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Rinia Altir
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:54:00 -
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You can exchange $$ for PLEX, PLEX for ISK; and effectively right back in the reverse. Throwing in an additional currency that can also be exchanged around in a similar manner really seems pointless. Just make the vanity items available via ISK and call a goose a goose.
The real danger here is when itÆs made easier and/or encouraged for people who spend extra $$ to get ahead beyond vanity in-game. Sure, the current vanity prices are a bit absurd, but that isnÆt the core of the problem. The core issue is that each addition of functionality for RMT (real money being used to buy in-game items), the game gets one step closer to death. We can't yet directly buy a fleet of super caps for cash, but close enough via PLEXes. The corruption is already in the game; it has been for a while. This is the case for most any MMO because of the gold/isk farmers that are a plague on society. Using PLEX to create a legit method to do this could be seen as a necessary evil to reduce the profitability of illegal isk selling. However, expanding on said necessary evil is entirely unnecessary û just more evil. So instead of fighting RMT for the sake of the game and players, the intent seems to be to simply steal the illegal business from the farmers and profit from it.
And it doesnÆt even stop there. New framework on how to utilize this, normally illegal, source of income is being built to squeeze even more money out of it.
This reminds me of a cop busting criminals and taking the contraband as their own and selling it. Only in this case, thereÆs nothing stopping the cop because they own this town.
ItÆs poison all the same, regardless of the source. This is definitely a dangerous path to go down.
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Rinia Altir
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:18:00 -
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Anyone else see this?
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Rinia Altir
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:41:00 -
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What, not even a pony reply?
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Lirael Dyrim
Gallente In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:43:00 -
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Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:45:00 -
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I don't think anyone has a problem with vanity items being available via micro-transactions (at the right price). The issue is if you'll be able to gain an advantage over other players by buying game effecting equipment.
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Rinia Altir
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Arrs Grazznic I don't think anyone has a problem with vanity items being available via micro-transactions (at the right price). The issue is if you'll be able to gain an advantage over other players by buying game effecting equipment.
That's my point. PLEX is already a method of players being able to buy game effecting equipment via real money. Perhaps at a point in time it was a necessary evil to battle RMT. And rather than leaving it at that, it's being expanded upon. Even if it is just extra fluff at this point, it could easily go even further.
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Zverofaust
Gallente Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Arrs Grazznic I don't think anyone has a problem with vanity items being available via micro-transactions (at the right price). The issue is if you'll be able to gain an advantage over other players by buying game effecting equipment.
It isn't even this, because by spending real life cash on PLEX and selling that in-game for ISK you can already gain an advantage by buying game effecting equipment with real money. Therefore the problem is in fact that these items are so insanely high in price, which goes far further to ensure that they are unattainable to the vast majority of Eve players.
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:48:00 -
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It seems to be because they want to use up surplus PLEX from ingame and it might not work that way if they allow you to use RL currency for Aurum.
Plus it also means you are likely to have to buy more PLEX for the Aurum you need. Companies tend to set the price so that you buy more currency (Aurum) than required for the item you want, which leaves an amount of currency (Aurum) left on your account tempting you to buy more so you can spend the bit you have.
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Glyken Touchon
Gallente Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Katra Novac Plus it also means you are likely to have to buy more PLEX for the Aurum you need. Companies tend to set the price so that you buy more currency (Aurum) than required for the item you want, which leaves an amount of currency (Aurum) left on your account tempting you to buy more so you can spend the bit you have.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:53:00 -
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I understand to what you are speaking. Many argued the same points back when PLEX was launched and ever since, even at first word of MTs and CCP's assurance they would not allow MTs in Eve. (I do find it funny that some fanboys run around saying it won't get worse ... yeah, right.)
I suppose many do not feel they were listened to then, and likely won't be listened to now. So perhaps explains the lightness of the response.
If you want a slightly different angle on it, from a purely monetary theory perspective, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535164&page=2#37.
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Arrs Grazznic
Poena Executive Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Arrs Grazznic on 23/06/2011 23:56:23
Originally by: Zverofaust
Originally by: Arrs Grazznic I don't think anyone has a problem with vanity items being available via micro-transactions (at the right price). The issue is if you'll be able to gain an advantage over other players by buying game effecting equipment.
It isn't even this, because by spending real life cash on PLEX and selling that in-game for ISK you can already gain an advantage by buying game effecting equipment with real money.
... which comes from other players who have acquired the items. MTs which allow you instant access to resources while cutting out the player economy will break this game.
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Rinia Altir
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy I understand to what you are speaking. Many argued the same points back when PLEX was launched and ever since, even at first word of MTs and CCP's assurance they would not allow MTs in Eve. (I do find it funny that some fanboys run around saying it won't get worse ... yeah, right.)
I suppose many do not feel they were listened to then, and likely won't be listened to now. So perhaps explains the lightness of the response.
If you want a slightly different angle on it, from a purely monetary theory perspective, http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535164&page=2#37.
I think the shift is this:
In the past, it could have been argued that PLEX will be a weapon against RMT.
Now, it has been proven to be a tool for greed rather than a weapon against farmers. Which proves everyone right who argued against PLEX in the first place.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rinia Altir
Which proves everyone right who argued against PLEX in the first place.
In the long run, that does seem to be the case.
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