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Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:13:00 -
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Bernadett wrote: Why does this one deserve such a grandiose show of sorrowful mourners?
For the same reason anyone does. Or everyone.
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Bernadett
Ecpyrosis
8
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:16:00 -
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cheese monkey wrote:Bernadett wrote:Gar Ddhen wrote:
VR was a Diplomat, he did not have a gun, he could not defend himself, he relied on the guards of the consulate, and the protection of the host nation.
Those who lose their lives as war fighters (as my father was I might add...), accept those risks, and to be frank it is part of their job.
It takes a special kind of courage to meet bullets with words. I dont have that courage, he did, he lost his life doing so. This is nothing about CCP, or the Goons, or the Mittani, but about a brave man, who died.
And as this thread has proven, a man who will be missed.
CCP, Goons, the Mittani, its irrelevant, its about a man who has lost his life, and about this community trying in some way to support those left behind, especially his wife and children. At the end of the day none of us will mourn as much as they, so please, bringing up previous cases is not good. If you have a beef, take it elsewhere... but here at least, have some respect not only for the dead, but those who are left behind.
Do you think an ex-commando stationed in ultra hot spots such as Irak or Libya, i.e., countries that we royally frack up and in which we fund and organize terrorism to have an ongoing pretext for intervention and meddling, does not carry a gun? Many EvE players have died. Why does this one deserve such a grandiose show of sorrowful mourners? He was a mercenary for private western interests, which use the USA as a weapons platform. He wasn't a clueless 18yr old private, he knew exactly what he was doing. The double standard is plain, when we can't say he deserves no eulogy because his trade was despicable, and when it's allowed to say "omg what a tragedy he gave his life for his country", which is just as political a statement, yet a deeply flawed one. He was serving the military-industrial complex, and was lynched by the very same people our western governments train in terrorism by proxy through Saudi Arabia. This is all quite sad. Get a clue. You literally do not have a clue. You are embarrassing yourself. Stop.
The only embarrassment I witness is part of a playerbase going on in a circleweep over a person whose trade was downright evil.
Have you raised funds for this kid who died from cerebral palsy a few years ago, and was a disabled EvE player?
Do you think the family of an ex-commando doing "diplomatic" work for the State Dept. (i.e. undercover shady jobs in a country that we have to keep in a state of constant unrest in order to justify ongoing intervention) needs a few dozen ks $? between his life savings and the pension, I think they won't be in need anytime soon.
Goons and people with a hardon for imperialistic tough guy spy fantasies and proud soldier macho bullcrap can of course raise funds all they want to pretend being the good guys in their paradigm, but the place to do it is Out of Pod experience, not General Discussion. |
cheese monkey
See you next Tuesday
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:19:00 -
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This was his community. If people in his community wish to honor him in this way then that is their choice.
Denying people this is like denying them the freedom that everyone in the world deserves...
I don't do deleting threads because i like to see how they progress, whatever the context.
It's how he lived and I'd imagine it's how he'd want to remembered. Lets not bring politics into this, it really does show people insecurities.
RIP VR
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ISD Athechu
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:38:00 -
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This thread has become the subject of extreme controversy, while we all mourn the loss of Sean Smith and we understand you wish to extend your condolences due to the nature this thread is bring about now we must lock it to preserve what it stands for.
If you wish to make a donation to his family you can do so here: http://www.youcaring.com/fundraiser_details?fundraiser_id=9332&url=benefitforseansmithsfamily (Non-EVE Website)
I would again like to apologize again but we must lock this thread due to the nature of the postings that are happening now.
ISD Athechu Commander ISD STAR (Support Training and Resources) EVE New Citizens Q&A Resources |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.17 22:57:00 -
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I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you. CCP Navigator -Community Manager |
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Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
186
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Posted - 2012.09.17 23:31:00 -
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It is very sad that so many people in this world prefer aggression and radical actions instead of reason and discussion.
Rest in peace Sean. Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff? |
Unit757
North Point Cannabis Legionis
23
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Posted - 2012.09.18 03:40:00 -
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o7 RIP
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Zargyl
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.18 07:32:00 -
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My sincere condolences as well as well to all who knew him! However the circumstances it is always sad to loose someone and it is doubly sad if it happens under such conditions way before his time. All the best to his family! |
Callum545
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:58:00 -
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RIP Vile Rat You Will be Missed
It is also really nice to see nearly every alliance rename a station or stations in some cases in rememberence of Vile Rat
Now a Jita Memorial Please CCP
"Death2AllSupers" |
Drone 16
Law Dogz
6
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Posted - 2012.09.18 16:10:00 -
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R.I.P. Vile Rat.
My condolences to the family.
