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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:27:00 -
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Nano J
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:28:00 -
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My two cents: resubbed my main after a month's break. CQ is useless and clumsy. WiS may end up being fun, but until it's ready (and useful) keep it out of game. noble exchange is a joke.
probably won't resub my alt account, especially if non-vanity MT's are implemented. I haven't ground out missions/isk/skills over the last 3-4 years so someone can come in with $300 and outskill me in a month. part of the fun of eve is waiting for new abilities. knowing i can buy plexes for standings or skills won't make me buy plexes, it will make me feel like an idiot for grinding. if i don't grind, i can't play. if i can't play, i won't even pay the sub. it is a bribe to CCP to allow people to cheat a system that has been in place since everyone here started playing. that's why so many people are angry.
if game-changing MT's are implemented i will permanently unsub.
the customer is always right. CCP isn't listening to its customers. allowing players to look better with RL influence is one thing. allowing players to BE better is another. if one country gives more money to the world cup organizers, should they be allowed to have more players on the field? it's an unfair advantage.
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Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:28:00 -
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A sad day for CCP. I thought you were a company with a difference. That is why I started to play and that's also a big part of why I stayed. Years of promises already had me doubting whether you really were the same trustworthy company with a difference still, but team BFF gave me hope (props to CCP Soundwave and others who actually care about EVE in more ways than how it can make their wallets fat).
CCP is (was?) doing well, but because of the cashflow we provide you with, you assume you have godlike power and can dictate how you can get more and more while ignoring what the customer wants.
Newsflash: the customer gives and the customer takes.
Fail to take into account your players concerns and you're in for a shock. Just read up on some (modern) marketing theories/studies and find out how for instance word of mouth publicity affects sales.
Doing business in the post mass-production consumer society really is no rocket science. It's mostly about trust between two parties who invest time and effort together to create value. In simple terms: it's about making friends and helping eachother out. Grasp that, and there's hope.
Micro transactions smell of an antique mass-market transactions based marketing strategy. Yes, you read that right, micro-transactions is not a new way to make money, it's an old way that arrived with the industrial revolution. It works well for certain products (nails for instance), but doesn't work too well for products where both seller and buyer need to interact to create value.
So is EVE really the place for micro-transactions? Your customers create a huge part of your value for you and are in it for the long run. I've been playing EVE for over 6 years regularly. It's been a fun part of my life and I would want to keep it that way. But if I cannot trust CCP as a company, I do not see why I should invest time still. What a waste it would be :/
You are now facing your biggest crisis/opportunity yet. You have a chance to redeem yourself, fail to do so and you'll lose your steady playerbase over time.
(P.S. that excuse of a reply devblog is a slap in our face, you need to do a whole lot better than that.) |
Fermi Tesla
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 -
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The price of vanity items is not the main issue; it is the chance of sale of SP or standings...
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Leisen
Caldari Interrobang Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 -
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This whole situation has made me realize how long I've been disappointed with CCP. I realize now, that before I was willing to put up with their constant bull**** because EVE was such a unique and great game. This is the last of it though, good bye and good riddance.
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Thutmose I
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: Thutmose I on 24/06/2011 23:35:48 please try to understand the main complaints of the public, we don't want the game to be broken by the allowance of sale of skillpoints.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:29:00 -
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Players - 'Not only is your expansion ****e, but it's overheating our computers!'
CCP - Buy better computers!
Players - 'When we fight in fleets or protest in Jita, your server is laggy as ****!'
CCP - Dat's the best we can do while we work on vampire barbies.
Players - Buy better computers!
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Ded Moroz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:30:00 -
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Reactivated the game a couple of weeks ago after 4 year absence because I have some extra time for gaming. And now I come back and see this disaster unfold. This is just disgusting.
Very quickly my renewed excitement about EVE is turning very sour. Real life $$ transactions for items of power??? dev blogs about $1000 jeans??? what the hell did i come back to? I just cancelled my subscription.
I think i will go and reactive and play my WoW account instead. At least they only charge RL $$ for silly stuff like sex changes.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:30:00 -
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I stopped playing a while ago - only this account still subbed - so my voice doesn't really count towards the quit/not quit numbers, but I have to say that dev blog shows a hilarious lack of judgement.
I'm not sure what I expected to read, but it really wasn't that. Smarmy, patronising and aggressive with completely the wrong tone, and so entirely missing the point, that it almost feels like you're trying to sabotage the whole thing. --
Originally by: Brian Ballsack please learn to use english if your gonna post
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Desya Dak'ann
Caldari No Ducks Allowed
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:30:00 -
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This threadnaut just entered siege.
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: penifSMASH look at this nerdvention. what are you angry nerds even angry about?? stupid monocles that no one is forcing you to buy? QQ more nublets
GOOD TROLL
or are you just un informed or too dumb to realise
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Inzax
Caldari In ZAX New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Inzax on 24/06/2011 23:32:01 Hit them on there FB page http://www.facebook.com/eveonline There is a comment feed there reference Zulu's blog. Sure they can delete but the FB page is public and outsiders will see the rage.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:31:00 -
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost
Originally by: penifSMASH look at this nerdvention. what are you angry nerds even angry about?? stupid monocles that no one is forcing you to buy? QQ more nublets
GOOD TROLL
or are you just un informed or too dumb to realise
He is too rich to realise. Good job too. He has to pay for our absense :)
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Sa'Shena
Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Desya Dak'ann This threadnaut just entered siege.
