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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente
The 8th Order
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:34:00 -
[1]
Discuss 
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Maruyama Naomi
The 8th Order
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:34:00 -
[2]
I support this. 
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:35:00 -
[3]
Heh.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:35:00 -
[4]
With all his fanboys in tow please
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:36:00 -
[5]
Per his bio, CCP Zinfadel's motto: If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.
He needs to be taken out back and beaten like a red-headed stepchild with one of those monocles.
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Zed Jackelope
Original Sin.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:36:00 -
[6]
+1
I am not one of Awesome Possum's alts |
Feldar Spock
Eternal Guardians
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:37:00 -
[7]
Support.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:37:00 -
[8]
Can we tie Greyscale to him?
CCP: Consistency since 2003 |
Corbyn Wade
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:37:00 -
[9]
+1
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:38:00 -
[10]
Ooooh, a lynching...nice
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:38:00 -
[11]
Supported.
Also, make sure he's in a Titan when it happens.
CYVOK's Titan.
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Andreus Ixiris
CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 -
[12]
+1 But only if we get to put monocles on every "socket" on his body first.
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"Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you!
-- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 -
[13]
This along with who ever though mt was a good idea.
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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente
The 8th Order
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:39:00 -
[14]
I must admit... The eve gate might not work, lest we come back to find it festooned with sashes and sporting a camel hair coat.
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Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:40:00 -
[15]
I have to be honest: I really did not like his face during ATIX.
Trim the fat and flush the toxins out, CCP!
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:40:00 -
[16]
Edited by: Chewiest Bong on 22/06/2011 02:43:01
[ 2011.06.21 23:54:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > That is also the standard technique in the industry. In our case, it was exceptionally necessary due to the huge size of PLEX.
[ 2011.06.21 23:55:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > Incub: 12000 Aurum. The comma is an Americanism.
[ 2011.06.21 23:57:03 ] CCP Zinfandel > The store only has a few items in it so far. But more will be added. We hope to add a few pieces each week. We started with items which can be purchased and used without needing a special interface.
[ 2011.06.21 23:57:18 ] CCP Zinfandel > Painting a ship requires a little more work before we will be able to offer it. But it is planned.
[ 2011.06.21 23:57:26 ] Sofia Roseburn > Zinfandel, these prices are actually correct?
[ 2011.06.21 23:58:35 ] CCP Zinfandel > Sofia Roseburn - there will be a number of items at different prices over time. Also, these items will be offered on special from time to time. Some of the items are expensive.
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.
[ 2011.06.22 00:04:45 ] CCP Zinfandel > The selection of items in the store will change from time to time as the capsuleers purchase things and new items arrive (hopefully a few each week.)
[ 2011.06.22 00:05:22 ] CCP Zinfandel > Prices will vary between items and occasionally things will go on sale. Don't forget that the market also has a number of items for sale already and those prices should stabilize over time as well.
[ 2011.06.22 00:16:42 ] CCP Zinfandel > Chewiest - decorating will come eventually, hopefully later this year.
[ 2011.06.22 00:19:32 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are slowly receiving more items to sell in the store and we are saving things to introduce new items each week.
[ 2011.06.22 00:23:09 ] CCP Zinfandel > Elina Tan - we are introducing new clothing fashions in sets with themes. This set is themed "Military" and will continue for months. We also have fashion designers creating a line for "Corporate" and one for "Cyberpunk."
[ 2011.06.22 00:23:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Those will come later.
[ 2011.06.22 00:23:30 ] CCP Zinfandel > And they are being designed by RL fashion designers.
[ 2011.06.22 00:24:47 ] CCP Zinfandel > One of the fashion designers is New York based. Another is Reykjavik based.
[ 2011.06.22 00:27:07 ] CCP Zinfandel > JordanTwoDelta - you will see the ISK market prices stablize over time. Initially, hype will make people spend more than they should. I counsel a little patience. ;-)
[ 2011.06.22 00:29:26 ] CCP Zinfandel > Rion Deteisan - we are adding a little more each week (probably on Tuesdays.)
