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Paul StClair
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Posted - 2011.06.16 14:25:00 -
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I am thinking about joining the 24th Imperial Crusade at some point in the future, I'm wondering is it worth the time and effort to follow this career path. Can I get alot of PVP killing via route?
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Laurent Savard
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Posted - 2011.06.16 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Laurent Savard on 16/06/2011 15:10:53
Originally by: Paul StClair Edited by: Paul StClair on 16/06/2011 14:52:18 Edited by: Paul StClair on 16/06/2011 14:51:29 I am thinking about joining the 24th Imperial Crusade at some point in the future, I'm wondering is it worth the time and effort to follow this career path. Can I get alot of PVP killing via route?
What restrictions will I have being in faction warfare? What advantages ? What disadvanatages?
Whats your vote guys?
The basic pros and cons are self-explanatory.
You have a permanent wardec essentially with the enemy millitias, so you can engage in hisec and losec PVP with them without the usual consequences (CONCORD, Sec Status, Gate Guns).
You have access to FW agents, missions, LP stores, etc.
So you get some PVP and PVE benefits.
On the downside, you are basically cut out of a lot of empire space that belongs to your enemies. So, no quick jaunts to Jita if you are an enemy of the Caldari State, etc.
If you are talking about joining the NPC corp, I understand that is problematic as many people consider that the primary route for FW spies, etc. Better off joining a PC Corp in FW.
Being in FW as a Corp precludes being in an Alliance (I suppose the Millitia is considered your Alliance).
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Mara Abraham
Minmatar T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.06.16 15:24:00 -
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Good day, Paul StClair:
While there is no wining per say; both sides -- Amarr and Minmatar stack up well against each other though how well does vary based on time zone.
I've yet to speak to anyone (chat, eve voice, email, etc.) that did not have a blast in faction warfare (whether they are still in it, or only stayed for a period of time).
The amount of PVP does vary based on time zone. I cannot speak for the Amarr, but on the Minmatar side, the NPC corp players typically fend for themselves until they've built up some form of reputation as being a reliable PVP pilot who is not working for the other side.
The restrictions is that if you enter enemy high security space (of the opposing two factions), the navy (which is extremely different than CONCORD) will do their best to try and destroy your ship (they don't touch pods). While if you keep moving, this is extremely hard for them to do, they do have the technology in place to prevent you from cloaking, and they have such great tracking their is no way to hide from them while in space.
Give it a whirl and have a blast doing it.
Thank you. --- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info
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Paul StClair
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Posted - 2011.06.16 18:14:00 -
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Thanks for advice on this matter, i think i will join the 24th Imperial Crusade... in due course once a set of skills that allow myself to fly and fight in such a battlefield... the spy business might be a problem for me as nobody will know me thus trust me within the amarr faction. Might start by flying frigates whilst i get to know a crew of pilots.
good luck and fly safe.
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Mara Abraham
Minmatar T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.06.16 18:26:00 -
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Good day:
Unless you've previous low security space pvp experience, I do suggest t1 frigates for a while.
When I first joined the Minmatar FW side, I purchased a little over 200 Rifters; I now have 49 left (granted, some of them converted to Firetails for sale and not lost in battle) ;-)
For the Amarr, if you have good rocket skills the Inquisitor (armor fit to take advantage of the low signature radius) often surprises people (I've seen these ships take down t2 frigates that took it for granted).
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info
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Deen Wispa
Gallente Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.06.16 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Deen Wispa on 16/06/2011 18:55:49 If you go by the KB for the Amarr and Matar, then yes, the Amarr are winning. They have more kills...at least for the month of June.
If you want to fight on the winning side (TZ dependent), fight for the Amarr. If you like to fight outnumbered, fight for the minmatar.
One of the great advantages to FW fighting is that you can camp gates in cruiser class and below and not worry about sentry gun fire as you would if you were not in FW but still fighting in lowsec.
I think the spaiz angle is more sensationalism and ignorance speaking more than anything else. Post some intel and get a few kills on the enemy and someone will recruit you in a few days. That's what I did.
The irony to all of this is that the Minmatar have the best pvp ships. But yet, they're not the best pvpers. Go figure.
