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DarkTemplarCrimsonWolf
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:12:00 -
[9781]
What's the grade you'd give CCP PR and CCP in general on handling of this situation? I'd give them a solid: ▄████████████▄▐█▄▄▄▄█▌ ████▌▄▌▄▐▐▌███▌▀▀██▀▀ ██▄█▌▄▌▄▐▐▌▀███▄▄█▌ ▄▄▄██████████████▀
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Iella Tesla
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:16:00 -
[9782]
I won't post another hate reply. But is CCP going to listen to reason? When a few thousand or so players, or one guy with a bunch of alts, start screaming that this is a bad idea will you listen? The CSM don't like the idea, the players don't like the idea = probably not a good idea. But I trust that CCP as a whole knows enough to listen.
My personal views on this matter. I'm more then half convinced that a large portion of this rage is due to incomplete information about Dust and NeX. But I will voice my concerns anyway.
Dust: I'm going to play it. New game new bugs. End of story, also I'm totally down for beta testing.
NeX: Clothes, ok. Ship skins, ok, even a good idea with the trade in a ship and some AUR for it. Color schemes for ships? That'd be awesome, despite the mass amount of pink thorax's that will be out there. Skill points? no, not ever, wasn't that addressed with the ghost training thing way back when? Pay for a month, train a 30+ day skill cancel sub and wait out the timer. This would be the same thing just faster. It will take one of Eve's best features(real time training) away. Standing? Well technically there already is a mechanism in place, there are a few cosmos agents that do something close to this. CCP could just make it a reset all standing instead, for those of us that may have run too many missions for one faction.
Thank you CCP for EVE, but please don't send it down this path. I do not plan on quitting, I'm too stubborn and too much time and money invested.
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Kilmiester
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:16:00 -
[9783]
Not even worthy of the fail whale. This has been by far the worst PR response by a company ever, and this is no exception
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Imigo Montoya
Hysterically Unforgiving Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:17:00 -
[9784]
Originally by: Pherick Sjang http://i.imgur.com/groTD.jpg(img changed to url)
Very nicely done.
This is what we want to know CCP - is this, or anything like it, what we're heading towards with micro[sic]transactions?
The subscription model doesn't work well with the microtransaction model in the same place.
Here's a novel idea that might increase revenue - how about fixing all the problems with the game that put people off so that you retain more subscriptions and further build the community, which is after all the biggest appeal this game has.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:18:00 -
[9785]
and up it goess again
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Kraxalious
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:19:00 -
[9786]
Originally by: Turkatron
Original size
Pretty much dead on...
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:20:00 -
[9787]
Originally by: Care Bear King
Here's the problem CCP is going to have, and why EvE is probably over...
A. Even if they promise to not evolve Nex into pay to win items, there is no reason for the Players to believe them at this point. You'd have to be a fool to trust any CCP promise now ..
Yes. How can we (some of us) continue to play without trust?
One of the most attractive aspects to me of TGFKAE (The Game Formerly Known As Eve) was 'The Long Game'. Very shortly after I started I had six month Skill Plans in EveMon for all my characters. For some time now I've had multi-year plans. (Which get adjusted as current events require, natch.)
Think I had an opinion about the removal of Learning Skills? :)
For both combat and industrialist goals I've never taken the short / instant gratification path but rather looked to how I (whichever Pilot *I* am at the moment) can maximize my ROI over the long view. And worked/cooperated with Corp mates on their plans so that we avoid unneeded duplications and achieve maximum mutual gain/support.
As a by product of this I had long periods of RL time spent in game, and 'meta-gaming', forming social connections. And those connections themselves led to a synergy of enhanced game capabilities/play.
That style of play, a primal motivation for my playing, is not supportable if you can't trust the "persistent universe" to be pretty much the same six or twelve months from now. Or at least to evolve in a somewhat predictable and consistent manner.
I might as well go back to Half Life or StarCraft where there is no time but now.
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Vapidity
Amarr My Monkeys 2 round banannas
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:21:00 -
[9788]
I don't think there is enough that CCP can say via lemmings or anyone else for that matter. This game has been rocked with way too many scandals. CCP getting caught lying all the time...