Oh, let's not forget this gem:
[00:44:42] CCP Zinfandel > Some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby. They enjoy investing in their hobby and find that it makes them feel more connected with their hobby. We want to support that for those players who want it.
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:41:00 -
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Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:41:00 -
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In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
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FatRaps
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:41:00 -
[19]
He should have just put the CQ at on the spashscreen at the start to save alot of wasted time and money.
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Mira Robinson
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:42:00 -
[20]
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[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
Are you f***ing kidding me?
Wow...
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Welcome to EVE. Ship happens. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:43:00 -
[21]
+1 and headshot behind barn
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Play with the best - die like the rest
starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
MrShooter
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:43:00 -
[22]
I will gladly pay 12,000 Aurum to see this
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Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:43:00 -
[23]
+1
If only Mitnal were here he could show CCP the errors of their ways... 
Originally by: anonymous
WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:44:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Cave Lord
Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
Can CCP get more broken?
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XIRUSPHERE
Gallente
The 8th Order
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Discrodia
+1
If only Mitnal were here he could show CCP the errors of their ways...
PLEX FOR MITNAL! He is truly missed
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Cave Lord
Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
He's the Head of Marketing/Sales @ CCP
He's doing a ****-poor job and criticising his work performance is NOT an personal attack. He just isn't very well suited for the job or he's just as out of touch as Bush was during Hurricane Katrina.
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KurnKuku
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:45:00 -
[27]
Edited by: KurnKuku on 22/06/2011 02:46:04
Originally by: Zachstar
In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
CCP is going to be rolling in the money, as opposed to facing bankruptcy. If anything, the people who implemented this are going to be getting big christmas bonuses :)
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:47:00 -
[28]
I think that based on his performance, he is detrimental for the company.
As a customer, I would totally support his removal.
Why?
The total disconnect from reality shown in the store should be explanation enough.
Think CCP went off the deep end with this? Is it just hilariously terrible?
Don't tell them, tell massively! |
Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:51:00 -
[29]
Fire him.
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Dimitri Fukoyama
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:53:00 -
[30]
Edited by: Dimitri Fukoyama on 22/06/2011 02:54:09
Originally by: KurnKuku
Edited by: KurnKuku on 22/06/2011 02:46:04
Originally by: Zachstar
In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
CCP is going to be rolling in the money, as opposed to facing bankruptcy. If anything, the people who implemented this are going to be getting big christmas bonuses :)
Thats still to be seen, eve is supposed to have somewhat of a smarter than average population. I doubt these idiotic 60$ monocles will sell like hotcakes. I unsubbed right away, its just discusting the contempt they show for their loyal playerbase and i was close to unsubbing already because the real expansion is dust and they want me to spend 400$ to play the real expansion.
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Amy Garzan
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 -
[31]
signed
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101010 The Answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything |
Oranen
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:54:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Per his bio, CCP Zinfadel's motto: If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.
He needs to be taken out back and beaten like a red-headed stepchild with one of those monocles.
Agree, in the world of EVE this expansion is analagous to New Coke.
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Dawnmist
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:55:00 -
[33]
Dear mister CCP Zinfandel. Even some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby and enjoy investing in their hobby, you can stick your ocular implant up to your you know where.
+1 for the topic. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:56:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:59:04
Someone who's only been with CCP for 1.5 year should not have such an influential position. He's a marketing/sales hack and it's obvious he knows barely anything about EVE at all.
He's the guy that put a vending-machine in the kitchen, then adds a jacuzzi to attract more people.
And as we can now barely cook in the kitchen anymore, we're 'allowed' to use a small gas-stove in the cellar... for now. 
Zinfandel and his ideas are poison.