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Paul StClair
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Posted - 2011.06.16 21:28:00 -
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Hello, yeah i was thinking about t1 frigates; was thinking the punisher because has armour resists bonus with a nice slot lay out. So this little ship can take some thumb.
I also agree minmatar have some super fast ships which do the business well, on missions i have severe problems with them when running level three which I have just recently started, lol finally.
The reports I have seen about the amarr faction is that they are very organised, have supply and distrubution chain, communications well formatted in a way they function as a team on the battlefield with vast numbers which might explain their victories, i guess.
thanks for the help.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.17 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Deen Wispa
If you go by the KB for the Amarr and Matar, then yes, the Amarr are winning. They have more kills...at least for the month of June.
Errrr... a fair bit of the Minnie militia uses this board so your numbers might be a bit off.
As far as who's winning... it ebbs and flows like the tides. One month the Minmitar Militia is winning... another month the Amarr dominate. Speaking as a Minnie militia member who occasionally roams around the war zone during late PST (Pacific Standard Time) I have yet to see the Amarr militia actually put up stiff and consistent presence/resistance to my miltia.
Originally by: Deen Wispa
The irony to all of this is that the Minmatar have the best pvp ships. But yet, they're not the best pvpers. Go figure.
Heh... it goes both ways as all sides have their "special snowflakes."
[Amarr Militia] Full-Battle Widow "testing his tank" on a station
[Minmitar Militia] Double Webbing, T2 Torp throwing, Nosferatu Drednought. _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Vordak Kallager
Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.18 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Deen Wispa Edited by: Deen Wispa on 16/06/2011 18:55:49 The irony to all of this is that the Minmatar have the best pvp ships. But yet, they're not the best pvpers. Go figure.
Confirming we are terrible.
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Maz3r Rakum
Gallente The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.06.18 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers Edited by: ShahFluffers on 17/06/2011 03:44:22
Originally by: Deen Wispa
If you go by the KB for the Amarr and Matar, then yes, the Amarr are winning. They have more kills...at least for the month of June.
Errrr... a fair bit of the Minnie militia uses this board so your numbers might be a bit off.
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
Amarr seem to be much stronger in the EU TZ and in the afternoon in the NA TZ, however the Amarr seem much weaker in the NA TZ in the evening.
I'd highly recommend starting off in a t1 frig, like a punisher, rifter, merlin, or tristan and learning the ropes. Upgrade to AFs/Intys/Faction frigs and cruisers when you feel a bit more confident.
If you are in north america, join Amarr, we could use some more pilots. Or join the minnmatar, more targets are also nice |
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.19 05:30:00 -
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They have harder missions than Minmatar, so I'd say they are losing the farming war ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
David Clausewitz
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.19 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190 They have harder missions than Minmatar, so I'd say they are losing the farming war
rofl this is so true
lasers man, if only explosive lasers existed
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BeastlyRage
draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.19 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: BeastlyRage on 19/06/2011 08:27:48
Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
Originally by: ShahFluffers Edited by: ShahFluffers on 17/06/2011 03:44:22
Originally by: Deen Wispa
If you go by the KB for the Amarr and Matar, then yes, the Amarr are winning. They have more kills...at least for the month of June.
Errrr... a fair bit of the Minnie militia uses this board so your numbers might be a bit off.
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
Amarr seem to be much stronger in the EU TZ and in the afternoon in the NA TZ, however the Amarr seem much weaker in the NA TZ in the evening.
I'd highly recommend starting off in a t1 frig, like a punisher, rifter, merlin, or tristan and learning the ropes. Upgrade to AFs/Intys/Faction frigs and cruisers when you feel a bit more confident.
If you are in north america, join Amarr, we could use some more pilots. Or join the minnmatar, more targets are also nice
OMG Hai Maz3. How's militia doing? Haven't seen you on EvE lately. How's Pred?
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jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.19 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
The amarr board is also ran by LOLRP'ers that like to 'tweak' the stats and kills.
IE any non-militia kill will be deleted, even though the amarr use an abundance of pirate corps not to mention alliances (cva) and their own alts to fight their battles, that are removed from their board by the admins, making there stats look allot better, and their battle reports looking one-sided.... its by no means more accurate. like all player ran things, take it with a grain of salt.