I hope the Ring of Fire Memorial idea takes root. |
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jiantsquidz
I N E X T R E M I S Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:44:00 -
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rest in peace , prayers go to the family Formaly Lt Banaan/Runwithit |
Ender Sai
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.09.19 17:57:00 -
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Rest in peace, it's a damned shame. o7 |
General Windypops
The Littlest Hobos En Garde
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Posted - 2012.09.19 19:57:00 -
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Genuinely gutted to hear that. Vily was a good sparring partner, and one of those big personalities that make people think stuff or feel stuff, make games transcend pixels.
Gutted that I never got to do one of my interviews with him. Big loss to the game.
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Sampson Normadie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:38:00 -
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R.I.P VR Thank you for your service ingame and out of game, you will be missed.
Fly safe up there. o7 |
Causticum
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 13:23:00 -
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Thanks to Andski for re-posting the link to the donation page. Between us and SomethinAwful we are almost at the $100.000 mark.
I'm so proud to be part of this community, and I'm sure Sean would be proud of us too. My thoughts go to his wife Heather and their two children.
o7 |
Faulker Gath'nor
Templar Directorate Holdings Templar Command
2
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:29:00 -
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It was with great sadness that I read of Viles departure. However, it is also a fact that he did something amazing with his life and what he did ingame was beyond compare, what he did in RL is even more honor filled and proper. My wife and I send our deepest sympathies to Seans' family and loved ones.
I would say the response from the EvE community is surprising, but it is not, it is exactly what I have come to expect... surely as there are scammers in Jita, the very same would send a PLEX in a heartbeat to support a cause.
The Templar salute Vile Rat.
His name shall be entered on our roles. In each Templar call he will be spoken for, so as to maintain the presence and memory of a true man of honor. We steal no glory by this, it is a salute to a man I am proud to call my "countryman". As an American I am proud of his service and sacrifice, by Vile, and ALL others who serve.
To all active, and former servicemen/women... Thank you! Thank you! God bless you, and protect you and yours.
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Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:42:00 -
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My heartfelt condolences to his wife and children. Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet? |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.09.22 14:53:00 -
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RIP If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
1
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Posted - 2012.09.22 17:48:00 -
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Never got to meet him, but I'm sad to see him go. |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:07:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you.
People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy? |
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
223
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:11:00 -
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Aooz wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you. People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy?
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Pipa Porto
992
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Posted - 2012.09.22 21:12:00 -
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Aooz wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you. People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy?
Freedom of Speech is the right to express yourself without interference from the Government. When a private company sets up a soap box, they have the right to express themselves by limiting the forms of expression they want their name attached to.
Nobody argues that the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't have the right to picket funerals and memorial services, but the number of groups who have set themselves up to wall them off from the funerals show exactly how much esteem people hold the WBC in. Also, nobody argues with the fact that the WBC can't set up on the private property that the funeral is being held on.
The people trying to derail this thread with inflammatory rhetoric are the WBC. CCP is the owner of the private property. You're free to spout your shit anywhere you want, so long as it's not on CCP's property. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1069
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Posted - 2012.09.22 21:40:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you.
As it appears some people cannot read I am reposting Navigators statement. Be under no illusion, this is the last and final warning anyone will receive regarding this matter. Anyone who attempts to use this thread for anything other than its stated purpose will be reported immediately and action will be taken against them.
Show some respect or stay out. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.22 21:54:00 -
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*snip*
That was your last warning. Do not post again - ISD Type40. |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:32:00 -
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People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy? |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:05:00 -
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People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy? |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:12:00 -
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RIP VR
I hope "the man" didnt argue on entry. He woulda lost the argument. |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:35:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you. As it appears some people cannot read I am reposting Navigators statement. Be under no illusion, this is the last and final warning anyone will receive regarding this matter. Anyone who attempts to use this thread for anything other than its stated purpose will be reported immediately and action will be taken against them. Show some respect or stay out.
People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy? |
Aooz
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.09.23 00:05:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:I have re-opened this thread as many players still would like to post messages of condolenece.
I will be very candid and state that those who wish to derail this thread or use it for something other than a simple condolence message will likely face a very extended ban. Say something nice or say nothing at all.
Thank you. As it appears some people cannot read I am reposting Navigators statement. Be under no illusion, this is the last and final warning anyone will receive regarding this matter. Anyone who attempts to use this thread for anything other than its stated purpose will be reported immediately and action will be taken against them. Show some respect or stay out.
People who would like to stifle Free Speech are the very ones responsible for Vile Rat's death. As a moderator, who enjoy's stifling this inalienable human right so much that you do it as a job, do you see the irony of doing it in this thread? Do you see the parallel between Muslim extremists reacting to a video and your reaction within this thread? In another life could you see yourself raising the black flag of Salafism over a US embassy? |
T'Laar Bok
50
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:50:00 -
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O7 R.I.P Amphetimines are your friend. |
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