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White Tree
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: White Tree on 13/06/2011 21:54:32 There is currently no new Space Opera Sci-fi being aired on television.
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(Doctor Who barely counts, and I say this as a Doctor Who fan.) _______________________________________
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 13/06/2011 21:56:42 I had hopes for Demons a while back if that counts as a sci-fi. But they canned that after the first season. Tbh it was more Drama that Sci-fi, but still had the same feel to it imo. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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White Tree
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Posted - 2011.06.13 21:56:00 -
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I loved SG:U :( _______________________________________
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:06:00 -
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You're a CSM.
EVE:Chronicles
Make it happen. I can't heal stupid
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:19:00 -
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the problem with eve chronicles is that the shorter they are, the better they usually are. all of the long ones (aside from jita 4-4) that have stories, like black mountain or the mercenaries, are usually kinda bland or the dialogue is really dumb.
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:20:00 -
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I've always been a little fuzzy on this fact, what exactly makes a TV show an opera?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Wilhelm Riley I've always been a little fuzzy on this fact, what exactly makes a TV show an opera?
Fat people yelling really loudly
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Arista Shahni
Amarr Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:31:00 -
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As far as I understood a space opera has more to do with the "people" and their interactions than the genre of being in space.
Science Fiction = human reality, in spacesuits.
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Arista Shahni As far as I understood a space opera has more to do with the "people" and their interactions than the genre of being in space.
Science Fiction = human reality, in spacesuits.
That just sounds like Sci fi drama to me, there must be more to it.
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Cee Dublyew
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:53:00 -
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I wish there was a channel with just space-opera (or related) type show's. Lord know's there is enough old and new shows about space to fill the void.
I can totally see CCP even providing a commercial for it.
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Xenuria
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.14 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree Edited by: White Tree on 13/06/2011 21:54:32 There is currently no new Space Opera Sci-fi being aired on television.
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(Doctor Who barely counts, and I say this as a Doctor Who fan.)
Fixed "Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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White Tree
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Posted - 2011.06.14 01:05:00 -
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Stargate Universe Owned. Battlestar Galactica Owned. Farscape Owned.
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Miso Hawnee
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Posted - 2011.06.14 02:38:00 -
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It had been my observation that Science Fiction / Space shows are the most likely to have anti-establishment themes written in. This is probably what contributes to their rarity, as Corporate sponsorship is less than eager to encourage radical ideals and open conversation about the downfalls of society.
Just watch Jersey shore and buy the next I-phone, we don't want nerds using critical thinking and imagination, that **** is dangerous and bad for profits.
Firefly had an anti federalist theme, **** canned.
Back in the 90s, Space Above and Beyond dared suggest that Mega corporations would create wars for profit, rolling air schedule and canceled.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.14 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Miso Hawnee It had been my observation that Science Fiction / Space shows are the most likely to have anti-establishment themes written in. This is probably what contributes to their rarity, as Corporate sponsorship is less than eager to encourage radical ideals and open conversation about the downfalls of society.
Intersting idea, not considered it before. Babylon 5 was like that as well. It got canned but eventualy returned.
The Real Space Initiative - V7
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.14 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
mercyonman
Caldari Technomage Trilogy Crimson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.14 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
obviously you're an Englishman
When you crash your car, then jump out running down the street to save your pod.
Then you're playing way too much eve - MacGrowler III |
Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: White Tree Stargate Universe Owned. Battlestar Galactica Owned. Farscape Owned.
What about Firefly?
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Zagam
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wilhelm Riley
Originally by: White Tree Stargate Universe Owned. Battlestar Galactica Owned. Farscape Owned.
What about Firefly?
Firefly owned.
Firefly also was a victim of bad timing. It came out at the same time that "reality TV" was coming out. Fox, who owns the rights to Firefly and to American Idol, decided to jump on the "reality TV" bandwagon, and dump Firefly. If Firefly came out one or two years earlier, or 5 years later, it could still be on TV. But, the TV gods were not on our side, and Fox is a bunch of money-grubbing *******s (who won't release the rights to anyone), so no firefly. ---------.oOo.---------- Chaos, Madness, and Destruction. My work here is done. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:36:00 -
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Firefly was imo horrible. Cowboys in space, seriously?