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FunzzeR
The Wyld Hunt
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:56:00 -
[35]
Quote:
[00:44:42] CCP Zinfandel > Some people treat EVE Online not as a video game but as a hobby. They enjoy investing in their hobby and find that it makes them feel more connected with their hobby. We want to support that for those players who want it.
This is not Entropia Universe... He should be a dev for them...
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:57:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Nehaj on 22/06/2011 02:59:11
Edited by: Nehaj on 22/06/2011 02:57:54
Originally by: Katrina Cortez
Ooooh, a lynching...nice
Ostracism, not lynching. The procedure as old as, and inseparable from, democracy itself: Ostracism
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Your Stuff
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:58:00 -
[37]
First day at CCP 2010.01.08
Title/Department Senior Director, Sales & Marketing
Quote:
Quote:
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Motto If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson.
BioIÆve been playing RPGs since 1978 and playing MMORPGs since 2006Æs Meridian 59. Have worked in the video games industry since 1993. My favorite terroir for zinfandel is probably Paso Robles.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 02:59:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Fire him.
A company can't just fire someone and we do not have evidence this employee was responsible for this. The company needs to investigate the business department. And terminate those who have shown nothing but absolute lack of knowledge of their customers.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:03:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 22/06/2011 03:04:18
The web team, the marketing team, and the HR team while you're at it.
Probably best place to start is the HR team.
Originally by: Zachstar
And terminate those who have shown nothing but absolute lack of knowledge of their customers.
But.... His *job* is to bull**** us.
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Kez Aumer
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:04:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Zachstar
we do not have evidence this employee was responsible for this
He's head of the department. He's responsible alright.
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Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
[41]
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Discuss
Against, need some quality time with him, a vice and a drill before.
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Myxx
Atropos Group
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
[42]
Generally, I like most of the marketing people, strangely enough.
Zinfindel, though? So far, from what I've seen of him, by and large isn't impressive. I won't lynch him for this, because I and everyone else lacks proof this is his doing.
Though the dev who set prices needs to have his ass kicked, I agree. IF it does turn out to be Zinfindel... well... I don't think I need to explain what is probably expected by a great many people.
--
Originally by: CCP Explorer
(and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:06:00 -
[43]
Zifandel is just a Hero for Team Awesome to use as a front. He'll take the public praise if it's there to go around, and Team Awesome validate themselves through him. When things go **** up, it's his fault, and we get threads like this.
If you want heads to blame, start taking a good, long look at Torfifrans and how he actually relates to EVE Online outside of his ludicrous posturing outside of Alliance Tournament 9. Hint: He had absolutely nothing to do with championing The Little Things.
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:10:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Cave Lord
Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:10:00 -
[45]
CCP Zinfandel needs to be put on a very short leash, because he appears to be completely out of touch with reality. This is based on the comments I've seen him make so far.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:11:00 -
[46]
Originally by: KurnKuku
Edited by: KurnKuku on 22/06/2011 02:46:04
Originally by: Zachstar
In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
CCP is going to be rolling in the money, as opposed to facing bankruptcy. If anything, the people who implemented this are going to be getting big christmas bonuses :)
Doubtful. Highly doubtful.
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:15:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos
CCP Zinfandel needs to be put on a very short leash, because he appears to be completely out of touch with reality. This is based on the comments I've seen him make so far.
this SO much this
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 -
[48]
I doubt he deserves all the blame but these prices are totally absurd when you figure the real life currency they cost.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:16:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Evelgrivion
Zifandel is just a Hero for Team Awesome to use as a front. He'll take the public praise if it's there to go around, and Team Awesome validate themselves through him. When things go **** up, it's his fault, and we get threads like this.
If you want heads to blame, start taking a good, long look at Torfifrans and how he actually relates to EVE Online outside of his ludicrous posturing outside of Alliance Tournament 9. Hint: He had absolutely nothing to do with championing The Little Things.
ô A fish is cleaned from the tail, although it stinks from the head.ö
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Dasatei
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:19:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Ghoest
I doubt he deserves all the blame but these prices are totally absurd when you figure the real life currency they cost.
