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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:23:00 -
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http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2011/06/black-friday.html
so they ignored any input on the dev blog and still posted there own bull****
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Commander Slavin
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:23:00 -
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I've sat on the side and watched for long enough. I was waiting to comment until after CCP Zulu's blog and I have to say im very fracking disappointed... Why would you think dodging the main issues wouldn't just serve to make us more angry... unless you really don't understand why we are angry, so I'm going to lay it out for you.
One: The idea of MT for things that aren't vanity items.
Two: The banning of a certain poster
Three: The lack of a response to general outrage and posting a devblog that clearly avoids the damn issues
Four: The fact that there are documented situations where the new CQ has fried computers
I have long since come to terms with the increasingly poor customer response times you field, and I don't expect this will ever get read within this threadnought, but I wanted to say it anyway
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knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:24:00 -
[6123]
Gotta say Zulu, your blog just made things a whole lot worse. Talk about arrogance. You have it in bucket loads.
Oh and the games industry as a whole is laughing at you right now. Its a small world and people don't forget a massive **** up like this.
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selexus
The Red Circle Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:24:00 -
[6124]
I've discover in life that it's not what mistakes you make (everybody does, big and small) it's how you put them right that counts.
CCP Zulu we've got your number.
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Rho1
Incarna Protest
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:24:00 -
[6125]
No more lies! No more not giving a frack about playerbase opinions! NO MORE SILENCE !!!!! IT IS NOT ABOUT THE FRACKING MONOCLE, CAN'T YOU READ?!
We THE PEOPLE demand:
1. MT containing vanity items ONLY. That is the most important issue and the one that causes most rage. We want you to tell us that you will NOT sell standings, skills, ammo, or uber ships via NEX store. Don't lie to us. Don't tell us that what Soundwave wrote in your internal newsletter is just his "personal opinion" and it doesn't matter, It's an opinion of a lead game designer and we want CCP to ASSURE US THAT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN.
2. CQ to be an option to enter from the old hangar view a) because we aren't ALL here to play barbies in stations. b) because implementation sux technically (fried PCs, more load on some PCs than full-maxed Crisis 2, just read the forums) c) don't tell us it's our fault and lousy gear that you cannot code a 5by5 dark room which does not take 100% of gpu power on a modern machine. d) image of a door is not an acceptable option, just put old hangar view back in.
3. Assurance, that you WILL NOT introduce in-game obstacles just to sell us the option to remove them, like you did with saving of ship fittings (move them to server, put limit of 50 fittings in place, get paid for increasing the limit? cunning). a) remove the one obstacle already introduced, give us option to keep unlimited number of fittings locally like it was before.
Meet above demands, and the playerbase will cool down. Don't act stupid and pretend that we rage about the price of monocle. That is the matter you want to explain to the media and the gaming industry, which are all laughing at you. We will simply not buy it.
If you don't plan to comply to the above, tell us now, so we can stop investing our time and money in your service.
TL;DR: 1. No to selling advantages. 2. Ship spinning back. 3. No to introducing obstacles to sell option to remove them.
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Zedah Zoid
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:24:00 -
[6126]
OK, dev blog fails to deliver anything except to admonish us to not drag people through the mud that are just doing their jobs. OK, I haven't dragged anyone through the mud but admonishment taken. So I'm done. Last account canceled. I have a couple of weeks to blow people up and be happy in local and then I guess I'll find something else to do. At least my kids will be happy to see me again.
PS: CCP, stop lying to people. It turns them off.
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Nu Saban
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:24:00 -
[6127]
If I wanted to play the Sims i would not come in the eve!!
eve = farmwille... lol
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Illumi Rinne
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:25:00 -
[6128]
I really had to push myself to activate my account knowing about the plex system.
Given the current force of numbers, I've decided that I'll unsubscribe to voice my views against it and any other kind of cash for in-game items/wealth system.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 -
[6129]
Edited by: Miilla on 24/06/2011 22:28:50
I think this link is a useful read
http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2011/06/14/why-some-psychopaths-make-great-ceos/
But seriously ; i think they need some professional help to get back to reality.
Real life prices for virtual items? 1000 bucks virtual jeans?
Wise the hell up.