Who wants to do any kind of business with someone or some entity that has no integrity? CCP is going to have to make some very drastic change here and peel back the curtain.
Oh, and that idiot you guys hired that was a venture capitalist that helped spawn the banking crisis? You might want to get rid of him, too.
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BeforetheStorm90
Gallente The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:25:00 -
[9789]
Too bad CCP didn't have the sense to act like adults. Its a shame, I thought CCP might have been a company with a future. Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. -Mark Twain |
Yana Steel
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:26:00 -
[9790]
Edited by: Yana Steel on 26/06/2011 07:26:17
*****CCP is like a blind man walking through a rabid monkey shyte fight at the moment*****
Its so hilarious how this is turning out.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:27:00 -
[9791]
Edited by: Constantinus Maximus on 26/06/2011 07:30:21
Originally by: Kraxalious
Originally by: Turkatron
Original size
Pretty much dead on...
Turkatron? Is it your creation? Fantastic piece of communication!
edit:
Originally by: BeforetheStorm90 Too bad CCP didn't have the sense to act like adults. Its a shame, I thought CCP might have been a company with a future.
"Future" was their "communication" recently. I didn't really get what the message was at the time, it seemed a bit "duh, just don't **** it up CCP".
With hind-sight it becomes apparent it was an attempt to pre-seed you and keep your mind subscribed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Bureau Crat
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:30:00 -
[9792]
CCP's business plan: 1: Lie to players. 2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players. 3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1] 4: ??? 5: Profit!!11!
Am I getting this right?
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:31:00 -
[9793]
This may very well affect DUST and WoD
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:31:00 -
[9794]
Originally by: Bureau Crat CCP's business plan: 1: Lie to players. 2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players. 3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1] 4: ??? 5: Profit!!11!
Am I getting this right?
4. Wait till they leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:33:00 -
[9795]
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This may very well affect DUST and WoD
I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?
Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?
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CCFAIL
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:33:00 -
[9796]
DUST is what eve soon will be if CCP doesn't react, because once all players quit, only DUST will remain of eve.
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Hel Xaphod
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 -
[9797]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This may very well affect DUST and WoD
I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?
Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?
Flag ship? We are the cash cow farm...
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 -
[9798]
Originally by: Sett Risalo I wonder if the CQ vid screen will show a SCOPE Breaking News from Jita/Amarr/Rens/Dodixie riots?
<laughter>
Look! I was there! I'm on TV in my game!
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I have to say "in my game" since I'm clearly not talking to anyone else with me in my CQ.
(A low blow that. It was known that there would be no character interactions in Incarna 1.0.)
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:35:00 -
[9799]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This may very well affect DUST and WoD
I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?
Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?
They'll be 12yos man, wtf does it matter how they treat em, they don't have a brain yet.
I have a guy **screaming** at me on DUST youtube about being a "3****ty owner"... I don't even play consoles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Turkatron
United Mining And Distribution
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 -
[9800]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Turkatron? Is it your creation? Fantastic piece of communication!
Indeed.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 -
[9801]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This may very well affect DUST and WoD
I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?
Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?
What customers?
You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement? --------
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Gerth Dopple
Hole Spectors
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:36:00 -
[9802]
Originally by: Bureau Crat CCP's business plan: 1: Lie to players. 2: Try to sneak gamebreaking feature past players. 3: Do not respond to Threadageddon by outraged players who caught wind of lies [See 1] 4: ??? 5: Profit!!11!
Am I getting this right?
Picked the wrong character to post with </failposting> _________________________________________________________________
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SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:37:00 -
[9803]
Originally by: Abrazzar
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny This may very well affect DUST and WoD
I was just thinking about this...If this is how CCP treat its Flag ship customers, what are they going to be like when Dust 514 and WoD comes out?
Will they treat them with the disdane and out right arrogance?
What customers?
You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?