I think his removal might get the point across though
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Zeta Kalin
Large Rodent Hunters
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:20:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Cave Lord
Although I don't like ANYTHING that breaks in-game immersion, I can not and will not support a personal-attack on a particular person. Especially since it is their job. We need to take this up with CCP as a whole, not bash a particular person. Remember, he can't do anything unless it is approved. Firing him will solve *nothing*.
Dilution of personal responsibility may be exactly what's wrong with CCP. Someone had the power to veto all that ******ed crap and didn't, and if it backfires it's only fair that the one responsible for it pay for it, along with the people who originated the ideas.
If I was a CCP programmer busting my ass off to retain customers by fixing bugs, improving the UI and working on lag I'd sure be disgusted to be associated with that stuff. It's not a mythical CCP's responsibility, it's only a few people at CCP ruining the hard work of others, and the sooner they are out the door the better the company and the players are off.
Calling for people's head may be bad, but then no one forced him to ruin your customer experience.
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cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:22:00 -
[52]
Edited by: cerbus on 22/06/2011 03:25:00
If CCP gets rid of Zinfandel can I have him?
You guys have it all wrong, CCP would be worse without him.
cerbus
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:24:00 -
[53]
Signed
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:27:00 -
[54]
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
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Khysanth Onyx
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:28:00 -
[55]
KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:29:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:31:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Tobiaz
Edited by: Tobiaz on 22/06/2011 02:59:04
Someone who's only been with CCP for 1.5 year should not have such an influential position. He's a marketing/sales hack and it's obvious he knows barely anything about EVE at all.
He's the guy that put a vending-machine in the kitchen, then adds a jacuzzi to attract more people.
And as we can now barely cook in the kitchen anymore, we're 'allowed' to use a small gas-stove in the cellar... for now.
Zinfandel and his ideas are poison.
eve started going down hill about 1.5 years ago :( look at the last 3 major updates...
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Discrodia
Gallente
Symbiosis International
Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:32:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
We are the consumers. At the end of the day, we determine if CCP lives or dies. And so help us god if some dip**** in the business department ruined our game (Which they didn't, they just only added stuff that made it worse (Except the turrets and Maller, love those)) then if EVE starts hemorrhaging players CCP might very well need to take action against the problem.
Hell, CCP, I'd say that if you just revert the server to it's pre-Incarna state (Not counting aforementioned turrets and Maller) I would say this day might have been a hell of a lot brighter.
Originally by: anonymous
WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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REiiGN15
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
[59]
Only money CCP will get with this new Aurum bs is that of very sad individuals who do this as a hobby(addiction). Doesn't matter, it's not a game breaker for me. I'm honestly really not affected by the CQ stuff. PC can handle it but besides that I rarely go to stations anyhow. An answer given by a CCP dev does not need to include a smart-ass role-playing bs answer(referring to monocle answer).
Is CCP high on volcanic ash? Like everyone has said, fix your MT fast.
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What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. |
Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
But He's "been playing RPGs since 1978 and playing MMORPGs since 2006Æs Meridian 59. Have worked in the video games industry since 1993. My favorite terroir for zinfandel is probably Paso Robles."
Paso Robles
Paso Robles
Paso Roblessss .....
---Archipelago Theory---
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Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente
United Mining And Distribution
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:46:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible.
If he's not responsible (or at least partly responsible) for the virtual store item costs, why was he testing out offers and making posts like this during the development of incarna? And note that he uses 'we' instead of 'I' so there's definitely more than one CCP employee who sees a loyal fanbase as a financial opportunity instead of actual people
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:49:00 -
[62]
Originally by: CPP Zinfandel AKA Clueless Dip****
But the exchange rate is real. 1 PLEX converts into 3500 Aurum and that's not changing. And it's not variable. PLEX are just too big so we are breaking them down fairly small to give us lots of flexibility.
