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MasterBroker
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:09:00 -
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today From: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=öUTF-8″ Message-Id: <[email protected]>
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
"I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say..... ...After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store. ...Stay the course, we have done this many times before...."
DONE
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Lotus Red
Caldari Eternal Night Dynamics
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:12:00 -
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you just took your first step into a much larger world. -2 accs.
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Wearfield
The Junkyard Dogs
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:13:00 -
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I disabled stupid CQ as soon as I logged in.. and guess what.. CCP showed me 'The Door'.
I wonder if there is a hidden message here somewhere? "Dont like CQ and MP? there's the door!"
so far my experiences with CCP have all been good ones, but it turns out they have ulterior motives. |
ArticIce
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:15:00 -
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'Well, based on the Un-sub thread. From this whole mess CCP is due to be loosing approx 16K per month so far in lost subs.
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Azahni Vah'nos
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:15:00 -
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Well it looks like Hilmar's getting bypassed Players contacting company directors
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Horn Silver
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:18:00 -
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ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] MAYBE [ ] AFRAID TO TELL [ ] SCARED ****TLESS [ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
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ilmon
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dograzor Edited by: Dograzor on 25/06/2011 10:03:17
Originally by: Kharontos Can someone explain the gravity of the Hilmar e-mail to me? To me it doesn't even come close to admitting non-vanity items for cash.
His TL;DR is that CCP will not be bothered about our feedback, and that he will keep CCP on thesame path as intended.
CCP has not denounced non vanity items, and Hilmar just said they will go through as planned, thus implementing that non vanity items will coming to Eve.
seems they will find out over time when its too late when all the accounts expire. ----------------------- did someone say fire |
MasterBroker
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:21:00 -
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Not up to date https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AtUHbyNk0JSGdHR1TDhrRVhhQTUzLUMyVTNZdjJUaHc&output=html Player left thread
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Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:22:00 -
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Quote: I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say.
FU CCP, never been treated like that. You litteraly insults us.
I wont pay any more for this game. That's it.
I think from now on you are willing to make things your way, without gamers. Well, hope it works for you.
I will do the same and continue without you.
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Clone Whisper
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:22:00 -
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Greed is good,...
Here's my view on your magazine's slogan: Greed is so good that it Bankrupted your country. Greed is so good your country has a debt of Billions to the Netherlands and England that it still is not able to repay. God knows how much money Iceland still owes to the rest of the EU,... Not feeling so smart now with that company magazine, right?
Obviousely you don't seem to learn from the mistakes made in the past (no, i'm not saying this is a mistake you made, but one can also learn from the mistakes of others, as it can learn from the successes) but hey,.. who am i to speak right? afterall i'm just a Goose in your flock, am i not? It's a shame CCP, you have became so obsessed with Greed, that you have put your Goose with the golden eggs on the slaughterblock and killed it, just to see if you could pull out some more eggs in a higher rate.
Realy, i do hope you don't get me wrong, becouse i love the game that you have going with EVE and i am realy hurt to see it slip down this road. I can tell you for a fact that i would have been playing this game for many more years to come. But as it stands right now,... You can have my two alt's back,...
Ironicly to say, World of Darkness suits CCP's style becouse you'r like a vampire bleeding EVE to death with yet an other way of taxing an already paying player base.
Here you go,.. you can have them back,... maby one day i might re-activate these alts,.. that is, the day i can see that the path you are taking with your Micro Transactions (or should i say Astronomical Transactions?) is not going to affect gameplay (wich it obviousely will becouse you are already planning on implementing Non-Vanity, game altering items in your store, completely undermining the economy of EVE). Well,.. It's time to say goodbye to my two alts...
By the way,.. Do you remember that commercial clip, The butterfly effect... Let's get real, shal we. We are not playing a game that is a SANDBOX. Are we,.. what did that guy say,... "Where every move you make will have an effect on the whole universe around you." Or did that only aply to the game and not the FORUMS?
We are not playing a game that is a SANDBOX of many, We are playing a game that is an ANTFARM to a fiew.
It's truely painfull to see how bad you lost contact with the people that have stood behind you all these years...
