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Cor'len
The Silence of Thunder
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:34:00 -
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Hello [my name here],
This email confirms that you have cancelled your billing agreement with CCP Games UK. [blah blah]
Also gave away tons of gifts n' money to the lovely people in Dodixie, a place I used to hate but now <3.
CCP Pann: Take your paisley and ram it up your bum. Then waggle that at CCP Hellmar and get him in here apologizing until his hair catches on fire. -Cor There'd be a graphical sig here if I wasn't so lazy. |
Napoleon Baleine
Interstellar Exploration Initiative
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:35:00 -
[7532]
Originally by: kitic mile
Originally by: Token Afrodude
Originally by: Glafri
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO
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Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lock out on 25/06/2011 09:36:25 Tbh, what CCP will have to deal with is not a couple of thousand disgruntled subscribers cancelling (allthough that's not something to sneeze at) .
It's a couple thousand of hardcore gamers badmouthing all future CCP releases to the gaming comunity . Wait till they release Dust or World of Emo and it gets 1 thousand 1 star reviews on Amazon with "greedy bastards releasing half finished, bug filled content" comments . Waiting to see what mails Hilmar sends at that point.
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cytex malrone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hunter Verdeen The truth about vanity items in black and white from CCP Dev Blog
Which they already tried to break until the communtiy stood there ground and stood up to them with the scorpion.
Also note the bit they say that this strategy will change they just not saying how they are also discussing this in there private memos . Do you trust them coz they ****ed any goodwill i had with this leaks up against the wall
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Evalon Fury
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:37:00 -
[7535]
I have two accounts..
Cancelled my main Account just now. My other runs out in 5 days.
Wont be giving anymore cash to this joke until they fix this mess. How do i claim back cash for unused time?
Its a bloody disgrace!
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Wellfan
Snake Eyes Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:37:00 -
[7536]
251 pages, 7500+ posts and still CCP in their arrogance will not listen to the playerbase.
2 accounts unsubbed, unfortunately I have 2 and a bit months left on this one which will also be unsubbed
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Highpriest Aden
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:39:00 -
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I have been here for 10 years, ever since the beta was released! I have 9 accounts, butonly 4 active atm, due to system demands.
If CCP will implent microtransactions as I know it from other games, like +10% mining bonus for 14 days@1000AUR T3 ammo@AUR skillpoints@AUR
AUR aparrently has comed to be, and fine with that. a few suggestions. postprone the walking around in stations for 1 year, nex year's present should you do some housecleaning in the old code, that will mean better and faster client. I'm okay with AUR for design clothes, but if it comes to bonuses over other players that dont wanna use AUR, then I will quit the game and sell all of my carekters on ebay 10 years has been a long jurney, I love the game, but enough.
Microtransactions is even worse than when CCP dumb**** "stole" t2 BPO's from the lottery!!!
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Donna Domino
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: cytex malrone
Which they already tried to break until the communtiy stood there ground and stood up to them with the scorpion.
Can someone direct me to a thread or article at explains the scorpion references I keep hearing
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Cobalt Nova
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte
and just where do you see that it wont be possible to buy skill points as next step?????? if they start selling ships and other gamewinning stuff then why stop there and not take it further to allso be able to buy skill points?
WE WANT AN ANSWER , is that so hard to understand?
I do understand you want an answer, and CCP will give it. But just have some patience. It's no 10 person company and they just completed a mayor update. Give them atleast some time.
And yeah skill point purchases will kill the game, but I don't think they will ever do this. Since it makes the subscription useless. Since I keep my account running most of the time even when I am not playing just for the skills.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lock out Edited by: Lock out on 25/06/2011 09:36:25 Tbh, what CCP will have to deal with is not a couple of thousand disgruntled subscribers cancelling (allthough that's not something to sneeze at) .
It's a couple thousand of hardcore gamers badmouthing all future CCP releases to the gaming comunity . Wait till they release Dust or World of Emo and it gets 1 thousand 1 star reviews on Amazon with "greedy bastards releasing half finished, bug filled content" comments . Waiting to see what mails Hilmar sends at that point.
This has already put me off WoD actually. The only other MMO I might be remotly interested in.
CCP had a good thing going with subscriptions. It was a safe and steady income for them, and it was managable for us as well.