What this clueless mother****er doesn't realize is that PLEX has IRL monetary value. Someone needs to go back to business school, hell -- economics 101.
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Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:51:00 -
[63]
I don't know who this CCP Zinfadel person is nor do I know what he may or may not have done to anger you.
But I'm pro violence and I support throwing anyone into a hole, never to be seen again. 
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Ayieka
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:52:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
using in-game logic to explain real-life thing, classy.
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cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:53:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
It is his job to sell ideas from the upper management to the playerbase and to his peers, regardless of what he believes himself.
Zachstar is right.
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Missus Malaprop
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:53:00 -
[66]
clearly someone botched this mt concept and needs to be fired. but they wont be.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:54:00 -
[67]
Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st 
--
Originally by: CCP Elais
It was a great Frankenstein moment [...] to see the forum [...] come alive.
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Yvan Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:54:00 -
[68]
ya wasnt the microtransactions supposed to be for PACKS OF CLOTHES, not 80$ for a monocle
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Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente
United Mining And Distribution
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Posted - 2011.06.22 03:58:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Myra2007
Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st
I lol'd. The cha-ching at the end was perfect
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:00:00 -
[70]
Just punish 'em in the worst way possile: don't buy squat. It's that simple and it's what would trigger any practical reaction.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:03:00 -
[71]
gob smacked!
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Your Stuff
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:09:00 -
[72]
Originally by: cerbus
Edited by: cerbus on 22/06/2011 03:25:00
If CCP gets rid of Zinfandel can I have him?
You guys have it all wrong, CCP would be worse without him.
cerbus
DEV ALT SPOTTED. Look at posting history. You are busted and bear a striking resemblance to the DEV in question.
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Arklan1
Dunedain Rangers
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:10:00 -
[73]
while i fully recognize that he, or any single individual may ot be responsible for the aurum price insanity, his posts in the help channel make it clear he's ...well, to be frank, lost of mind and should not be the head of a department. this guy is who you want marketing your game? "come, spend more money for a pixel shirt then a real one!" i mean, really?
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Rixiu
The Inuits
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:16:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Rixiu on 22/06/2011 04:15:47
I approve of this service and/or product (the throw the ones responsible into the evegate never to return one. That includes you too hilmar ).
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:17:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Just punish 'em in the worst way possile: don't buy squat. It's that simple and it's what would trigger any practical reaction.
Quote:
You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.
Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 27 June 2011.
Already did, that's not including the other two accts I just canceled.
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Dentzu
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:18:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Dentzu on 22/06/2011 04:22:42
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
Congratulations, this may have been the single most insecure and intellectually incompetent post I'll read all week; high praise upon you, man.
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari
Instant Annihilation
Everto Rex Regis
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:19:00 -
[77]
Throw CCP Zulu with him - he is the product owner, so he is responsible for the business benefits from new features. We have seen nothing but ****e since he took over as SR Producer.
Quote:
Is walking around. In a station. On Tranquility. Oh yeah! #eveonline #tweetfleet
Quote:
Usual patch day shenanigans, always those last minute issues to smooth out before things are perfect
(http://twitter.com/ArnarHrafn)
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:30:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Zachstar
In my opinion CCP as a company needs to call into question the contribution the biz department has shown. Which in my opinion is not only zero but is adversely affecting the company.
In a company meeting I had recently. The discussion was on balancing customer service with productivity. If you sway too far to one you harm the other.
In this case in my opinion the departments ideas have just cracked the balance altogether providing negative customer PR and negative productivity for the company,
It is time to take action CCP. If your department does not want to do their job then it is time to terminate their employment.
Amen.
What's really sad part is that CCP have moved so far into this corner that they can't even see it themselves anymore.
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:40:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Dentzu
Edited by: Dentzu on 22/06/2011 04:22:42
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
Congratulations, this may have been the single most insecure and intellectually incompetent post I'll read all week; high praise upon you, man.
Thanks bro!