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Skrekkugle
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:24:00 -
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Since you look at what we do and not what we say, i just did this to 2 of my accounts:
EVE Online Subscription Cancelled
You have cancelled your EVE Online subscription.
Your account will be suspended at the end of the current subscription period, expiring on 26 June 2011.
Your characters will be stored safely and be ready for you to enjoy again should you decide to return.
If you feel that this cancellation has been made in error, you can quickly and easily reopen your account by clicking below.
Im not resubbing until the question at hand gets the RIGHT answer. Also, I had a third acc I was planning to resub.. NO GO.
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DeathCam
Unicorn Love Club
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:25:00 -
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Im playing http://www.perpetuum-online.com/ now :D
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Urima Isayeki
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:26:00 -
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Asteroid belt of Text
I am a relatively new player to Eve Online. What attracted me to the game was the sandbox and the vision of what this game COULD become. I am sure this is true for alot of people.
The idea of MMO-Elite was certainly NOT new and orginal to my mind. A wide open uuniverse, political wranglings, power-play, war, player driven industry. All very exciting concepts that as Eve players we buy into. They are NOT the game CCP has delivered. They are the game the community has created.
Reading stories of the BOB wars got me excited about this, the scams etc. Never the mechanics of the engine.
I think CCP have riden the wave of this collective conciousness, they were able to deliver the seed of this vision that allowed the community to grow. I think the danger here is if they believe this vision is thiers alone.
I understand the development process, CQ is a step in development, do I think it has under-delivered? No I don't. I am hopeful that the vision will be realised.
The risk to CCP is we stop being hopeful and stop sharing the vision.
(As an aside, why don't CCP think about opening the engine up to the community? The CP modding community is brilliant and capable of great things. Imagine if the community had the capability to bring about the changes we all want with CCP/BFF acting as the "Editors" This would revolutinise the ability to deliver the ultimate space sim far more than turning Eve into Spaceville)
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Mirand Mudge
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:28:00 -
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-2 accounts.
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:28:00 -
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Posting in an epic Threadageddon.
(Still not over 9000 tho)
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 25/06/2011 10:34:09
Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Cyaxares II
Originally by: Ranger 1 Does the fact that the people were asked to portray different extreme viewpoints in that internal communication now make sense?
I don't see any "different extreme viewpoints" in that bulletin...
It's just either MTs or MTs...
and the article by CCP Morlock is imo even more damning than the Soundwave bit.
Also notice how Hilmar explicitly refers to Fearless as a means of communicating company strategy/policy.
Oh my, you really don't get it do you...
nope, apparently I don't get it.
Here are the posts on that whole mess I put some effort in, maybe read them to see my POV: Linkage - considerations on the MMOs/RL hobbies comparison Linkage - on pricing of NeX items Linkage - what I asked for from CCP Linkage - my take on Turbefield Linkage, Linkage - unhappy players are just a symptom/short-term problem; unhappy employees are the real danger Linkage - I don't like it but maybe CCP's "too much too fast" line of reasoning is right Linkage - no idea how CCP can even respond to that criticism
Okay.
Greed is Good is the catch phrase of Gordon Gekko (or rather the person he is based on) in Wall Street. That person personified greedy business practices and ripping off the customer, and ended up spending the rest of his life in prison for it.
People were asked to portray these points of view in that newsletter to air those very issues.
In essence, the damn thing is a corporate morality play, which puts things in a completely different context than it was originally presented to the EVE community via the "leak".
If you don't agree with that point of view, fine, but at least understand it.
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Stress Buster
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:29:00 -
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The current rage is not about the high NEX prices, not about CQ, not about performance issues - all this can be fixed. It's about trust. Trust, that the hobby which the players are very dedicated (lots even addicited) to, will be developed in a direction the players want to. Trust, that all the time (and money) the players did and are going to spend building up virtual worlds, will stay valuable to them in the future. Trust into the service provider (CCP), so you actually like to support the company with your real money. Trust, that the current issues will be fixed in good way.
And trust is lost so easily... One way to get the trust maybe(!) back would be to start now polls for the paying customers. - What features do you want to see in future? - With what priorities? - Which not at all? - How should CCP (which might be in a financal crises) be financed?
