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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:51:00 -
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I will say that if CCP is now willing to talk and listen to the community I am quite sure we can BOTH come to a mutual understanding that helps things out in the long run.
The only major concern right now is the lack of a smackdown given to the supposed "leak" Personally I think it is fake but many people don't and not seeing you vigorously deny it as nothing more than say defamation is worrying.
The ideas shown in the topic from the leak would be a surefire way to reduce CCP as a viable company going into the future in my opinion. And in a game where the future means almost everything it has caused more than a few to exit in fear.
What is needed quite quick is assurance that the "ideas" in the supposed leak are not true and that they will NEVER be implemented. And assurances that for now on you will float ideas in an open topic in the community before even posting them as a blog to give us time to help refine them into ideas that would be best for your company and it's relationship with us your customers.
I know it is a pain when half the replies are "OMg OH NOES this change will do X to me and I have NO IDEAS on how to fix Y! and who cares about Z!!!!!111!!" Yet, your company has so far managed to extract many good ideas from the community and I hope to see this continue in an open fashion in the future.
I would hope CCP sees the community as more of an asset or a free library of viable ideas in the future rather than rely on some who can be hired who either do not understand EVE or do not understand CCPs relationship with its customers. Which in my opinion is unique in the MMO universe.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Pann The newsletter was not fake. I guess this is how it feels when someone reads your diary, something you hadn't intended anyone else to see. Not to deflect the heat but to explain why what I'm about to say, I wasn't involved with writing it. The only reason I mention that is because I am not going to presume to know the minds of the people who did have comments in there. I am not going to throw people I love under the bus or to the lions or whatever. I can't/won't answer questions about what they said or why they said it.
Our newsletters are written as a means to bring about discussion (that sometimes can even become heated debate) among our coworkers. That's really all I can say about it. I am not a game designer. I'm a mouthpiece. I'll admit it. By the time I get involved, the decisions have been made. Not making excuses for myself, just explaining.
This is extremely troubling in my opinion. While I personally respect the privacy of individuals and companies I can't just ignore what was said. As a customer what I request is that those involved come forward and say that many features of that document will never be implemented and that Microtransactions will NEVER give any advantage in the game.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Deamos
Originally by: Desya Dak'ann Edited by: Desya Dak''ann on 24/06/2011 00:55:55 ....stuff Newsletter - If thats real, im unsubbing... start explaining
Already been admitted to being real..
So instead of unsubbing why don't we discuss this as real customers and not crybabies?
Yes this is a VERY SERIOUS problem that is causing problems for CCP and I personally think that perhaps the company needs to make a few changes to its employment but that has almost nothing to do with us the playerbase. CCP is a private company.
Instead what is needed here is for these people as soon as possible to come on the forums and start talking with us. I for one WILL leave the game if microtractations are ever implemented to give an advantage in the game. I think many people feel the same so in my opinion the first step to fixing this is for CCP to declare out and upfront that Microtranactions will never influence gameplay only vanity.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: OMGWTFResearch on 24/06/2011 01:53:18
Originally by: CCP Manifest
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson Has soundwave been fired yet?
Will all future editions of 'Fearless' be released publicly?
Is there anything else you've lied to the playerbase about (MT for vanity ONLY) that we might like to know about?
Soundwave will NOT be fired nor should he. I personally would not like to see one of the driving forces behind the Alliance Tournament and the spiritual leader of Team BFF take a fall for agreeing to present one opposing side of the microtransaction debate in an internal newsletter.
Employment Termination is STRICTLY a CCP manner. And personally I don't think you ought to say either way because frankly it is NONE of our business what happens to soundwave or any other member of CCP. I personally think SOME people at CCP may need to be considered for termination of employment but again it is an opinion and directly calling for a named employee to be fired is defamation from members of the community.
BTW you mentioned earlier that there had been threats of violence. I would encourage CCP to turn in IPs of those making violent threats to the relevant law enforcement agencies of their countries. Threats on a forum are not funny.
