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Kendra Wilkinson
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Posted - 2011.07.01 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zarak1 Kenpach1 going down to 2 accounts from 4 for the time being with the option to un sub the last two if i hate what i see next. +1 perpetuum account however.
Originally by: Kilmiester
I've been quiet the past couple days... been playing perpetuum and I even reactivated my *gasp* wow account. I have to say I already miss EVE, but I await the results of the great stall and keep alive my fading hopes that it will be positive. [Edit] I fail at drunkin typing
"Next time, use your brain before spread **** on girlfriend/wife", i hope the server will return "no you cant re-sub cauz you was involved in protest but do you want a monocle ?"
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jaik7
i'm glad that you, being new around here, can tell whats wrong with MT for game changing items. i find it sad that CCP, who has been around from the beginning, can't seem to figure out why.
I'll tell you confirmation bias and yes men. Hilmar's got visions of dollars dancing in his head and is only listening to people who support his belief that MT will be a river of money into their coffers. Apparently Confirmation bias is a cultural trait in Icelandic men.
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Ranita Drell
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:23:00 -
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It seems unlikely to me at this point that CCP will let the NeX store completely bypass the player-based economy by having NeX work as a vending machine for usable gear that requires only aurum as currency. Of course, CCP has surprised me before with some of their shenanigans.
We've already been told that they want to add blueprint/item trade-in functionality to NeX (ostensibly for vanity ships). So they could have it so if you want to buy a 425mm 'Noble' Autocannon the store would require that you pay a 425mm Autocannon II (or maybe some faction gun) plus 750 aurum.
This will still have an affect on the economy though, because any item they introduce will be competing in the market with any item of comparable power/utility. It could also increase demand for whatever items are needed for trade-ins in the NeX store, which could give a boost to certain areas of the economy, including aspects of industry.
So I could see the introduction of non-vanity MT goods being non-ruinous in its impact, but it's a can of worms that I'd hate to see opened. No matter how you cut it, selling non-vanity ships, ammo and equipment would involve injecting value/power directly and immediately into the game with real life money, something that doesn't happen with the current P2W scheme enabled through PLEX. I don't know if that would end up actually being a big deal or not, but it would entail EVE losing some of its "purity" and I can imagine that things could get out of control.
So while I can't pretend that I'd be able to anticipate all of the outcomes of this proposal or that, one I do know for certain is that even the threat of non-vanity items on the horizon makes me feel a lot less enthusiastic about the game. And of course EVE has other issues, and there's nothing that's been released recently, or which has been announced for the near future that seems all that exciting to me. I could also see the game further suffering as some of the game's most active and invested members of the community quit or start playing less. A fail cascade, more or less.
Word out of the summit from the CSM sounds pretty optimistic. I hope that's justified, but I'm skeptical. What I really am hoping for more than anything else is that they announce something definitive -- something that will make me happy about keeping my subscription active, or a clear signal that EVE isn't the game for me.
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:30:00 -
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CCP tool kit
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Raknarg Valklear
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:22:00 -
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bump
$$cashellence$$
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shilpi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:53:00 -
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Any news from CSM - Greed Is Good meeting? I hope that CSM doesn't bends backwards to accommodate CCP, but instead truly represents feelings of player base. I think I am from one of those many players who are waiting for this meeting results to come out.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:06:00 -
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Good morning.
So we're supposed to get a message from the CSM today, is that still true?
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd Good morning.
So we're supposed to get a message from the CSM today, is that still true?
Yes, though likely later in the day I would suspect. They said they had a full day scheduled.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Canasa
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:33:00 -
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On another note... It's the weekend. We know how to riot. If they give the right answer, how do we party?
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Sellendis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Canasa On another note... It's the weekend. We know how to riot. If they give the right answer, how do we party?
Same we always do, light Jita on fire.
Free Helicity Boson
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Canasa
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:49:00 -
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If this posted before, sorry. You know how it is.
If I have to leave I will spread my billions far and wide. If all the seniors who have no intention to return do the same, wouldn't this reduce demand for plex? Maybe our iskies could hit back just a little...
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Canasa On another note... It's the weekend. We know how to riot. If they give the right answer, how do we party?
If the right answers would have been a realistic option for them, they would have said them long before now. No matter what the outcome it's going to be a mix of good and bad and everyone is going to have to decide personally if what they hear is good enough. The actual details of the meeting might also take weeks before they are published to us.
Personally I predict no major change on the MT store front, but minor concessions will be made, so CCP can be seen as being willing to compromise and listen to their customers. It will mean some will quit because CCP once again tries to dodge the actual issues and won't commit to anything concrete concerning them(might be a good drinking game to see how many times they try to give the impression of saying what people want to hear, without actually saying it), but most will stay, since CCP will give some vague promises backed by optimistic statements made by the CSM.
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Kailithi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 09:53:00 -
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The three words from CSM posts on Twitter that stuck in my head from yesterday were:
'LOUD PASSIONATE BUTTHURT'
It is not an image I like on my head, thank you!
