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Xia Shianggu
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Posted - 2011.06.14 06:07:00 -
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I've just bought my first Tengu, and I don't want to get it blown up on account of overconfidence in my own fitting skills.
I'm wanting to use it for mission-running and exploring, including going into lowsec, so I'm hoping to make it sturdy - hopefully sturdy enough to do L4s - but also cloakable and unprobable.
My current subsystem set is: - Dissolution Sequencer - Adaptive Shielding - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix - Covert Configuration - Interdiction Nullifier
What are some good fitting setups for my above-stated purposes?
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Lhora Keldar
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:49:00 -
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Interdiction Nullifier is kinda wasted if you aren't going into nullsec, since it only protects against non-targeted interdiction.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.06.14 10:27:00 -
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I DON'T recommend doing missions with a Cloak subsystem fit, the damage is pathetic compared to the Accelerated Ejection Bay. But if I personally had to, and assuming Gurista missions:
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Gravimetric Backup Array II
Pith C-Type Large Shield Booster Ballistic Deflection Field II 10MN Afterburner II Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I Conjunctive Gravimetric ECCM Scanning Array I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
The shield booster runs at roughly 114mil at the moment, which isn't insane like the medium deadspace ones that will run you 500-2.5bil. Do NOT use T2 missiles, your signature will bloom and you won't have your lovely unscannable ability anymore.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.06.14 10:39:00 -
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Every l4 mission, especially vs guristas, can be tanked with pithi b-type small booster with tengu. Travel with covops sub and switch to accelerated ejection bay for missioning. You dont need interdiction nullifier in lowsec.
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Senses Dallo
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Posted - 2011.06.14 10:57:00 -
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work your way to something like mine - isk printer i should rename it to ... hehe
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Domination Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
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DeBingJos
Minmatar Jukebox Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Senses Dallo work your way to something like mine - isk printer i should rename it to ... hehe
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Domination Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Replace one of the BCU's with a tech 2 version -> much cheaper and almost no difference in damage output. |
Templatus
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.14 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: DeBingJos Replace one of the BCU's with a tech 2 version -> much cheaper and almost no difference in damage output.
With all that other stuff on the ship, the added 80-100 mil for a CN BCS shouldn't even make the loan adviser flinch. Besides, there's the aesthetics factor. 4 identical BCS modules look nice on text :)
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Darryl Ward
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Posted - 2011.06.14 16:44:00 -
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I would do level 4's well before I went into low sec with a Tengu. I would at least make my money back with it before I gambled it. Even in high sec, a Tengu is a target for suicide gankers, in low sec it screams "kill me".
If you can fit into a Tengu, then you should be able to do level 4's with it. Your only problem is webbers and scrammers, when you have both on you your tank is gone. Other than that, nothing can hit you...
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Xia Shianggu
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Posted - 2011.06.15 04:31:00 -
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Thanks for the fitting suggestions!
Guess I misread the interdiction nullifier info - I was thinking it would render immunity to standard scramblers, leave you warpable without directed interdictor tackle.
Just to finish showing my total t3 noobiness - you can swap out subsystems without repackaging the ship, right?
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McBorsk
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Xia Shianggu Thanks for the fitting suggestions!
Guess I misread the interdiction nullifier info - I was thinking it would render immunity to standard scramblers, leave you warpable without directed interdictor tackle.
Just to finish showing my total t3 noobiness - you can swap out subsystems without repackaging the ship, right?
yup, just drag a new one and drop it over the interdiction nullifier.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.06.15 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Senses Dallo [Tengu, New Setup 1]
Do not fit it like that, its terrible fit in terms of damage projection, its very expensive with no added benefit to mission completion time and its not unprobable.
Again, all you need to tank l4 missions is small pithi b-type booster /around 150 mil/ + 2 hardeners, 3 faction bcus help with damage output and t2 missile rigs can be worth it as they are only 15-20mil.
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Evil Stare
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Posted - 2011.06.15 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Senses Dallo work your way to something like mine - isk printer i should rename it to ... hehe
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Domination Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Medium Ancillary Current Router II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
It's hard not to over tank these, but this is the fit I've used and it's more than enough. I drop the kin and therm amps for 2 exp for angels and have no problem with ae4 + bonus room. The use of missile rigs removes the need for a painter which is one less thing to manage. I'd suspect the cost of this fit is less as well, given the cost of faction invul. The dps difference between 3 faction bcu's and one tech 2 vs 4 faction bcu's is 6 dps i believe (784 vs 790 with my skills), if that's worth 80m too you, have at it. I happen to have 4 laying around. I still think this fit is over tanked but i missoin with 3 accounts doing 3 different missions at the same time. The extra comfort level is worth it to me.
[Tengu, Serp] Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner Shield Boost Amplifier II Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Cap Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
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Xenuria
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.15 18:07:00 -
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Wow.. OP is a noob... He buys a tengu and then shield tanks it...
Its a Tengu not a Legion you tard... Armor Tank > Shield Tanking "Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Xia Shianggu
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Posted - 2011.06.16 02:20:00 -
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I'm all for overtanking - apart from anything else, I really don't want to get blown up in this anyway, waht with the price and the skill point loss, but losing it to mission rats? I'd have to pod myself in shame, and implants aren't cheap.
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LiSung
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Posted - 2011.06.16 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Wow.. OP is a noob... He buys a tengu and then shield tanks it...
Its a Tengu not a Legion you tard... Armor Tank > Shield Tanking
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.06.16 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xia Shianggu I'm all for overtanking - apart from anything else, I really don't want to get blown up in this anyway, waht with the price and the skill point loss, but losing it to mission rats? I'd have to pod myself in shame, and implants aren't cheap.
If you are that incompetent, you probably should fly drake then. With expensive fit you will just feed suicide gankers, but enjoy.
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Fulmar Muse
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.16 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Fulmar Muse on 16/06/2011 08:23:53 holy ****!!!... its beyond anything i've ever flown b4...
[Tengu, New Setup 4] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Brokara's Modified Reactor Control Unit Damage Control II
Core C-Type 100MN Afterburner Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Domination Warp Disruptor Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Invulnerability Field II True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
twas once my pve tengu... it hit a brick wall with the anom nerf... thankfully my alt is flying a nicely fit mach for incursions, so isk still roles in! :)
"Keep on doin what you doin, do it gud.. "
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