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Proats
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:46:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Can we tie Greyscale to him?
Hopefully.
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:51:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Throw CCP Zulu with him - he is the product owner, so he is responsible for the business benefits from new features. We have seen nothing but ****e since he took over as SR Producer.
Quote:
Is walking around. In a station. On Tranquility. Oh yeah! #eveonline #tweetfleet
Quote:
Usual patch day shenanigans, always those last minute issues to smooth out before things are perfect
(http://twitter.com/ArnarHrafn)
Wow - "Usual..." He thinks disasters are fun... "are perfect" Needs a serious reality check...
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Ivbeen Cloned
Caldari
Formidable Ops
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:52:00 -
[82]
+1
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:52:00 -
[83]
i forsee plex prices and aurum shop prices dropping 50% this week.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:53:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Myra2007
Zinfandelgate - A fictionalized account of the events that led to June, 21st
Everyone watch that now.
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Drakkin Telerix
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:56:00 -
[85]
Why dont the players just buy a controlling stock in CCP (assuming its a publicly traded company) and then instruct the CCP upper managment to fire above mentioned CCP employee?
Im sure with the multiple tens of thousands of active account holders around the world we could come up with enough assets to buy a controlling % of stock
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Bayushi Akemi
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:11:00 -
[86]
I also think CCP needs to examine their employees and cut out the fat that are employees who are contributing to some of the ideas that have been implemented since apocrypha.
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:13:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Drakkin Telerix
Why dont the players just buy a controlling stock in CCP (assuming its a publicly traded company) and then instruct the CCP upper managment to fire above mentioned CCP employee?
Im sure with the multiple tens of thousands of active account holders around the world we could come up with enough assets to buy a controlling % of stock
They're not a publicly traded company. Only a billionaire who is a huge Eve Fanboi might be able to buyout CCP.
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General Xenophon
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:16:00 -
[88]
"a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater."
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This http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12238558/a-fictionalized-account-of-the-events-that-led-to-june-21st |
LIOZTH
Caldari
Divide By Zero
Emergent Dawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:21:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Mira Robinson
Quote:
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
Are you f***ing kidding me?
Wow...
^ Seriously, couldn't agree with you more, let's bring a little reality into this, it was a nice idea to get some vanity items into play, but certainly not at this price point! CCP Zinfandel's judgment was detrimental to say the least.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:40:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Drakkin Telerix
Why dont the players just buy a controlling stock in CCP (assuming its a publicly traded company) and then instruct the CCP upper managment to fire above mentioned CCP employee?
Im sure with the multiple tens of thousands of active account holders around the world we could come up with enough assets to buy a controlling % of stock
Private.
Wonder why CCP has been pushed to killing off their own game?
Google Bj÷rg=lfur Thor Bj÷rg=lfsson.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:43:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Mira Robinson
Quote:
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
But it's okay to spend a measily 100m isk on +5 implant that goes in your BRAIN.
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Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:45:00 -
[92]
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
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Rachel Vend
Gallente
Zend Insurance
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:47:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Wonder why CCP has been pushed to killing off their own game?
If you think thats what they're doing, then let them.
BTW: Can I have your stuff?
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Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:47:00 -
[94]
Support.
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cerbus
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:49:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Elise Randolph
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
I've been trying to tell them that..
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Jean Louie
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:49:00 -
[96]
I just spent 50,000 aurum to make this post hopefully I can get this message across before the character lim
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:50:00 -
[97]
Keep CCP Zinfandel.
Monocles should be expensive, or else everyone will have one
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Jean Louie
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:52:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Keep CCP Zinfandel.
Monocles should be expensive, or else everyone will have one
Back to the abyss with you demon!
Only a CCP dev would name his character after spreadsheets!
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Chewiest Bong
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Elise Randolph
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
Still doesn't negate the fact that he's dumber than George W. Bush.
