El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: JEK3 Edited by: JEK3 on 20/06/2011 22:34:13 Edited by: JEK3 on 20/06/2011 22:33:36 Edited by: JEK3 on 20/06/2011 22:30:56
Originally by: Rayce Farelle I understand that this may be going quite far about this saga but i was curious as to the legal standing of the rigged Final and the "metagaming" throughout.
Now... From what i have found out, is that alot of what is offically complainable, has to have breached EVE's (CCPs) code of conduct for the individual tournament or specific rules were broken UNLESS the tournament rules do not cover the offending actions, and then it is reserved back to the specific, Gambling or Fraud acts of each particular country.
For the UK, both the Gambling ACT of 2005 and the Fraud ACT of 2006, cover gaming , gambling and competitions. It is stated that if there is a prize competition on the outcome of a certain event, then match fixing laws should be enabled. Now what i want to know is there a case to say that term-of service was violated or whether e-sports like this one with real prizes are covered by any law.
Discuss....
I saw many stupid and childish answers, to what under a legal perspective is a very legit and interesting question. First of all, my view is thet UK laws aren't the ones to look at in this case. We should most probably look at Iceland's laws. I'm not aware of them, but they probably aren't very different from UK's ones in this case. Anyway, I'm almost sure in Iceland too there are some laws that are regulating competitions and that are going against fixing matches. What is to be considered first is the RL damage coming from fixing this competition's result. Thanks to the plex system, ISK are now convertible in "real money", therefore the damage is real and so are all the bets. The prizes offered by the sponsor are also real and convertible in real money. As real money is involved (and that's the case), real laws are kicking in. A fixing in the attibution of the prizes (and a fixing of the tournament result is that) can for sure be sued. If somebody is going to sue hydra for the fixing... ..well, that somebody could well win and the judge would kick hydra's ass big time. The position of CCP is not so clear, but of course something like saying "bribery (or metagaming)is in the rules of the tournament" would not make a judge very happy, as bribery cannot be tolerated when real money is involved. CCP should have took actions against the briberies. Their failure to do so (and eventually to report those briberies to a legit authority if they didn't) probably puts them in a very unconfortable position (but I'm not the one that has to judge this). I know something about laws, but I want to make clear I am not a lawyer. I'd like to hear the views of a legit lawyer (maybe from Iceland). Anyway I don't think the view of a legit lawyer would diffeer much from mine.
Cheers
JEK3
Servers are in London and thus UK law would most probably hold weight.
I just hope they go to single elimination in the next tournament, with a bracket system so that it doesn't matter who wins or losses you can't really change to the other side like they did this time which ultimately led to them both being in the final.
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