for a Loan Approx. 8b isk in order to startup a legit 0.0 mining operation.
What makes your mining operation "legit"?
What's to stop you from buying 8 GISK-worth of PLEXes or otherwise spending the ISK, and never fitting a mining laser?
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Starting Date the bond will take effect immediately.
Seems optimistic.
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.15 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond Good sticktoitiveness, changing your OP and still pressing forward.
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Business Plan I am looking for a Loan Approx. 8b isk in order to startup a legit 0.0 mining operation.
What makes your mining operation "legit"?
What's to stop you from buying 8 GISK-worth of PLEXes or otherwise spending the ISK, and never fitting a mining laser?
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw Starting Date the bond will take effect immediately.
Seems optimistic.
The reason i stated legit was because of an earlier post stating that I may be an "RMTer" or a "botter" which I am neither and want to express that before those looking to invest.
Also, I understand that there is nothing to stop me from not full-filling the deal though I am hoping that there are a few people who will take the risk. The Average miner runs about 2-2.5b, taking the suggestions of an earlier post I plan to only start with 3 miners, therefore at worst case scenario I'm dropping 7.5 of the 8b on Just the characters which leaves 500m and what I have in order to ship up and start mining as soon as possible. I Already have the systems with pos/rorq and orca support on stand by, just need the miners.
The reason I am optimistic about the bonds taking effect immediately from the transfer of isk is because I know I can return the money as stated. With my current planning and time schedule I am looking at netting approx. 5.4b/mo after plexing the mining accounts. With those numbers, there is no reason why the bonds could not be returned within 3 months time and no reason that any one person couldn't pull out before the end of the bond period.
Sorry if I am not providing the right information as I am new to asking for bonds on the forums. If there's any information that I should provide, please inform me and I shall.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.15 03:05:00 -
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i like the part where you offer 30% _________________________________________________
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.15 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jerry Pepridge i like the part where you offer 30%
I offered 30% due to the fact that I have zero rep here with MD therefore a high interest rates gives more incentive for investment due to the increase of isk returned.
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.15 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge i like the part where you offer 30%
I offered 30% due to the fact that I have zero rep here with MD therefore a high interest rates gives more incentive for investment due to the increase of isk returned.
OF course, the interest rate only matters if you get your money back.
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.15 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Faith Clothos
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge i like the part where you offer 30%
I offered 30% due to the fact that I have zero rep here with MD therefore a high interest rates gives more incentive for investment due to the increase of isk returned.
OF course, the interest rate only matters if you get your money back.
Which you will...I don't understand what it is exactly needed to prove that I'm not here to troll/scam.
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.15 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
Originally by: Faith Clothos
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge i like the part where you offer 30%
I offered 30% due to the fact that I have zero rep here with MD therefore a high interest rates gives more incentive for investment due to the increase of isk returned.
OF course, the interest rate only matters if you get your money back.
Which you will...I don't understand what it is exactly needed to prove that I'm not here to troll/scam.
A viable plan not involving multiple pilots and a reasonable certainty of getting money back might be a good place to start. The words "Hulk" and "mining" probably don't help either.
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.15 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Faith Clothos
Originally by: Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
A viable plan not involving multiple pilots and a reasonable certainty of getting money back might be a good place to start. The words "Hulk" and "mining" probably don't help either.
What if the investor would be the one to purchase the mining accounts which would be found by me (no trouble needed for an investor) and would give access to me for the mining operation. That way the account is under the investors information until bond payment was completed? That way if bond payment was is not completed, investor has said account to either a) keep for their own ventures or b) resell it back to the character bazaar for what they paid?
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.06.16 12:33:00 -
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Spitfire plz delete this, seriously... >.<
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Trade Scoutz Tradersftw
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Posted - 2011.06.16 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Strrog Spitfire plz delete this, seriously... >.<
Revised initial request after sitting down with more knowledgeable MD folks.
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