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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei
You know, I'm all for Barbie In Space, and going to a virtual mall and play dress-up and such. And all in good fun. But buyimg faction standing and such? No effing way we should put up with that! That's a deal-breaker for me, on a very deep level.
This in a nutshell. I don't give a **** if the boots and monocles cost like $800 or whatever...as long as regular game mechanics can't be bought, then I don't care. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |
Hesperius
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nilania Telshua In any other case denying the existence of a document distributed between 500 employees in open circulations would be... unwise...
So one more time, what is so terrible about this news letter?
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:20:00 -
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Sorry if it's been pointed out already but I liked this bit from the editor's spiel at the beginning:
"See this issue's virtual goods sales argument on monetization versus design integrity on page 6."
Soundwave came down on the monetization side.
Integrity was on the other side.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Nilania Telshua In any other case denying the existence of a document distributed between 500 employees in open circulations would be... unwise...
So one more time, what is so terrible about this news letter?
The idea that someone, in the future, might destroy my ship because they paid $50 for turrets with 10% extra damage.
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Caladan Broood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
Sorta refreshing and not playing. Saw your edit for larger text too
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Caladan Broood
Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
Sorta refreshing and not playing. Saw your edit for larger text too
I also kinda needed more bandwidth for the forum :) I even disabled pictures for faster loading :) lol
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Le Sabre
Gallente Forced aggressions Lawful Insanity
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 -
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I don't like mt's in any online game even if its free to play, its worse when we already pay a sub per acc in the first place. If that pdf or its content is genuine then my acc's will be unsubbed along with the many other loyal eve player acc's.
Seriously CCP, this is Eve not the endless bloody 'Sim's' expansions. Listen to the guys that have kept your company profitable during one of, if not 'the' worst recession ever to hit modern society, if you sell out today then you'll be sold off tomorrow.
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Grog Barrel
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Originally by: Miilla This is their intentions, not all may be implemented, it depends on the reactions.
They will implement what they can get away with.
That is the game plan.
Given how they threw out the insane $99 developer license and then backpedaled, as well as other recent changes, that seems to be the entirety of their business plan: "Do the worst thing possible, packpedal until the rage calms down to acceptable levels".
Elasticity. Isn't it wonderful?
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Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
yeah i'm not.... just waiting on ccp to come clean with its customers (us)... -------
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
I'm not logged in. Incarna has nothing for me. The forums on the other hand? Fire pretty.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste Given how they threw out the insane $99 developer license and then backpedaled, as well as other recent changes, that seems to be the entirety of their business plan: "Do the worst thing possible, packpedal until the rage calms down to acceptable levels".
So, CCP said they were not doing with the $99 dev license for API AFTER they said it was going to be?
Sorry, I thought this was public. There are rumors this will be revised / backpedaled, but I guess CCP decided not to fix that blunder until after they made these as well? ______________________________
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Sakura Zendragon
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: AkJon Ferguson Sorry if it's been pointed out already but I liked this bit from the editor's spiel at the beginning:
"See this issue's virtual goods sales argument on monetization versus design integrity on page 6."
Soundwave came down on the monetization side.
Integrity was on the other side.
So the Associate Game Designer chooses monetization over design integrity... just great.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: XIRUSPHERE Keep taking the p.iss out of em, it's unfortunate the player base cannot demand an audit of the company as a whole. Id rather watch this place go up in flames then sit by idly while market interest say screw your benefactor.
Then the CSM should demand a clarification. Because if ft's real, then, indeed, it's Game Over. Pure & Simple. --
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Cosmoes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
Me, not logging in just refreshing this thread while I cancel my accounts. Gonna study for exam in meantime. Probably try out perpetuum or maybe talk to my friends who've been trying to drag me into WoW for a long time. At least until Skyrim comes out. ------------------- piccy |
Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:27:00 -
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How is the Icelandic economy doing CCP?
Is it doing that well that you can do big gambles and potentially lose?
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Gwenywell Shumuku on 23/06/2011 01:28:45
Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Nilania Telshua In any other case denying the existence of a document distributed between 500 employees in open circulations would be... unwise...
So one more time, what is so terrible about this news letter?
If you need us to explain it for you , then i congratulate you, as you will be truly happy with everything CCP will do to the EVE franchise. Good for you, have fun.
But forgive me (and others) who we are unwilling to let go so easely on a hobby that worked perfectly fine (it even grew) for 8 years. They want to experiment? WOD is that way...they can test it there, make MT-heaven out of it.
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:21:10
So, who wants to play Eve?
Who is actually logged in right now? Or are you just constant refreshing this page and logged off the client for more refresh rate?
Me, I kinda feel sick of it and not wanting to bother with the game atm.
Uninstalled on my primary pc, keeping a copy on the laptop to biomass when the time is right.
vOv
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DickbeardThePirate
Gallente Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:28:00 -
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Y'know what this reminds me of
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPYdgy35KA
at 2:15
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Erichan
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:28:00 -
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They are.. they just want you to pay for development for it with MT.