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
First half of first season? Definately, but after that it became better and season 2 was good.
Issue isnt some tinfoil hat theory about scifi being anti-establishment, the issue it simply isnt that popular and has relative high production costs (minus the cheaper actors). Combine that with idiots who only air them directly in the US and you force enormous parts of your fanbase to download them, costing you income. Now if they would allow you to download them from their site for a reasonable fee and with good quality it could be a good income source.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2011.06.14 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 14/06/2011 14:50:20 SG:U was probably the main reason there isn't a Space Opera Sci-fi being aired at the moment
It wasn't terrible, it just wasn't any good. Didn't even come CLOSE to BSG
I didn't really get into Firefly either, but <3 Farscape if only for how strange and weird it was. ___
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.15 01:12:00 -
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Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome is comming out soon.
I hope it lasts.
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Saint Lazarus
Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.15 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
I 100% agree with this, I so desperately wanted SG:U to be good......but it wasnt, it was horrible, and it only got worse as it went on.
Without Rush I wouldnt have even bothered watch all of Season 1, it deserved to be canned.
And no I r not an Englishman -----------------
My EvE Comic
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.15 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Firefly was imo horrible. Cowboys in space, seriously?
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
First half of first season? Definately, but after that it became better and season 2 was good.
no, it was still really bad. Cloverdale in season 2 was awful and stupid. In season 1, there was the 'military vs civilians' episode, that two episode arc where the pudgy nerd and a couple others get stuck outside they left on a cliffhanger and then just suddenly resolved... it was really bad. Except for Rush, his episodes were generally pretty good.
also you hate firefly, your opinions are utterly invalid. _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.06.15 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
obviously you're an Englishman
100% red blooded 'merican. Doesn't mean I can't have standards _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.15 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: White Tree I loved SG:U :(
except for Rush, SG:U was terrible (and even Rush was written pretty badly sometimes). The premise was decent, but the writing was awful and a lot of the acting was miserable
obviously you're an Englishman
100% red blooded 'merican. Doesn't mean I can't have standards
:america:
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Darcy D'Spledide
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Arista Shahni As far as I understood a space opera has more to do with the "people" and their interactions than the genre of being in space.
Science Fiction = human reality, in spacesuits.
"Space opera is a subgenre of speculative fiction that emphasizes romantic, often melodramatic adventure, set mainly or entirely in outer space, generally involving conflict between opponents possessing advanced technologies and abilities. The term has no relation to music and it is analogous to "soap opera" (see below). Perhaps the most significant trait of space opera is that settings, characters, battles, powers, and themes tend to be very large-scale.
Sometimes the term space opera is used pejoratively to denote bad quality science fiction, but its meaning can differ, often describing a particular science fiction genre without any value judgement...
..."there is no general agreement as to what [space opera] is, which writers are the best examples, or even which works are space opera"... Space opera has had several key and different definitions throughout its history; definitions that were significantly affected by literary politics. They argue that "what used to be science fantasy is now space opera, and what used to be space opera is entirely forgotten."
The phrase "space opera" itself was coined in 1941 by fanwriter (and later author) Wilson Tucker, in a fanzine article, as a pejorative term. At the time, serial radio dramas in the US had become popularly known as soap operas because many were sponsored by soap manufacturers. Tucker defined space opera as the SF equivalent: a "hacky, grinding, stinking, outworn, spaceship yarn". Even earlier, the term horse opera had come into use as a term for western movies." --Wikipedia
tldr: Space Opera = romantic adventure narrative but with enormous space sized goings-on that get in the way. The term has changed meaning. It used to mean 'cheap tacky sci-fi', now it means 'epic-sized sci-fi'. It was coined by a zine writer likening the shoddy serials of the day to soap operas.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:51:00 -
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How do you guys have time to work, go to the gym, cook every meal from scratch, play EVE if you are watching TV all the time? .
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Wilhelm Riley
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
obviously you're an Englishman
I'm offended.
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