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diaufop
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:26:00 -
[6130]
Originally by: Miilla CCP's vision of the sandbox ->
Customers view of CCP management ->
Pretty much sums it up, although could do with a Pony for fallout.
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Golheim
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:27:00 -
[6131]
Here as a vote of support for the many articulate rages in this thread calling out CCP. CCP Zulu's response was condescending.
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Bilboz
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:28:00 -
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This is my 3rd? or 4th post to the eve forums i do not troll or flame these boards out of habit.Its this simple given ccp's lack of action over botting and RTM it seems to me they are going to throw in the towel as other mmo's have and just try to cash in instead of fixing issues.IT is this simple of CCP starts selling high end ships or other I WIN items for null sec we ( myself and my wife) will close our accounts. So if that lands us in the rage cage with all the other trolls so be it. EVE as been all about the journey or build to fight and win a place in nullsec. If CCP sells I WIN items there is no reason to log on. This all reminds me of the Joke about Warcrab holding your hand the whole way and giving you a cookie at lvl80. Eve was the game that would slap you and steal your cookie.IF this comes to pass CCP better learn how to bake cookies...your new fan base is going to expect them.
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Alexis Sachs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost http://treborofthecsm.blogspot.com/2011/06/black-friday.html
so they ignored any input on the dev blog and still posted there own bull****
Just saw that and read the post. Very disappointing. This signals to me that in fact our concerns are not something they care about, CCP is moving forward on this reckless path. If my comments make me a bitter vet in that I'm not happy the game I've played for nearly 4 years is becoming something completely foreign to me, then so be it. I don't think EVE is the game I fell in love with anymore.
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Kueijin Legion
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 -
[6134]
Date Of Birth 2006.12.29 15:16:00
Been here since then. Never unsubbed.
Until now.
Go **** Yourselves CCP, just Go **** Yourselves.
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Osk74
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:29:00 -
[6135]
Originally by: SuperSpy00bob
Originally by: Iurnan Mileghere Edited by: Iurnan Mileghere on 24/06/2011 00:39:31 The chief complaint is micro transactions. Prices are one thing, but you must address the leaked newsletter and the direction on MTs that affect game progression, such as faction eta digs, ammunition, and ships.
If you cannot address those issues, please communicate to your team that someone at CCP hf who *can* needs to do so.
A thousand times this. I have been with eve since the beta, and this change in attitude has me quite depressed. If your goal really is similar to what has been shown in that PDF, You. Are. Going. To. Lose. Lots. Of. Subscribers.
04 here but this.
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Debrue
Gallente Sacred Templars
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:30:00 -
[6136]
CCP, looks like it's time to get back to the drawing board. End the thought of having MT in the game. Fix the graphics overload caused by your marginal upgrade that few care about. Get back to making upgrades that enhance player enjoyment, good market opportunities, upgraded ships and fittings. Listen to your customer base. Before I rage threat to cancel my accounts, I'll play the wait and see game. Admit failure and move on. Debrue |
DangerosoDavo
Gallente Missions Mining and Mayhem Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:30:00 -
[6137]
I want to see stats, Total Subscriptions Two Weeks Ago, Total Subscriptions in 2 days... _______________________________________________ Regards Davo |
Cunane Jeran
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6138]
The Dev blog is a good explaination but you need to do more
Assurances that this game will never be Pay to Win wouldn't go amiss. Contractual Assurances.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6139]
I call a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE".
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6140]
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SkwisgaarSkwigelf NO buying standings NO buying sec NO buying remaps NO buying skills NO buying ships/modules/ammo NO buying SP
NO NO NO
Their failure for a clear no can only be interpreted as a yes.
That was apparent within minutes of this breaking out, forget their reply.
If there was a well established policy that the PR team was aware of and could point to to placate the masses they would have.
if they need the higher ups to prepare a statement it means the decision that's been made is not one that we're going to like
Zulu's blog only proves that officially.
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Hailey Sunweaver
Minmatar Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6141]
I think this needs to be addressed by Hilmar that responce was very disappointing.
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Cylide Askald
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6142]
You needed a whole day for THIS blog? lulz
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
[6143]
Originally by: DangerosoDavo I want to see stats, Total Subscriptions Two Weeks Ago, Total Subscriptions in 2 days...