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Technovar
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hesperius
Originally by: Nilania Telshua In any other case denying the existence of a document distributed between 500 employees in open circulations would be... unwise...
So one more time, what is so terrible about this news letter?
It's been pointed out to you over and over. Buying advantage by paying to manipulate game mechanics and bypass the player-run economy will destroy that economy, through direct damage and by making the industrialists that keep things going leave. Are you willfully ignoring this?
Vanity items only are mostly meaningless, except that making the real-money items immune to destruction/drop is a slippery slope as well.
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Kueijin Legion
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:29:00 -
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So if a lame ass looking monocle is going for as high as it is, and they plan to sell ammo and other useful items just WTH are they gonna charge? They really hired an economist to help them and come out with crap like this? What did they get the elcheapo economist that had zero experience with MMOs?
I quit WoW after playing for six years because the devs currently in charge are such obnoxious asshats. I put a lot of time into my characters over those six years and I never thought I would quit WoW until Blizz closed the servers down. Just goes to show what happens when game companies refuse to listen to their customers while acting like condescending and rude little elitists.
I've spent years playing EVE as well, but crap like this makes me wonder if I'll stick around EVE let alone the WoD MMO which before now I was anxiously awaiting. EVE is a niche game as will the WoD one be. Alienating your loyal fanbase that stuck with you for all these years just as you are risking a lot on multiple ventures simultaneously is a pretty boneheaded decision IMO.
CCP learn from the mistakes of previous MMOs. NGE crippled SWG because the devs didn't listen to their players. Cataclysm has driven away more players from WoW than running ICC for a year did because the Blizz devs didn't listen. Noticing a trend here? When devs think they know what's better for players than the players do or just don't give a **** and go for the money grab game quality be damned lots of players get ****ed and leave.
EVE players are a pretty no BS bunch. If you **** up they're gonna call you on it. Ignore them at your own risk CCP. |
Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 01:33:27
How dependant on EVE is CCP?
From that document, EVE is EXTREMELY VERY dependant on it.
At what levels of cancellations will it affect them financially?
Will it make WoD unfeasible? Dust die? We know that Dust is soon to be released, how about WoD? Can our cancellations affect that hard?
Where is that red line?
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Tla Atij
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kueijin Legion Alienating your loyal fanbase that stuck with you for all these years just as you are risking a lot on multiple ventures simultaneously is a pretty boneheaded decision IMO. [...] EVE players are a pretty no BS bunch. If you **** up they're gonna call you on it. Ignore them at your own risk CCP.
What he said.
"FEARLESS" could be "bankrupt" too. |
Monstress
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kueijin Legion So if a lame ass looking monocle is going for as high as it is, and they plan to sell ammo and other useful items just WTH are they gonna charge? They really hired an economist to help them and come out with crap like this? What did they get the elcheapo economist that had zero experience with MMOs?
The issue with selling ammo, ships or similar is not the price, it's that it foregoes the industry process and eliminates the player economy.
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Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
How dependant on EVE is CCP?
At what levels of cancellations will it affect them financially?
Will it make WoD unfeasible? Dust die?
Where is that red line?
Tbh, if things go sour, they will try to licence "Carbon" out to get WoD rolling. Dust would just become a nobrain-shooter on the PS3 without EVE connection, maybe selling enough copies to get half dev-costs back in.
CCP could survive, if WoD is on track, which i doubt at this point (read the last page, where they state a few times that for now there is no gamedesign in place).
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gwenywell Shumuku
Originally by: Miilla
How dependant on EVE is CCP?
At what levels of cancellations will it affect them financially?
Will it make WoD unfeasible? Dust die?
Where is that red line?
Tbh, if things go sour, they will try to licence "Carbon" out to get WoD rolling. Dust would just become a nobrain-shooter on the PS3 without EVE connection, maybe selling enough copies to get half dev-costs back in.
CCP could survive, if WoD is on track, which i doubt at this point (read the last page, where they state a few times that for now there is no gamedesign in place).
WoD has no gamedesign? Sounds like it hasn't started yet lol
In short, Carbon offers what over competitors? They would have to compete on price, something which we know CCP cannot do.
I think they would go under.
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Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:37:00 -
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Indeed... fearless.... kind of an ironic title for their internal newsletter...
Fearless: Bold, Brave, Intrepid
But there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity... best not take risks with your "golden goose" now ccp... delete this Aurum and NeX store from the game and be done with this nonsense. -------
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:37:00 -
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I also liked this bit from the editor:
"However as a subscription based golden goose, EVE needs to incorporate the virtual goods sales model to allow for future revenue -- revenue to fund our other titles, revenue for its developer..."
Someone remind me how that goose story ends? Doesn't the farmer redeem a few plex and buy an overpriced axe from the noble exchange or something?
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Republica Winder
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Posted - 2011.06.23 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Heimdallofasgard Indeed... fearless.... kind of an ironic title for their internal newsletter...
Fearless: Bold, Brave, Intrepid
But there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity... best not take risks with your "golden goose" now ccp... delete this Aurum and NeX store from the game and be done with this nonsense.
The more accurate word is Hubris.
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