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Mike deVoid
Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:15:00 -
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I almost love how there is as much politics and butthurt about RL EVE as there is in the f*cking game. -----
Quote: The maximum acceptable limit of MT in EVE is vanity items + the ability to buy things already created legitimately by another player.
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Tejal Charu
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH This "leak" is hysterical.
I can't believe people actually believe this. It's completely unprofessional, cartoonish, and plays on every EvE bittervets fears and paranoia like harp strings.
If you believe this is real, and that this represents CCP opinion, please do the EvE community a favor and just quit the game now.
No, not "quit the game" but stay on the forums complaining needlessly as if CCP cares, just quit, walk away, and stop posting. Go find something better to do than whining about a GAME that you've decided is horrible but need to stick around and make worse with your rude, useless, trolling. CCP has said in plain english they ignore ****heads but respond to constructive criticism.
.....this is like New Eden's version of the Barack Obama birther phenomena. Complete with fake documents "proving" that CCP is making a greedy money grab. This is rooted in simple emotional outcry, nothing else. Just as the birthers will cry foul no matter what gets posted as evidence, so the naysayers will whine about monocles destroying their spaceship game.
Lets be honest, all of you who believe this to be true, will not care if CCP comes out and responds, even though they wont. You wouldn't believe them. Stop demanding it like them saying "not us" is all you need to be convinced.
Then let them prove us wrong! Where are their voices? I want to hear CCP say "No, this is bull****, we will never bend EVE over and **** it."
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger What concerns me the most is that CCP has not made any reply to these claims... In the aftermath of the mess this latest expansion made, and with the degree of community backlash so far, this couldn't have come out at a worse time for CCP (real or fake). I would think they would have quickly prepared some kind of statement by now.
The only statement I've seen from CCP was from CCP Soundwave, confirming that he is reading this thread and monitoring the player feedback. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Jitaherp Derp
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH This "leak" is hysterical.
I can't believe people actually believe this. It's completely unprofessional, cartoonish, and plays on every EvE bittervets fears and paranoia like harp strings.
If you believe this is real, and that this represents CCP opinion, please do the EvE community a favor and just quit the game now.
No, not "quit the game" but stay on the forums complaining needlessly as if CCP cares, just quit, walk away, and stop posting. Go find something better to do than whining about a GAME that you've decided is horrible but need to stick around and make worse with your rude, useless, trolling. CCP has said in plain english they ignore ****heads but respond to constructive criticism.
.....this is like New Eden's version of the Barack Obama birther phenomena. Complete with fake documents "proving" that CCP is making a greedy money grab. This is rooted in simple emotional outcry, nothing else. Just as the birthers will cry foul no matter what gets posted as evidence, so the naysayers will whine about monocles destroying their spaceship game.
Lets be honest, all of you who believe this to be true, will not care if CCP comes out and responds, even though they wont. You wouldn't believe them. Stop demanding it like them saying "not us" is all you need to be convinced.
Did you miss the part where Liang confirmed it, or the part where the original unedited version confirmed it, or the part where the document file information confirmed it, or the part where Riverini confirmed it, or the part where CSM confirmed it, or the part where CCP Soundwave confirmed that hes monitoring it, or the part where Chribba confirmed it?
So which one is it?
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:16:00 -
[425]
Seriously CCP. You money grabbing bastards.
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:16:00 -
[426]
Edited by: Judicator Saturnius on 23/06/2011 00:17:10
Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH This "leak" is hysterical.
I can't believe people actually believe this. It's completely unprofessional, cartoonish, and plays on every EvE bittervets fears and paranoia like harp strings.
If you believe this is real, and that this represents CCP opinion, please do the EvE community a favor and just quit the game now.
No, not "quit the game" but stay on the forums complaining needlessly as if CCP cares, just quit, walk away, and stop posting. Go find something better to do than whining about a GAME that you've decided is horrible but need to stick around and make worse with your rude, useless, trolling. CCP has said in plain english they ignore ****heads but respond to constructive criticism.
.....this is like New Eden's version of the Barack Obama birther phenomena. Complete with fake documents "proving" that CCP is making a greedy money grab. This is rooted in simple emotional outcry, nothing else. Just as the birthers will cry foul no matter what gets posted as evidence, so the naysayers will whine about monocles destroying their spaceship game.
Lets be honest, all of you who believe this to be true, will not care if CCP comes out and responds, even though they wont. You wouldn't believe them. Stop demanding it like them saying "not us" is all you need to be convinced.
White knight ITT
Also, accounts sacked. Thank you for the fun while it lasted CCP. But we no longer see eye to eye.
vOv
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jitaherp Derp
Did you miss the part where Liang confirmed it, or the part where the original unedited version confirmed it, or the part where the document file information confirmed it, or the part where Riverini confirmed it, or the part where CSM confirmed it, or the part where CCP Soundwave confirmed that hes monitoring it, or the part where Chribba confirmed it?