Now they got greedy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Antigue
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos For all those who keep asking "will non-vanity items be in the MT store?" ... please stop. CCP have already given you your answer in the documents and responses made by them.
All your *****ing and moaning means nothing to them, Hilmar even states this in the leaked internal memo.
If you really want to get them to listen and maybe change their viewpoint ... then cancel your subscription because that's all Hilmar understands, actions!
I for one hope this gets resolved for the better because I want to play this game. But for now I have cancelled and will wait to see if CCP actually gets a reality check.
Also what do you think will happen if this MT garbage goes ahead in it's current form? other developers will see it and think they can do the same. You wont be able to escape it in any game you go to!
Well that is exactly what they expect to happen:
1) Ppls hope. You hope things will get better. Why should they? Everything that brings RL money to iceland is a good thing.
2) You will not quit EvE easily. You spent lots of time, money and effort to bring up various accounts being able to do lots of stuff.
3) Your friends also hope and stay waiting. Meaning CCP will get their RL ISK while you are waiting for a dead horse to stand up again.
4) Hilmar told you point blank in his "leaked" email that he gives **** about what people say as long as they pay.
5) CCP couldn¦t care less why you are paying as long as you are paying. Even if you are paying to emo rage on forums they will still happily take your money and laugh at you in internal mails and newsletters.
6) It is not CCP¦s fault. You finally realize that it is all about RL money? How comes you didn¦t know that in first instance? You still keep on hoping? Stupid! There is no reason whatsoever to believe that they are not optimizing their profit. And it will all start off with the "noble intention" to give noobs ships they can use to compare with veterans. You are still stupid enough to hope that they are doing anything else then maximize their profit? Go on posting in emo rage but don¦t forget to pay your monthly bill.
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WlliamRyker
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:40:00 -
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Originally by: Evalon Fury
Wont be giving anymore cash to this joke until they fix this mess. How do i claim back cash for unused time?
Call your card company and have a chargeback issued for your subscription
starve this mad ****ing brute
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Horn Silver
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:40:00 -
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ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] MAYBE [ ] AFRAID TO TELL [ ] SCARED ****TLESS [ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
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Kharontos
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:41:00 -
[7544]
Originally by: Glafri
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO
In the last few blogs and CCP e-mails this question remained strangely unanswered. Is this a "yes"?
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:42:00 -
[7545]
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 25/06/2011 09:42:37
Originally by: Lock out Tbh, what CCP will have to deal with is not a couple of thousand disgruntled subscribers cancelling (allthough that's not something to sneeze at) .
It's a couple thousand of hardcore gamers badmouthing all future CCP releases to the gaming comunity . Wait till they release Dust or World of Emo and it gets 1 thousand 1 star reviews on Amazon with "greedy bastards releasing half finished, bug filled content" comments . Waiting to see what mails Hilmar sends at that point.
+1
Greed can get really expensive.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs This has already put me off WoD actually. The only other MMO I might be remotly interested in.
Ditto. I was actually digging that they were making it, but after reading what I read, not really that interested any more.
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MasterBroker
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:43:00 -
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No Response til Monday, CCP don¦t work on weekends anymore...
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Torquil Noble
Caldari Eternal Profiteers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Parley, ehà? You know it's more of a guideline than a rule, right?
Anyway. People have already pointed this out, and my answer will drown in the flood, but since you have so kindly provided a soap box, I'll make use of it nevertheless.
Now, my full answer isà a bit long. It didn't quite fit into a single post, so I offer it to you on this page instead, and only provide the summary in this post.
Basically, it boils down to this:
Your three points are of some concern, but they are actually not particularly relevant. What is relevant is that you have been caught pursuing things that you promised us not to pursue, and you have further dented a relationship to your community that was already shaky from the last few weeks' worth of controversy: the developer licensing debacle, the IW Scorp debacle, the reneged promises about CQ and Incarna, the NeX store debacle, and all the standard mess that comes with a significant release of core content. However, the latter are just that: they're build-up. They're not the actual problem.
The actual problem is the lie.
That problem is compounded by the very casual and uncaring manner in which concerns have been met with since the patch release.
It is further compounded by your apparent inability to identify this very obvious key issue.