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Dasida
Pink Clownz
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Canceled all accounts on creditcard, plex accounts die mid next month.
-9 subs here...
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Daftny Litchinova
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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I started to play in 2008.
I never got into MMO mainly because they where either lame or I wasn't warm at the idea of paying every month to play a game. Eve got me in and I enjoyed the game a lot.
My brother, on the other hand, played a free MMO. But there was the option to buy virtual stuff to 'grow faster' and be more powerfull. I thought this was really a bad game design and was so thankfull that Eve wasn't in that type of game design.
The treath is real: I think a LOT of players will leave that game and I will, if CCP is going to offer virtual stuff you can buy that gives a player advantage. I remember a post concerning paying for a neural remap on the test server; Many players where angry about that because it is an advantage.
I barelly think it's ok to pay every month to play, do you think I will pay for virtual stuff? In a world where we are getting even more money out of our wallet just to barelly pass trought a month (yeah, I know some have nooo problem with getting money, but that's the point of balance of the game) I don't think I will continue to play - and support - a game where I can't compete if I don't have the cash to throw in.
It's either AUR out or a lot of players out. For sure, we can, as a community stay together and don't buy from that AUR, but for sure, a rich dude will get into it and unbalance the game so that's why I urge CCP to reconsider.
the risk is there: the game we all knew and love may be at a turning point...
I will wait to see CCP's move before removing the plug
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Tea Ester Elliot
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost
Originally by: penifSMASH look at this nerdvention. what are you angry nerds even angry about?? stupid monocles that no one is forcing you to buy? QQ more nublets
GOOD TROLL
or are you just un informed or too dumb to realise
it's penif... you got trolled
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coolzero
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: coolzero on 24/06/2011 23:33:11 silly icelanders.....they almost get destroyed by debt becuase of greedy banker wich have "greed is good" tattoed on their forehead and now CCP going in the same directions
lol
dont people ever learn.
bill maher will explain Greed isnt good
Jack of all trades, master of none...
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DeathCam
Unicorn Love Club
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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onwards to 9000!
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Oregin
Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:32:00 -
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I think it's a shame that EVE is becoming CCP's live test ground for systems that they would like to implement into their other games.
Sadly, they are shooting themselves in the foot, selling out and are destined to go down as yet another developer aimed solely at extorting just enough money to make their efforts worthwhile whilst producing something that nobody would be proud of as a thing in itself.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ded Moroz Reactivated the game a couple of weeks ago after 4 year absence because I have some extra time for gaming. And now I come back and see this disaster unfold. This is just disgusting.
Very quickly my renewed excitement about EVE is turning very sour. Real life $$ transactions for items of power??? dev blogs about $1000 jeans??? what the hell did i come back to? I just cancelled my subscription.
I think i will go and reactive and play my WoW account instead. At least they only charge RL $$ for silly stuff like sex changes.
Looks like a bunch of people will be going that way. Maybe CCP can also find a business consultant that doesn't look at it and then walk out
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Sekhmet Neteret
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:33:00 -
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Please read the chief complaints before mentioning them in a post, it is not the price of clothing that is the real problem, it is the chance that SP and Standings may be sold, as well as other "useful" items.
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Veritas Myth
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:34:00 -
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This is an extremely sad day. The Dev Blog explains nothing, gives no information at all about the changes proposed. The response was ą well what can I say, lets just say, rubbish. What it does say, in the lack of explanation, is that CCP doesnĘt really care that much about its player base. Just give us more of your money. Well thatĘs not Eve for me. Sorry but something has gone wrong somewhere, the spirit of the game is going down hill.
I donĘt care less about the vanity stuff, thatĘs just fluff for those that want to role play a little more, but the rest ą the rest is just not right and thereĘs plenty there that agree. And your response was the trigger, awful, just awful.
You will be minus three accounts when their time expires. Three accounts that could have been earning you regular income for years to come, which I was hoping to give you as wellą
ItĘs a shame..
Regards
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Prester Tom
Genco
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:34:00 -
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Surely the only way to fix this is - FREE MONOCLES FOR EVERYONE! BAM |
Alexis Sachs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Inzax Edited by: Inzax on 24/06/2011 23:32:01 Hit them on there FB page http://www.facebook.com/eveonline There is a comment feed there reference Zulu's blog. Sure they can delete but the FB page is public and outsiders will see the rage.
I posted. Was one of my first stops immediately after reading the blog post.
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Achmebenzadream
Minmatar Havoc Violence and Chaos Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Rofl
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penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost
Originally by: penifSMASH look at this nerdvention. what are you angry nerds even angry about?? stupid monocles that no one is forcing you to buy? QQ more nublets
GOOD TROLL
or are you just un informed or too dumb to realise
waa waa the company is looking out for its financial well-being i might be forced to move out of Mom's basement
lmao
losers
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Meatay
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:35:00 -
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Read the dev blog that seemed to take them all day to craft despite the cries and begging for an answer...
TL;DR = f' you "people" ----------------------------------------------
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Nasro Drags
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Posted - 2011.06.24 23:35:00 -
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I don't understand all the commotion. If you can use ISK to get PLEX and PLEX to get AURUM. Then that only means that if non vanity items are added, people will only need to grind more (or PVP less) to get all the bells and whistles and play for free.
If you put money into the game then the amount of grind is reduced.
As far as I can tell, MTs will only make plex more expensive, thus making it harder for people to play for free.
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