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Crabs Collector
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Posted - 2011.06.15 07:23:00 -
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Easy one and silly that this still hasnt been fixed: Cheap meta 4 plates (tungsten) are quite better than the expensive faction ones. They require less cpu, less powergrid and give the same armor bonus. Instead the faction ones should give more armor and have less fittingcosts, like the other faction modules.
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Ajurna Jakar
Gallente Jian Products Engineering Group Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 08:40:00 -
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unforunatly you have no idea why do you? look closer and come back when you realise...
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Arimius
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Crabs Collector Easy one and silly that this still hasnt been fixed: Cheap meta 4 plates (tungsten) are quite better than the expensive faction ones. They require less cpu, less powergrid and give the same armor bonus. Instead the faction ones should give more armor and have less fittingcosts, like the other faction modules.
What Ajurna Jakar means to say is that you will find the explaination as to why this is not a bug and why it has not been fixed in the mass-addition of the plates. Faction plates adds alot less mass to your ship, than the tungsten one's do. |
Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:28:00 -
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The price difference doesn't justify in any form the choice of faction ones, unless you like to loose pimped stuff or create hangar queens.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.15 09:53:00 -
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The Amarr and to a lesser extent Syndicate plates are nothing to write home about, T2 fitting requirements with slightly lower mass. Fed Navy plates on the other hand gets a noticeable (and hence useful) mass decrease at T2 fittings + a bit.
Whether they are worth it is another matter but considering that people are willing to buy webs that cost more than the hulls they are used on (pinata DD, best DD)...
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Crabs Collector
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Posted - 2011.06.18 20:42:00 -
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Practically nobody seems to use them. Doesnt that ring any bells that there should be more advantage in those (way) more expensive faction platings?
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Oregin
Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Oregin on 19/06/2011 00:31:52
Originally by: Crabs Collector Practically nobody seems to use them. Doesnt that ring any bells that there should be more advantage in those (way) more expensive faction platings?
Not sure if you're correct here. Since EVE is a player run economy, prices reflect demand. If nobody is willing to pay for these things then sellers would have to drop their prices. Market prices move towards the price that players deem reasonable.
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Mocam
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Posted - 2011.06.19 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Oregin Edited by: Oregin on 19/06/2011 00:31:52
Originally by: Crabs Collector Practically nobody seems to use them. Doesnt that ring any bells that there should be more advantage in those (way) more expensive faction platings?
Not sure if you're correct here. Since EVE is a player run economy, prices reflect demand. If nobody is willing to pay for these things then sellers would have to drop their prices. Market prices move towards the price that players deem reasonable.
As you say, economy. 1600mm meta 4 cost what - 1m-2m each? The faction ones, just ISK wise, start at 4 mill on up to 18 mill - and that's just the ISK costs for them, not the enemy faction tags, nor meta 0 plate needed nor LP.
Just pointing out the facts on this.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.19 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: Crabs Collector Practically nobody seems to use them. Doesnt that ring any bells that there should be more advantage in those (way) more expensive faction platings?
Reason why you don't see them a lot is because they are a chore and a half to bring to market in worthwhile quantities.
You get them from the LP store in exchange for a T1 steel plate which take a whopping 100m3 to move around. Very few people will opt for such a **** poor ISK/m3 hauled ratio when there are lots of other much better ones available.
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z0de
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Crabs Collector I've noticed one of the many items which are better at the low meta end, I hope this makes me special its not like this anyone in this 8 year old game full of obsessive min-maxers will have checked before.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Vengeance Industrial Militia
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Posted - 2011.06.19 16:44:00 -
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How about Tech III Fullerine Plates? ____________ ___972630___ ^^My Signature is Better than Yours^^ |
King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:07:00 -
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Faction plates are worthless because although they do have less of a mass penalty, they are still plates. If you're using plates, you're also using trimarks. That means you aren't going anywhere in a hurry anyways. Ever EFT the difference between faction and normal plates on a MWDing abaddon? The difference is a joke. Nobody uses the things for any practical reason. Giving faction plates reduced mass penalties was a poor design decision and should be corrected. You could give them 0 mass and nobody would use them still, it's an irrelevant bonus on an armor tanked ship. The only reasonable bonus to give them is additional HP.
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Elvis Preslie
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ajurna Jakar unforunatly you have no idea why do you? look closer and come back when you realise...
You're angry at people for not knowing something, when they're asking the question, but you dont want to explain to them that the game is imbalanced otherwise. Come back when you dont want to be a ****.
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Mars Theran
Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:05:00 -
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Post any fit that includes storyline mod's to local in Jita, Dodixe, or any other populated place, and see what happens There is a reason nobody uses them, and it hasn't anything to do with how good they are, or even that they only offer a marginal boost in performance/capability over Tech I Meta or Tech II items.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:46:00 -
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One of the biggest drawbacks is that they have T2 fitting specs instead the ones of the RT plates since most of the medium hulls that relay on speed are also fairly low on CPU or PG(or both).
I was actually ready to pay the extra ISK for them on my guardian for a 0.4s better align and 20m/s better top speed(with ab), before I realized that there is no way to free up the extra fitting for them without gimping the fit again.
Same goes for faction shield extenders btw(with the exception of caldari ones, but they only got the same base values of T2 with named fittings). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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