Today, given they are being told, sorry, negotiating from an point of existing butthurt, where the Noble items are progressing to (to milk so they can increase CCP's revenues to pay for Dust and WoD)...
*shrugs* We shall see, but once trust is lost it is never truly regained, and it has been lost.
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.07.01 09:57:00 -
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LOUD PASSIONATE BUTTHURT sounds like a great corp name.
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Genie ExTS
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Genie ExTS on 01/07/2011 10:14:30 ok ,call me stupid , but after all those CSM posts I really could not understand was this question answered?
ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE NON-VANITY ITEMS INTO THE NEX MARKET?
ERT ¦+ A- FARA TIL KYNNA NON - H+G+MAGIRND ATRI-I INN - the NEX Marka=ur?
GAAT U DE PUNTEN VAN DE NIET-IJDELHEID IN DE MARKT NEX INTRODUCEREN?
WERDEN SIE NON-VANITY EINZELTEILE IN DEN NEX MARKT VORSTELLEN?
STATE ANDANDO ILLUSTRARE I PUNTI DI NON-VANITY NEL MERCATO DI NEX?
ALLEZ-VOUS PR+SENTER DES POINTS DE NON-VANITY DANS LE MARCH+ DE NEX ?
VOC- EST- INDO INTRODUZIR ARTIGOS DE NON-VANITY NO MERCADO DE NEX?
+USTED VA A INTRODUCIR ART-CULOS DE NON-VANITY EN EL MERCADO DE NEX?
ВЫ ИДЕТЕ НЕ ВВЕСТИ НИКАКИЕ ДЕТАЛИ ТЩЕТЫ В РЫНОК NEX??
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Jimmy Duce
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:30:00 -
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Quote:
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
Greed, is so distructive...
This question is for Eve and Eve only, I don't care if I can buy gold ammo for DUST players, as long as that isn't implemented in Eve we are cool. Hell use your legal team to come up with the answer specifying that other games that influence Eve may have gold ammo but Eve itself never will.
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bucktooth
Caldari Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:37:00 -
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(Having only read the first post) - At the end of the day CCP are going to lose out because of this due to people unsubscribing because they haven't the computer performace to dock...as you said...a little more thought was needed so slowing down the development would have been a good idea, as at the end of the day ccp are in it to make money and little else.
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caldar ian
Final Destination.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: the eve community
Quote:
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
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Bio: Incarna burnt my motherboard and cpu out : ( |
Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.07.01 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Smagd on 01/07/2011 11:26:54
Originally by: the eve community
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
Say yes, choose as many words as you like. I dare you.
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Danastar
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Smagd Edited by: Smagd on 01/07/2011 11:26:54
Originally by: the eve community
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
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Cursan Voran
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: the eve community
Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
CSM dont suck ccp ****s, get an answer to this.
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YarrMama
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: YarrMama So CCP will post some BS response 2 minutes before they shut down for the day and hope that this will all go away by monday. Anyone taking bets?
I'm having flashbacks from last friday and the wait for an answer. I'll just repost what I said then.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:27:00 -
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My guess is CCP does see the light on the vanity/non-vanity issue. They can't answer it as a complete no because of dust. And it has to be carefully answered as it relates to "establishments" ... just a guess, who knows.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Canasa On another note... It's the weekend. We know how to riot. If they give the right answer, how do we party?
\o/ disco party at the jita 4-4 undock!! =========================
Originally by: CCP Games, 2010 Creation is so precious; and greed, so destructive. Your choices can make a diference
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Jimmy Duce
Navy of Xoc
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy My guess is CCP does see the light on the vanity/non-vanity issue. They can't answer it as a complete no because of dust. And it has to be carefully answered as it relates to "establishments" ... just a guess, who knows.
I included Dust in the answer. If you are taking a test and someone gives you the answer would you still choose to put down the incorrect response?
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Are you moving beyond VANITY AUR items?
Greed, is so distructive...
This question is for Eve and Eve only, I don't care if I can buy gold ammo for DUST players, as long as that isn't implemented in Eve we are cool. Hell use your legal team to come up with the answer specifying that other games that influence Eve may have gold ammo but Eve itself never will.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Vandrion on 01/07/2011 13:14:18 I sense we are being set up for surprise buttsex from Ron Jeremy sporting an 80 grit trojan!
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Graava
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:23:00 -
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Well I see that the guys at Perpetuum are making their own call on this.
ATM there is a hardware upgrade going on so they don't get caught with their pants down if there is a mass exodus. That sure seems like putting your money where your mouth is.
BTW you can spin your robot to your hearts content
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Graava
BTW you can spin your robot to your hearts content
Well, you can spin a transparent blue hologram of your robot.
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Vandrion
Gallente The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Saving Face
Originally by: Graava
BTW you can spin your robot to your hearts content
Well, you can spin a transparent blue hologram of your robot.
Isn't that better then the useless hologram we can't spin????
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Wonder Pets
Caldari The Executioners
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vandrion Edited by: Vandrion on 01/07/2011 13:14:18 I sense we are being set up for surprise buttsex from Ron Jeremy sporting an 80 grit trojan!
It could be worse.... but John Holmes is dead.
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