CCP, you gotta be *fearless* now to face reality (which you lost), or you gonna loose more trust, your players, your game(s), your money, your company. |
Ravcharas
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:33:00 -
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On the upside CCP is leaking like a sieve right now. So there's still people in the company who cares enough to try to change the direction they're heading. It's kind of sad though that they cannot do it internally. It really says a lot.
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Declan Intaki
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Horn Silver
ARE YOU MOVING PAST VANITY ITEMS FOR AURUM?: [ ] YES [ ] NO [ ] MAYBE [ ] AFRAID TO TELL [ ] SCARED ****TLESS [ ] I WANT MY MOMMY
Just answer the QUESTION !!
Hello!? Answer please?
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Genius John
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:33:00 -
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The monocle can be bought once,but a subscription lasts for years.
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Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lock out on 25/06/2011 10:33:40 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1537450
Oh, and perpetuum online ftw.
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Joseph Vacher
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:35:00 -
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I'm realistic, I understand this is a business you want to make profit out of and so on, I've no problem with that.
But, Zulu, if you think that dev blog was an acceptable way of responding to the concerns of the player base, you're quite wrong.
People want to know whether there is a long-term goal within CCP to introduce real-money purchases of non-vanity/cosmetic items. If the answer is no, tell us - at a stroke, people are placated. If the answer is yes, your silence suggests it is a plan you have so little faith in you are afraid to outline it to the people it will directly affect.
And if you have no faith in it, why do it?
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Inthoyed
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:36:00 -
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- Fix bugs (you have some job here) - secure your game (same) - fix RMTs (same again...)
- stop ignoring player's community
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Genessius
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:36:00 -
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To all... It's true, that that email is somewhat a disgrace, but it's an e-mail form 1 person, right? And it' true, that we all see what CCP is up to NOW, but what will happen tomorrow? Or After that? We can only assume, nothing else.
True, I am only playing since 3 years, and have only 2 accounts - but I am not rich. If I couldnt buy plex ingame with mining or doing missions, I couldn't even play EvE any more, I just can't afford it.
If you want to, stop playing, start protesting, whatever... but this will not lead to good things.
...of course, it would be much easier, if CCP would respond - but I bet they are either on holiday, or they are thinking. Or, they simply dont give a c... .
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Felo Maxun
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:36:00 -
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Other then CCP_Zulu's blog which missed the point by several AU, have we got any other coms from CCP yet ?
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Gibsie
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:36:00 -
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I just can't wait to read the next Quarterly Economic Newsletter (QEN)...
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Josh Prakston
Gallente ldiocracy RED.Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:37:00 -
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For me, EVE Online is one of the best games out there. It still is, although CCP DID take a large dump this time around.
Unlike most people, i won't cancel my subscription because of a small, what should we call it? Miscalculation? Temporary taken over by greed? Developers who made NeX, i'm looking at you.
Apparently, CCP didn't listen to the community & actual players this time around. Next time you decide to make an Expansion, i would suggest you make polls, ask the community/gamers and those interested, in what would be a good addition, and what not, and what PRICES to put on ****. Oh, and try not to have outside help/support/development, unless they know how the market/Game mechanic works. If they play EVE, that would help a lot.
You failing to communicate with us players was a fail on your part. A big fail.
Hope you correct this fast, Josh __________________________________________________ There exist 10 different types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. |
Riicca
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Genessius To all... It's true, that that email is somewhat a disgrace, but it's an e-mail form 1 person, right?
It just so happens he is the CEO of CCP.
I came for parlay. Where is it, CCP Pann?
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The Ying
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:39:00 -
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So funny that players have to unsub to be heard, CCP, you totally $%^& UP.
I'd go play WoW if it was fun, crappy graphics BUT customer service.
Bring good customer service, listen to your customers, and you will keep and get more customers. I know it's %&*(ing hard to believe but it works like that.
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Wearfield
The Junkyard Dogs
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:39:00 -
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Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% off the price of Adidas shoes and 5% bonus to Adidas store credit per level. |
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