Yes, the NeX store prices are barmy, and you need to address this, and make your strategy for vanity items clear to assuage the worries that you don't really know what you're doing and that you're not wasting time and effort on things no-one will ever use. Yes, the CQ lacks the required options to make it a satisfactory addition for all players, and you need to address this too ù preferably by providing those options, but at least by communicating what led up to them not being included (this time, or ever). Yes, there are technical issues with the patch, but those will presumably be dealt with in due time as they always are.
But again, the key issue here is that your voice no longer have any value.
You no longer have the confidence of the community. You have managed to contradict and suppress yourself into a position of zero trustworthiness. This is not something you can ôPRö yourselves out of ù it requires a drastic change in organisational culture (good luck), a drastic change in communications strategy (good luck), and, yes, quite possibly killing some of your darlings (tough luck).
This needs re-reading...
TN Sometimes the road seems long, and then you realise you're on a roundabout |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:43:00 -
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Quote: as far as your internal pdf goes....whatever. you should be fearful, of your playerbase for reasons i mentioned earlier. although bouncing ideas around isn't a bad thing. your players should be in the loop to a certain extent.
/facepalm
Has no one here watched Wall Street? Gordon Gekko? Any of that ring a bell?
The PDF's title is Greed is Good?, directly referring to the Wall Street character Gordon Gekko (and the person that character was based on) who is famous for that line. It's a morality story about that person, who went to jail for decades for ripping off his clients out of, you guessed it, overwhelming greed.
Does the fact that the people were asked to portray different extreme viewpoints in that internal communication now make sense?
Do you get the point of the whole exercise now?
Holy Christ you people are dense.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:44:00 -
[7550]
Good job CCP, you have turned one of the best gaming communities out there, your own, against you. Hope your ****ing proud of yourself. Prospecting! |
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Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:45:00 -
[7551]
Btw, feel free to review the Incarna expansion on metacritic
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Invelious
Amarr Coal Fusion Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:45:00 -
[7552]
Hilmar
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:45:00 -
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We can post on this threatnought as much as we can,but its weekend so CCPmanagement are at sleep or getting themselves drunk in a local pub. They don,t look at the replies we give on this apology post or the Zulu blog anymore,they don,t give a **** on what we say only on what we do,right Hilmarr ? Don,t expect any constructive replies from them they do what they anyway,clearly stated in a leaked E-mail So they can,t be bothered by what we think. Take a pause bookmark this thread an go further on it on monday. CCP doesn,t seem to care
excuse me for my bad english
grtz
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Does the fact that the people were asked to portray different extreme viewpoints in that internal communication now make sense?
I don't see any "different extreme viewpoints" in that bulletin...
It's just either MTs or MTs...
and the article by CCP Morlock is imo even more damning than the Soundwave bit.
Also notice how Hilmar explicitly refers to Fearless as a means of communicating company strategy/policy.
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Gerdan BloodELF
Minmatar D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:48:00 -
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Come join the protest outside Jita 4.4 station! Lets stand united!
For Questions or to see my chars Join my Channel
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cyaxares II
Originally by: Ranger 1 Does the fact that the people were asked to portray different extreme viewpoints in that internal communication now make sense?
I don't see any "different extreme viewpoints" in that bulletin...
It's just either MTs or MTs...
and the article by CCP Morlock is imo even more damning than the Soundwave bit.
Also notice how Hilmar explicitly refers to Fearless as a means of communicating company strategy/policy.
Oh my, you really don't get it do you...
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Hemp Invader
Inverted Worlds
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:49:00 -
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Have you guys seen the new leaked e-mail from Hilmar, where he basically says, we don't give a **** about what ppl think or say.
He says STFU OR LEAVE. I choose both, I will shut up now and i will leave. Bye
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Teako
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:49:00 -
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today From: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=.UTF-8. Message-Id: <[email protected]>
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldn+ót be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
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Lohrus
Amarr ZERO T0LERANCE RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:53:00 -
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people come down. We will get our Answers soon. Cool Down!! and Stop spamming the forum! Give CCP a chance to respond. have patience!!! for the Empress! |
Farelle
Gallente Core Impulse Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lohrus people come down. We will get our Answers soon. Cool Down!! and Stop spamming the forum! Give CCP a chance to respond. have patience!!!
they have had days, they chose to give us an insulting dev blog, and leaked email that shows that NO MATTER WHAT WE SAY, it means NOTHING. So thats it, good bye -2 accounts.
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