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Arista Shahni
Amarr
Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:55:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Arista Shahni on 22/06/2011 05:55:36
A monocle purchased with an "in game money type" that does nothing is expensive but implants that improve your overall performance purchased with another "in game money type" are cheap in comparison.
Still confused.
edit: and I see Jada already pointed that out. But yes. STILL confused. :)
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:57:00 -
[101]
Originally by: cerbus
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
Originally by: Zachstar
Y'all need to stop with the outright defamation of a CCP employee. You are NOT an employee of CCP so you have NO I repeat NO evidence an individual is responsible. The group or department or the company needs to be requested to take action to improve their relationship with the customers and in my OPINION one aspect of that is the termination of employment of those who are doing these things tho that is an internal matter.
Hey, moron. I'd just like to point out that we're not defaming him. We're just simply posting what he's actually TOLD US, the customer base. I'm not attacking his character, just his competence to perform his job title adequately. So **** off, eat **** and die. (Now that's a personal attack)
It is his job to sell ideas from the upper management to the playerbase and to his peers, regardless of what he believes himself.
Zachstar is right.
I don't know what his job is. CCP is a private company and is not any more required to disclose his terms of employment any more than mine. That is why I am asking for a company investigation into an entire department NOT an individual. The COMPANY needs to decide if the person in question has taken actions or made statements as a representative of CCP games which have done harm to the company and it's image. NOT US
Contracts and responsibilities of employees are VERY VERY complex. Also consider labor law and it gets even more complex. We do NOT have the whole picture therefore the correct thing to do is ask CCP to take action to fix its own company which in my opinion involves employment termination of those who cause harm to the company by doing things like this.
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Sathynos
Caldari
BSX Industries
Inver Brass
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:59:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
With all his fanboys in tow please
Both of them? He doesn't have any more than that.
--
"Say yes to pron on Concord billboards" campaing.
Eve mercenaries portal: http://www.eve-mercs.com |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:03:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Zachstar
The COMPANY needs to decide if the person in question has taken actions or made statements as a representative of CCP games which have done harm to the company and it's image.
He did just what they paid him to do....
Feed us ****.
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Alissa Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:25:00 -
[104]
I agree with the OP. Who ever thought walking in small enclosed unpopulated spaces (WISEUS) was a good idea should have one of their eyes plucked out and replaced with an 80$ monocle... And for the ******* that came up with these outragous prices I'm personally hoping for a double monocle (and perhaps a castration for the good of the gene pool).
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cyclobs
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: General Xenophon
"a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater."
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Nehaj
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:42:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Elise Randolph
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
O my brethren! With whom lieth the greatest danger to the whole human future? Is it not with the good and just?ù
ùAs those who say and feel in their hearts: "We already know what is good and just, we possess it also; woe to those who still seek thereafter!
And whatever harm the wicked may do, the harm of the good is the harmfulest harm!
And whatever harm the world-maligners may do, the harm of the good is the harmfulest harm!
O my brethren, into the hearts of the good and just looked some one once on a time, who said: "They are the Pharisees." But people did not understand him.
The good and just themselves were not free to understand him; their spirit was imprisoned in their good conscience. The stupidity of the good is unfathomably wise.
It is the truth, however, that the good must be Phariseesùthey have no choice!
The good must crucify him who deviseth his own virtue! That is the truth!
The second one, however, who discovered their countryùthe country, heart and soil of the good and just,ùit was he who asked: "Whom do they hate most?"
The creator, hate they most, him who breaketh the tables and old values, the breaker,ùhim they call the law-breaker.
For the goodùthey cannot create; they are always the beginning of the end:ù
ùThey crucify him who writeth new values on new tables, they sacrifice unto themselves the futureùthey crucify the whole human future!
The goodùthey have always been the beginning of the end.- 
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Jefferson H Clay
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Posted - 2011.06.22 06:55:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
There is a word for this. That word is delusional. No, the pixels on a screen don't actually care if it's an expensive solid gold trimed set of pixels or a rusty spoon.
