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Optumes
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Posted - 2011.06.16 11:20:00 -
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Hey guys.
I currently do level 4s in a T2 sentry rattle i get about 550 dps out of it.
I can fit a Mach with 979 dps (can only fit t1 weapons tough).
So the question is should i replace the rattle with a mach for level 4s even tough i can only fit t1 guns? |
Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.16 11:27:00 -
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yes. did the same with only t1 guns for the mach as well. never flown the rattle again. |
Darhunt
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Posted - 2011.06.16 11:50:00 -
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cool thanks, think ill give it a shot
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.06.16 15:42:00 -
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Depends.
If you d AFK missioning, aggroing everything, launching your drones and then going to have dinner, the Mach is a very poor choice.
If you are at your keyboard during the whole mission it is a excellent ship.
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Optumes
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:11:00 -
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cool thanks for the input, i decided to keep the rattle and get the mach, so for those days i wana afk ill use rattle and for the days i want to be hands on ill use the mach
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:30:00 -
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personally i prefer to use Domi/gila/rattle as i like to run missions semi-afk.
Not sure about your skills (t1 guns is enough hovewer what about support skills?) but my Mach shoots well to 5-33km. Rarely i shoot to 35-41km. And never - farer. This means you need to move alot in missions where targets are scattered. Which is completely outside my style of palying =)
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Darhunt
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:35:00 -
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support skills are decent, my range with auto's and 3 tracking enhancers is 66km
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achoura
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Posted - 2011.06.16 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Darhunt support skills are decent, my range with auto's and 3 tracking enhancers is 66km
At which range you'd be better in the snake :)
Shame you don't have the skills, because a torp rattle (couple nav comps, possibly augmenters) absolutely minces missions. With los skills the obvious choice is tengu/mach. I'm curious how people fit the 4 slot tanks tbh, without crystals, cheaply. I can keep my +5s in when flying a tengu, something I quite like. ***The EVE servers and their patches***
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.16 17:56:00 -
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Make sure to account for falloff. The Mach really only does ~900 DPS under 10km. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.06.16 18:41:00 -
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Only if there was some module, that allows you to approach your target very fast, so you can always apply most of you dps.
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Fi1ippo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.16 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: achoura
Originally by: Darhunt support skills are decent, my range with auto's and 3 tracking enhancers is 66km
At which range you'd be better in the snake :)
Shame you don't have the skills, because a torp rattle (couple nav comps, possibly augmenters) absolutely minces missions. With los skills the obvious choice is tengu/mach. I'm curious how people fit the 4 slot tanks tbh, without crystals, cheaply. I can keep my +5s in when flying a tengu, something I quite like.
He will be much faster and more efficient in a macha then in a rattle. The rattle will 2-3 shot most battleships, and one shot pretty much everything else. Since ACs work in falloff, you don't have to be under 30km or w.e someone said before do do unbelievable damage.
I love my rattlesnake, the tank Is outstanding and completely outdoes the Mach in that dept but then again the Mach doesn't need it bec pretty much everything is dead before they get inside 50km,
dps wise, range wise, and speed wise the macha takes the rattlesnake to school. (with the right skills)
"The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick."
From the song Overtime (Maverik Lacrosse Commercial), by D.One.
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Delucian
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Posted - 2011.06.16 23:11:00 -
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Are most of you running toros in the rattler? I moved back to cruise due to range issues. Even with the bonus they are 30km and I found that NPC's were staying just out of range.
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Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.17 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Larrza on 17/06/2011 00:46:27
Originally by: Delucian Are most of you running toros in the rattler? I moved back to cruise due to range issues. Even with the bonus they are 30km and I found that NPC's were staying just out of range.
Yes but use torps on matar rats.
mach+tengu nightmare+tengu golem+tengu Navy Domi+tengu
that is how my setup goes, depending on what rats i fancy doing. for afk id just use a navy domi, forget rattle, its only good for 5's.
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Mike712
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Posted - 2011.06.17 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 Make sure to account for falloff. The Mach really only does ~900 DPS under 10km.
Not entirely true, a good mach will do 900 DPS out to 30km+.
Mach is up there with the CNR as the most effective all rounder in level 4s, rattlesnake is a poor choice unless you want an AFK ship, but a domi does just as well so the snake is a waste of isk tbh....
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.17 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Only if there was some module, that allows you to approach your target very fast, so you can always apply most of you dps.
Yes, prop mod is incredibly important. The Mach being the fastest of the battleships helps a lot.
The point of my post, because a lot of people don't get that falloff reduces your damage. They will load up a 1100 DPS mach, see a ~78km falloff range and assume
**OMOGOMGOMGOMOGMOMG* 1100 DPS AT 78KM. I DONT NEED NO PROP AND I R BEST SHIP IN EVE. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Ireland VonVicious
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Posted - 2011.06.17 20:32:00 -
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You need to rethink your snake fit.
It can easly pull off 800 dps that goes out the full targeting range. All while still having a good tank.
It's the fit not the ship your having issues with.
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General Foom
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: General Foom on 18/06/2011 10:00:41
Originally by: Ireland VonVicious You need to rethink your snake fit.
It can easly pull off 800 dps that goes out the full targeting range. All while still having a good tank.
It's the fit not the ship your having issues with.
even with double omni's, optimal on Garde II's is about 45kms and they are the only way you get 800 dps out this bucket without torp fitting or using ogre's and yeah flying ogre's out 90kms is dumb
its safer to say to can do 800dps at about 45kms at 90 its more like 700...using bouncer II's
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JackStraw56
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Posted - 2011.06.18 17:51:00 -
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Mach does missions faster, Rattlesnake is easier to AFK. /thread
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