OMG sry lol don't linch me please Im on your side lol
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Harpalyce Dynameos
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 -
[9804]
Originally by: CCP Pann Edited by: CCP Pann on 24/06/2011 00:50:29 Like I said, I wonÆt be able to answer all of your questions tonight, but I promise weÆll start getting some info out tomorrow. As I see it, the chief complaint is regarding the high cost of goods in the Noble Market. Second, many people are unhappy about the CaptainÆs Quarters. Third, there are some performance issues with Incarna.
You mean this?
Originally by: CCP Zulu
Weæll continue monitoring the forums and other communications channels and pick up and reply if there are concerns not covered by this blog.
Then giving us... exactly what you said you wouldn't do anymore? I have yet to see anything other than Zulu's snob dev blog as a response to the fans and then utter silence, like the norm...
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Ahernar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 -
[9805]
1 .I like walking in station . Probably becouse i just upgraded . 2 I hate AUR with passion . Awfull ideea CCP , I think like with the subprime crisis your risk management team made a mistake . You are going to lose revenue .A Plex for a shirt , Monocle for 75$ , don't you KNOW that your majority of players are poor in game and you must make your game atractive for people to get subbed and stay subbed . 3 Greed is bad . People hate greedy people
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:38:00 -
[9806]
Originally by: Abrazzar
You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?
*cough* *cough* 12yos
I tell ya CCP has this all worked out. We just got here too soon and ruined their party.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc
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Demure Guise
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:39:00 -
[9807]
Edited by: Demure Guise on 26/06/2011 07:40:47 Hey, ÇÇP!
ARE YOU GOING TO SELL NON_VANITY ITEMS VIA MT?
[ ] YES [ ] NO
Would you like the question made any simpler? One simple answer will solve all the fury, one way or another.
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Vastek Non
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:39:00 -
[9808]
Originally by: Vapidity I don't think there is enough that CCP can say via lemmings or anyone else for that matter. This game has been rocked with way too many scandals. CCP getting caught lying all the time...
Who wants to do any kind of business with someone or some entity that has no integrity? CCP is going to have to make some very drastic change here and peel back the curtain.
Oh, and that idiot you guys hired that was a venture capitalist that helped spawn the banking crisis? You might want to get rid of him, too.
I think that 'Idiot' has a 35%? share of the company. He hired them
scum always floats to the top.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:42:00 -
[9809]
Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Abrazzar
You really think anyone with half a braincell will start playing a game of a company that has sunk its flagship with blatant customer mismanagement?
*cough* *cough* 12yos
I tell ya CCP has this all worked out. We just got here too soon and ruined their party.
12 year olds are good for 6 months tops until something new comes out to jump on.
And the WoD fans are some of the most stuck up and spoiled people I have ever encountered. They won't touch anything with a taint that CCP has now. --------
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Algernon Chundleford
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Posted - 2011.06.26 07:42:00 -
[9810]
Edited by: Algernon Chundleford on 26/06/2011 07:44:44 I felt oddly compelled to be a drop in the bucket here. A lot of online games have a fairly docile playerbase, by which I mean the playerbase consists of sheep. It's always been my opinion that EVE Online stands out a bit, in that respect. Possibly owing to the fact that the gameplay is less engaging, it's like some sort of thinking-person's MMO.
A lot of games are beginning to see play to win as a very viable way to do business; because as it turns out most people are fine with it, and there are a chunk of players who will pay top dollar to gain an advantage. Of course, it rubs the passionate few (like you chaps here on the forums that I never post on) the wrong way. What I don't see articulated enough is the reason that it rubs us the wrong way, it's inequality.
On a very basic level, paying to win is unsporting, everyone knows that. It's especially grating that people will pay to win in an environment governed by unique rules that is supposed to be free of outside influences. And of course I can go completely nuts and mention that we as gamers like our internet spaceships because here there are no haves and have nots, here we are all equal, and this is our utopia. But that would be crazy.
On the subject of vanity items, I don't really see the point. I pay CCP roughly $15 per month per account (the math of which I desperately try to avoid doing). Remind me again why I can't make full use of their character customization?
Micro transactions?! In MY eve?!
/unsubscribe
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