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Paul StClair
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:31:00 -
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Hi There,
yeah I'm EUTZ, i'm experinced with farming or more commonly known as Mission Running, I'm now learning to scan down sites and ships in space. I can fly cruisers now but i stick with T1 Frigs when joining Amarr. On the side I'm trading goods like modules and developing into the ship market and make extra esky.
Building my skills up for PVP need a bit more time then i be ready to join Amarr Militia with Paul St Clair, my toon is only about 6 months old. I have done alot of skill training into social skills and trade skills and currently developing scanning skills (Electronics).
I did have a toon called Mini Mee 7of9 who was a Caldari pilot who was with the CVA for a time years ago but I lost this acct and was not able to access because i could not prove I was the user to CCP hence the mission running knowledge at both lvl4 and lvl5 but my PVP skills in practice is not very good because I use to be a farmer for the CVA.
Thanks for the advice. guys and dolls.
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Vordak Kallager
Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.22 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
The amarr board is also ran by LOLRP'ers that like to 'tweak' the stats and kills.
IE any non-militia kill will be deleted, even though the amarr use an abundance of pirate corps not to mention alliances (cva) and their own alts to fight their battles, that are removed from their board by the admins, making there stats look allot better, and their battle reports looking one-sided.... its by no means more accurate. like all player ran things, take it with a grain of salt.
They also allow stuff like this to pad their stats.
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Sneaky Noob
KA POW POW Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.22 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vordak Kallager
Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
The amarr board is also ran by LOLRP'ers that like to 'tweak' the stats and kills.
IE any non-militia kill will be deleted, even though the amarr use an abundance of pirate corps not to mention alliances (cva) and their own alts to fight their battles, that are removed from their board by the admins, making there stats look allot better, and their battle reports looking one-sided.... its by no means more accurate. like all player ran things, take it with a grain of salt.
They also allow stuff like this to pad their stats.
To be fair Vord, that was auto-pulled from the Minmatar board. Since posting garbage like that on the Amarr board would get him in a world of **** with the rest of militia, he posts it on the Matari board.
Big difference is our KB admins are kinda fast at erasing that stuffs...
In the end, relying on killboard stats to judge factional warfare is dumb. Best way to find out what's going on is to jump in and find out first hand.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vordak Kallager
Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
The amarr board is also ran by LOLRP'ers that like to 'tweak' the stats and kills.
IE any non-militia kill will be deleted, even though the amarr use an abundance of pirate corps not to mention alliances (cva) and their own alts to fight their battles, that are removed from their board by the admins, making there stats look allot better, and their battle reports looking one-sided.... its by no means more accurate. like all player ran things, take it with a grain of salt.
They also allow stuff like this to pad their stats.
To be fair, Flyinghotpocket is the only pilot I have seen do that. He also did it while he was in House Theodoulos. Don't judge the entirety of the Amarr militia on one fail pilot's need to doctor killmails to minimize his public display of fail. ***** ***** ***** *****
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Vordak Kallager
Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.24 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vordak Kallager on 24/06/2011 11:17:25
Originally by: Sneaky Noob
Originally by: Vordak Kallager
Originally by: jasper beamsalot
Originally by: Maz3r Rakum
The amarr board automatically posts losses and kills that are found on other killboards, so i find the amarr board to be more accurate as many pilots on both sides fail to post their own losses.
The amarr board is also ran by LOLRP'ers that like to 'tweak' the stats and kills.
IE any non-militia kill will be deleted, even though the amarr use an abundance of pirate corps not to mention alliances (cva) and their own alts to fight their battles, that are removed from their board by the admins, making there stats look allot better, and their battle reports looking one-sided.... its by no means more accurate. like all player ran things, take it with a grain of salt.
They also allow stuff like this to pad their stats.
To be fair Vord, that was auto-pulled from the Minmatar board. Since posting garbage like that on the Amarr board would get him in a world of **** with the rest of militia, he posts it on the Matari board.
Big difference is our KB admins are kinda fast at erasing that stuffs...
In the end, relying on killboard stats to judge factional warfare is dumb. Best way to find out what's going on is to jump in and find out first hand.
Snarf.
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Vadeim Rizen
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:40:00 -
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feel free to join militia. there are several corps in the amarr militia that specialize in helping new people get used to FW. Definitely a good way to get started in PVP and learn the basics, as you will have many targets available to you.
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