If CCP Zinfandel thinks the pixels care one iota I suggest the rest of CCP club together and send him or her off for professional psychiatric help.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:01:00 -
[108]
Developing content only for those willing to be milked is bad business. Fire Zinfandel already and turn The Noble Exchange into a secondary LP-Like store.
_____________________________________
Haruhiist since December 2008
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Dentzu
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Posted - 2011.06.22 07:12:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Jefferson H Clay
Originally by: Chewiest Bong
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
There is a word for this. That word is delusional. No, the pixels on a screen don't actually care if it's an expensive solid gold trimed set of pixels or a rusty spoon.
If CCP Zinfandel thinks the pixels care one iota I suggest the rest of CCP club together and send him or her off for professional psychiatric help.
Another gem! And within a few pages of the other! Delusional? I'd almost call it delicious irony, your comment, but perhaps you are aware of how monstrously complicit it is.
You see, he was being facetious. Which is fine, this is a game, a bit of brevity is to be expected - encouraged, even. Vanity items can cost whatever the hell CCP wants them to cost; the argument that, "OH QQ +5 IMPLANTS IN YOUR BRAIN COST LESS THAN THIS" is almost comical, the idea that it should be the other way around.... bwahahahahahahahahahaha.
Do you know what that would do to the game? When, in order to perform to your maximum capacity within the game, you must spend an inordinate amount of real life currency?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The single most flaunted aspect of a PvP game is skill, and when you have to pay to be the best, no amount of skill can be said to be involved. And it's been suggested in this thread that skill should be paid with real life currency...
...
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This thread is rich.
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Lord o'Darkness
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:09:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Lord o''Darkness on 22/06/2011 08:09:41
Edited by: Lord o''Darkness on 22/06/2011 08:09:20
Supported.
Remember, his motto is "If all it cost you was money, it was a cheap lesson."
No, really: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=author&p=CCP%20Zinfandel
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Frau Klaps
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:14:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Fire him.
~~~
(ಠ_ృ)
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Tarak Muritar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:19:00 -
[112]
+1
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Lucilla Giulia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:20:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Mira Robinson
Quote:
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
Are you f***ing kidding me?
Wow...
Ehi you guys were searching for immersion? there you are, a full roleplay explanation for the REAL money you should pay to put some pixels in yr eve's pixeled head
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:23:00 -
[114]
Screw throwing him into the Eve gate! Put him in a spacesuit, tie him to the front of an interceptor and then eject about 20km from a station. If it coasts to a complete stop just before the station he can look forward to starving and freezing to death, if not, skwish!
-----
Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
Tragic smelting accidents.
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:23:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Hannibal Ord on 22/06/2011 08:27:19
Asking for people to be fired is pretty harsh guys.
And to be honest, the issue is not him personally but there just seems to be a huge issue with the CCP devs just being totally out of touch with the gamers.
They say they read the forums and take our feedback. They really ****ing dont.
Think about it, how many other issues in this game are being ignored? Blasters? Assault Frigates? I mean jesus the ****ing Super Carrier design? FW? There are countless issues that to be honest, need to be sorted ASAP and all the devs should equally be in the firing line. For the moment, just don't use the store... it is outrageous but hardly game breaking compared to the myriad of issues CCP just doesn't give a **** about anymore.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:24:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Elise Randolph
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
But a lousy EVE Dev, and that's the only thing that really matters.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:25:00 -
[117]
Originally by: cerbus
Originally by: Elise Randolph
CCP Zinfandel is a good man
I've been trying to tell them that..
Being a "good" man and being absolute ****ing disgrace to your chosen profession are two different things.
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General Jord
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:46:00 -
[118]
The entire strategic marketing division of CCP to be off the rails and high on crack...
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CCP Guard
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:56:00 -
[119]
Seriously guys, lay off the personal attacks and make do with constructive criticism of policy and mechanics. We'll listen to that. Not to this.
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