So which one is it?
Where is Chribba's post, I missed that one?
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:18:00 -
[428]
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
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FunzzeR
The Wyld Hunt Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH This "leak" is hysterical.
I can't believe people actually believe this. It's completely unprofessional, cartoonish, and plays on every EvE bittervets fears and paranoia like harp strings.
If you believe this is real, and that this represents CCP opinion, please do the EvE community a favor and just quit the game now.
No, not "quit the game" but stay on the forums complaining needlessly as if CCP cares, just quit, walk away, and stop posting. Go find something better to do than whining about a GAME that you've decided is horrible but need to stick around and make worse with your rude, useless, trolling. CCP has said in plain english they ignore ****heads but respond to constructive criticism.
.....this is like New Eden's version of the Barack Obama birther phenomena. Complete with fake documents "proving" that CCP is making a greedy money grab. This is rooted in simple emotional outcry, nothing else. Just as the birthers will cry foul no matter what gets posted as evidence, so the naysayers will whine about monocles destroying their spaceship game.
Lets be honest, all of you who believe this to be true, will not care if CCP comes out and responds, even though they wont. You wouldn't believe them. Stop demanding it like them saying "not us" is all you need to be convinced.
CCP Zinfandel alt spotted PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Isil Rahsen Lol http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/rumour-leaked-document-shows-ccps-microtransaction-plans/
Oh boy, here we go! Internet MMOG media go for it.
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Hannibal Ord
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 -
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And to think that most of this rage could have been avoided if you just listened to the people who wanted a ****ing hanger view as well as CQ....
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Originally by: Isil Rahsen Lol http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/rumour-leaked-document-shows-ccps-microtransaction-plans/
Oh boy, here we go! Internet MMOG media go for it.
All this Press is going to TURN OFF potential NEW CUSTOMERS.
Bad news for CCP.
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tla Atij on 23/06/2011 00:20:34 Anyone got matches?
Isn't that CCP Soundwave?
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Urgg Boolean They can lose all current players, and still make increasing profits by attracting fans from LOTRO, WoW, Guild Wars, KotOR, StarTrek Online, and whatever else. Bottom line: their game design so far has attracted players in the 10Ks; to take a bigger market share, they need to change their model to accommodate the market research. It's business, pure and simple. <visions of Ebenezer Scrooge>
Niche players are willing to put up with horrible bugs, horrible interface, etc. Mainstream game players, no.
I agree though, that what you say may be what CCP is thinking. They're insane to think that, but then the past week has made me realize that they really are, very likely, insane.
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Jitaherp Derp
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
I heard cancelling your subscription now requires a 10000 Aurum processing fee.
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Faelune
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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I think they don't grade how are so muddy and cristaline their E3 prices, and their fake duty is unfair for little sharky jaws who're here incoming because a day, these healthy eaters, like me, heard: "Eve is harsh, Eve is Bloody, Eve is pain, Eve is toughness, Eve is honor, Eve is brutal, etc..." Can I repell now with a bloody meat saltying by angel dust?
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
My accounts are canceled and they show the remaining game time. At any time I can click "undo cancel subscription" from drop down menu, this is new. Or I can add game time via plex without need for credit card. Or I can change my subscription plan and CCP will generously reactivate my account and immediately charge my credit card (thus kept on file).
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45 Longslide
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:21:00 -
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Bump to make sure this stays up top.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:21:00 -
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Rofl you guys have an employee loyalty score?
That's about as bad as it gets. I wouldn't even consider working for a company that pulled that kind of ****.
Maybe if your methods weren't so underhanded and greedy lately you wouldn't have to test your employees for loyalty...
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Republica Winder
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Manos Heimenbarger What concerns me the most is that CCP has not made any reply to these claims... In the aftermath of the mess this latest expansion made, and with the degree of community backlash so far, this couldn't have come out at a worse time for CCP (real or fake). I would think they would have quickly prepared some kind of statement by now.
They would have closed/deleted this thread and posted a denial if it were fake.
It's real alright. Just as real as the backlash CCP is getting. Really, in the wake of what Incarna is, a CASH SHOP (and wildly overpriced one at that) NOT AN EXPANSION, is this internal newsletter really any worse for CCP than the game itself at this moment?
It really just amounts to some gasoline on the already raging fire.
As I said earlier, NOTHING but an apology and an IMMEDIATE withdraw of the cash shop, the refund of Aurum, and the seeding of all items as blueprints is going to save EVE at this point. Incarna has reached critical mass.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 00:24:55
Originally by: Caladan Broood
Originally by: Miilla
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
My accounts are canceled and they show the remaining game time. At any time I can click "undo cancel subscription" from drop down menu, this is new. Or I can add game time via plex without need for credit card. Or I can change my subscription plan and CCP will generously reactivate my account and immediately charge my credit card (thus kept on file).