Thing is, you'll have to factor in pending cancellations and you can't factor in folks who won't prolong their PLEX in 28 days.
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buck herrick
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani I'm late to the threadnaught because I was out drinking last night and then sleeping it off. Whoops.
Points:
*Making martyrs out of Helicity and Liang is an act of comic incompetence, mid-PR-disaster.
*Greed is Good is a typical example of CCP's absolutely awful messaging. The contents itself are fairly innocuous; the one guy mentioning selling ammo is just some mook, not a producer of consequence. All the same, they might as well have had an internal newsletter called "I WANT TO **** MY CUSTOMERS" as far as the messaging impact is concerned.
The timing of GiG leaking with the NeX opening is masterful on the part of the leakers and awful for CCP.
*I don't care about NeX prices. They can charge hundreds of dollars for sparkleponies and monocles and I don't give a rat's ass - I'm here for the spaceships.
My concerns are keeping microtransactions away from the combat gameplay and fighting for balance and an improved spaceship-on-spaceship experience. Lag, supercapital imbalance, iterative ship balance, all of these things matter far more to me than a store with clothes for a space barbie.
~i have no issue with mittens for once. whilst i find him a obnoxious, condescending **** most days, i recognise that this is the role he has chosen for his in-game persona (i apologise if it is indeed your true character and i have misrepresented you).
aside from my personal feelings, he is csm, and it is his team that should be bat-phoning, emailing or basically knocking down the door fo ccp on our behalf - if ccp is not workign with the csm on any decisions of this magnitude, then they are, once again, negligent of their comitment to the eve playerbase.
seleen has been fantastic in his vociferous visibility on these forums, i would hope and pray that ~OUR csm is indeed pulling together as a cohesive unit to voice major concerns to the as shats at CCP who have once again taken an ill-advised path on the rocky road to mayhem.
trust is the issue, blatant lies, mistruths, misdirection and a complete lack of understanding. if i hear one more word from CCP about prices of shi tty monacles that no one (other than them) really cares about, i will unsub my final account too.
thank you mittens and the csm - i hope you can make more progress than the masses seem able to - before it is truely too late.
~yours, ex. lisa herrick
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Tea Ester Elliot
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Debrue CCP, looks like it's time to get back to the drawing board. End the thought of having MT in the game. Fix the graphics overload caused by your marginal upgrade that few care about. Get back to making upgrades that enhance player enjoyment, good market opportunities, upgraded ships and fittings. Listen to your customer base. Before I rage threat to cancel my accounts, I'll play the wait and see game. Admit failure and move on.
Enjoy funding more AURUM developments with your subscription. In a few months you will probably be rewarded with the opportunity to buy ships/ammo with yours.
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Garreth Vlox
Minmatar Blackened Skies Imperial Directorate
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
[6146]
all quotes are from this : http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=author&p=CCP%20Zulu
" I added on the role of content director for EVE late summer 2008 which I have performed since."
so basically this whole fiasco is kinda your fault? cool.
P.S.
"Whatever you choose to do reflects what you are and what you want others to think you are." ccp zulu.
according to google translate the above quote is this, "we didn't want your money anyway"
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
[6147]
Self destructing all my useless promo ships on the memorial in Jita :DDD
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Velcet NiteDragon
Minmatar Hayes Interplanetary
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
[6148]
Sorry I just hear the buzzing of flies when CCP reps speak, it must be the wholesome smell of horse ***t surrounding them.
Don't really care about the MT stuff, do care about the lies, broken promises and ***t-stain expansion.. Gimme back my fricken spinny ship you ass-hats.
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Adrie Atticus
Mining and Industrial Services
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
[6149]
Originally by: Miilla
I call a vote of "NO CONFIDENCE".
Sorry, you don't own enough stocks.
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navalny
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Posted - 2011.06.24 22:32:00 -
[6150]
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SkwisgaarSkwigelf NO buying standings NO buying sec NO buying remaps NO buying skills NO buying ships/modules/ammo NO buying SP
NO NO NO
Their failure for a clear no can only be interpreted as a yes.
please No |
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