The newspaper needs to be addressed mainly by saying Microtransactions will NEVER be used to give a player advantage ONLY vanity!
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jegen Earni If there is ever a time in Eve where - - items or services that affect gameplay can be bought with real money and give an advantage (no matter how small) to those who can afford them - items that used to exist can again be obtained with real money - inconveniences can be avoided with real money
you can say good bye to me and my 7 accounts.
Its not because I wouldn't be able to afford these things by any means. Its that in making any of these changes, the sandbox would be absolutely, irrevocably ruined. Its the point that you lied to our faces, CCP. You looked us in the eyes and lied to us. "Disappointed" isn't an accurate term for this; "betrayed" feels like it fits a bit better.
The fact is that when it comes to items that affect gameplay and/or give players an advantage, MT embedded in a subscription payment model cannot work. You're double-billing the players. You're having the players pay a subscription for the PRIVILEGE to buy more stuff. That is inherently wrong.
CCP as you can see here many of us have made it clear that any in game advantage that can be gained with Microtranactions means we leave.
And stop mentioning PLEX as an excuse. We as a community allowed PLEX because it has a direct impact on reducing RMT and it serves more good than bad. It dosen't make the game more convenient or give you stuff you cant get without reasonable effort ingame.
Once you start saying you can only get an item with PLEX or a new currency derived from plex you are straying rapidly from that. You ruin the sandbox and make your company look to be the next money grubbing operation.
I and others here understand you need funds with the likely high cost of WoD and Dust and we CAN find middle ground here. Personally I think the best way is to encourage people to get more accounts with a BIG 6 month sale for existing customers.
Lets TALK CCP.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.24 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Scerolikk Teromni
Originally by: Evanga i dont care about aurum, as long as people are not able to buy SP. That's is MY main concern. Rest i do not care.
But what about ships? By buying a ship with AUR, you cut out everything that would have taken to produce that ship for sale on the ISK market. You bone the miners, you bone the industrials, you bone the traders, and you bone the manufacturers. Perhaps the single aspect that most contributes to the greatness of EVE is the player-driven market, and AUR could completely undermine that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THIS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
If all that crap were restricted to just stations that would be fine but out in space things are completely different. The sandbox would be ruined.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.25 04:11:00 -
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CCP you continue to escalate this crisis by not doing what you need to be doing which is responding to the community in a professional matter. That is not "knee jerk" it is what a responsible company does.
The blog post was in my opinion a half baked attempt to pass the buck. Meanwhile your company PR is being torn apart on blog sites and semi major media. And now the exposure of the email is likely what will cause many people on the sidelines to go on and unsubscribe.
You are refusing to come out and say that the new microtranaction currency will not ever be used to buy items or anything that can affect the space game. This is in my opinion now costing your company more money though lost subscriptions and lost employee productivity than microtransactions could EVER give you as far as financial resources.
It is just about at the point of being the biggest criris in EVE online's long history. Because it is one step away (Which is the confirmation of the microtranaction currency being able to affect gameplay) from a percentage of the playerbase to simply leave. Which in my opinion will be a crushing financial blow to CCP resuling in reduced ability to develop future titles needed to remain a viable company.
You know what happens when a company has that happen to them? Their investors or controlling interest's sell them elseware in fear of continued failure.
I have said it once and I'll say it again I WILL leave Eve online in the event the microtranaction currency is able to purchase items that effect the space gameplay.
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia Check the "Ships for $" thread guys... Zinfadel also confirmed that you can buy ships for dollars...
I'm glad I've unsubbed my accounts. I'm getting the **** out of here as soon as I can.
The issue with that is how the ship is created out of thin air because some IDIOT at CCP in my opinion forgot to make it so it makes a BPC only. And now they have to wait to do a trade in system.
To compensate you can bet the price will be stupid high (60-100USD) and spec wise looks to be another scorp but that won't be enough to address the core issue which is ships out of thin air. And wont answer the real question on if real game affecting ships and Ammo are planned.
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