Thanks.
It's a bad sign when the rat's erm, TROLLS, leave the ship first.
(I have also suspended my Eve Sdk and Apps development)
Get the hint.
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Nilania Telshua
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nilania Telshua on 23/06/2011 00:24:19
Actually this is passage is pretty much in line with the propaganda Zinfandel fed us. It saddens me to say so, but the document becomes more and more authentic to me.
The worst thing is, the last line: "If players can spend money more directly on our game, their enjoyment will heighten and they'll bond more strongly with it."
Is CCP really that unaware about the nature of its playerbase.
We are not the average MMO crowd.
Most people here are rather well educated and have a certain degree of self-reflection, even if we often choose not to use it on the forums... The most insulting thing about that text is its absolute character:
The Players Will...
F.U. CCP
Originally by: Tla Atij More hilarity from the document:
Quote:
[ 2011.06.22 00:00:44 ] CCP Zinfandel > The Looking Glass Ocular Implant (right/gold) is fairly expensive. It's also a machine being installed into your eye and one would not want to buy a cheap version of something to go in your face.
[ 2011.06.22 00:04:15 ] CCP Zinfandel > Hello Kyle - we have been talking about the prices regularly in here. There are expensive items in the shop. Noble Appliances Corporation opened these shops particularly to target the wealthy capsuleer community.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
So, what happens when we click on CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION in account management?
Does that`just stop the REOCCURRING PAYMENT? The remanining game time continues, does the CC details get removed?
What happens once the time is up? We just have to select a new method of payment to continue?
I canceled just the day before the new site, so mileage may vary - Cancel simply turns of recurring subscription, you have however many days would have been left till your next payment. I suspect, in your case, adding a PLEX will push that date out.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: XIRUSPHERE on 23/06/2011 00:24:31 Hey CCP, when you guys tank as you deserve, can you at least have the decency to release the IP and give us the client circa RMR so we can play this game the way it was meant to be?
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:24:00 -
[445]
Quote: Their newsletter isn't actually all that secret, there are copies lying around the lobby of their Iceland office.
QQ more ***s lmao. _________________________________________________
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Grog Barrel on 23/06/2011 00:24:38
Originally by: Republica Winder
Originally by: leth ghost i think ccp must have taken note how there new buddys sony dealt with the psn pr and try to emulate it lol
Or John Smedley convinced Hillmar that your customers love you more and spend more money when you do things to their game that they don't want.
In europe is commonly to see companies giving a flying fnck about customer's satisfaction; probably an issue bound to the continent (i blame the rome empire for the matter, as scandinavians seem to be an exception). Companies here are so well protected and confederated with eachother "against" customers so to speak, that, if Adam Smith was still alive, he would never, ever have put a single word out outside of his mouth regarding the competitiveness, "free market" and everything what it implies.
It's somehow continetal-wide issue if you ask me. Probably stronger in loliceland, if you care to read the cultural observations by the mittani and read some background of their pre- economic crisis welfare.
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Republica Winder
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kuronaga Rofl you guys have an employee loyalty score?
That's about as bad as it gets. I wouldn't even consider working for a company that pulled that kind of ****.
Maybe if your methods weren't so underhanded and greedy lately you wouldn't have to test your employees for loyalty...
Telling your bosses that this change of direction amounts to company suicide is showing more company loyalty than chanting along with management that this is the greatest thing EVAH!
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Cailais
Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tla Atij Edited by: Tla Atij on 23/06/2011 00:20:34 Anyone got matches?
Isn't that CCP Soundwave?
yup.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011
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Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:26:00 -
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just counted 20 people ITT cancelling their accounts...
Can't say I blame them!
CCP devs are OMINOUSLY quiet tonight... even more than usual for this time of night...
Also ITT: People realising that X:Rebirth is coming out this winter! >:D the only massive sandbox space game to ever even closely rival eve:
http://www.deepsilver.com/en/news/
I'll be buying at release... especially if this ccp episode continues...
I'm just waiting for one of eve's major players to quit now... Milia already psuedo-has done... Can't say i'm far behind if CCP doesn't come up with a REALLY good explanation. And an explanation it will be... because if they try to justify it all? it's bye bye internet space ships and bye bye over-inflated icelandic games company. -------
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Nikki West
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Posted - 2011.06.23 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tla Atij Edited by: Tla Atij on 23/06/2011 00:20:34 Anyone got matches?
Isn't that CCP Soundwave?
It would appear so ...
An uphill battle hmm?
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