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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:47:00 -
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Everybody keep an eye on the CCP recruitment pages :)
There should be maybe more churn there, perhaps even reductions
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Dave Hourai
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Leo Spaceman
Originally by: Aries Darkstar Ill try to be short as the text walls here are insane.
CCP have shown they are interested in money more than in the respect and opinions of their paying customers. As such we as a community have an opportunity to get a message to them very clearly.
To all the people saying they are un-subbing their accounts. Go and un-sub them. We will be sending them one of two messages today. The first, if we SAY we are un-subbing but donÆt, will be that we donÆt actually care and they can do or say whatever they like and we will continue to pay. The second, if we actually go and un-sub, will tell them in no uncertain terms that this is NOT ok and we arenÆt push-over n00bs to be trifled with.
Again, go and un-sub, when the CEO comes into work to find even 10% of accounts have been un-subbed they WILL reply and they WILL consider the repercussions of making changes like this.
`Aries
^^ This
Originally by: Doctor Leo Spaceman
Originally by: Aries Darkstar Ill try to be short as the text walls here are insane.
CCP have shown they are interested in money more than in the respect and opinions of their paying customers. As such we as a community have an opportunity to get a message to them very clearly.
To all the people saying they are un-subbing their accounts. Go and un-sub them. We will be sending them one of two messages today. The first, if we SAY we are un-subbing but donÆt, will be that we donÆt actually care and they can do or say whatever they like and we will continue to pay. The second, if we actually go and un-sub, will tell them in no uncertain terms that this is NOT ok and we arenÆt push-over n00bs to be trifled with.
Again, go and un-sub, when the CEO comes into work to find even 10% of accounts have been un-subbed they WILL reply and they WILL consider the repercussions of making changes like this.
`Aries
^^ This
Aries, hey man o/
He is correct guys and gals, if we don't take this seriously we are letting them do exactly what they said they are going to do in Fearless: Greed is Good. It does not take long to resub if/when they get their heads out of their rears. And if you are not paying, you are not losing out on training time. Play some other games, post some Vent servers we can all get in to discuss the matter, take some time to see where the chips fall. We all love EVE and will return when CCP has seen the error of its ways.
-3 accounts from me, see you all on the other side! No Virtue, No Vice. No Beginning, No End. |
Kali Doom
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Constantinus Maximus
Originally by: Glyken Touchon re-posting from another of my posts as this thread seems to be getting Dev attention.
ROFL!
Wow.... Big SQL query just run on the forums, looped the CPU for at least 30sec and thread moves back a bunch of posts.
Seems they are just running queries with mixes of keywords.
So I wonder what they deleted?
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Phollocks
Gallente Before the Dawn
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tehlana Riolis Edited by: Tehlana Riolis on 24/06/2011 10:43:13
Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye
To make the question clear:
Will there ever be in-game items (ships, mods, ammo, etc) OR specific mechanics (faction, SOV, etc) for purchase using AUR?
Just answer the question, yes or no
Seriously, at this point that's the only question you need to answer ... and it needs to be answered NOW.
As has already been said, the fact that they've not answered means the answer is one we don't want to hear and they're trying to think of how best to present it.
I won't buy for a second that it's such a massive and obsecure issue that absolutely no one in CCP knows whether this is in the pipeline or not to give a straight answer. It's literally... yes or no. The fact that there's no "no" means it's a "yes" they don't want to give us yet.
Either that or they're considering whether to drop the idea - which means it was going to be a yes, but now it might not be.
Prepare yourselves.
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DeathCam
Unicorn Love Club
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:48:00 -
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So what is this....90 pages in 11 hours or something like that?
Still nothing from CCP that could be called an answer. Really getting the impression you dont care and are not going to change your minds on any of the stuff you have been called out on. Pretty frikkin dissappointed in a game I have loved and recommended to so many people. All I have to say now about Eve is bad.
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Shandir
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:48:00 -
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As a small aside - since it seems that people are going to be answering us tomorrow (saturday) - any dev who is being made to deal with the community rage during the weekend should be getting PAID properly and not crapped on from above (his/her bosses) and below(us). -
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Doom Sentinel
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:48:00 -
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Everyone who is annoyed or upset with CCP, the only way to send them a message is to hit that little cancel subscription button in account management.
Please do it, for the sake of saving a game we all love.
THE MICE ARE ROARING CCP.
https://secure.eveonline.com/CancelSubscription.aspx People, start linking this page at the bottom of all your posts.
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Sur Jamkar
Z3R0 RETURN MINING INC. Rura-Penthe
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: Los Quinton
Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK
C'mon CCP. We're EVE players. You won't outwit us. If we preferred the games where you run around and bonk rats over the head with a stick, maybe you could pull one over on us. But EVE is a community of clever b@stards, and you need to understand that we are a force to be reckoned with.
If you coloectively quit, where yall gonna go? CCP has two other products coming which engages two different types of player bases. This rage is nonsense.
Two other products that are associated with CCP. The thing about the gaming community is that if a company upsets their player base badly enough it's not just going to effect the game that's at the heart of the dispute it will effect all that company's games as the dispute itself in not over the game but over that company's behaviour/ideas over the game at the heart of the dispute.
You also have to remember that people recommend games in the gaming world and if the company's behaviour has been seen to be some what under handed then it's not just going to be Eve that is not recommended it will be all the games associated with the company.
Star Wars Galaxies is a prime example.
___________ Sur Jamkar Exclusive Fan Podcast for Eve Online and Dust514 players. Visit http://podlogs.com/Overwatch514 to listen to Overwatch-514. |
lookout2
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:49:00 -
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New players are silly
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Zevas
Infinite Origins
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:49:00 -
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The MT idea needs to die now.
CQ has potential but needs to be optional until it actually becomes useful or purposeful and in any case I think having the option to wander around your quarters or spin your ship would be nice.
I do not like the direction this is headed but I am not cancelling my subscription until CCP decide and tell us what direction they are going. But carry on this path and my money will be going elsewhere.
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Kary Tamona
Crom Demons
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:49:00 -
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I love my years old characters because I know how much effort they represent. If CCP would magically improve my standings or skills in exchange for money I wouldn't bother. I love Eve because it is hard and game play is meaningful.
Dumb it down and Eve will stop being unique.
__________________________________ My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Jacen Aris
Caldari Sphere Systems Obsidian Fusion
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:49:00 -
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I would like to see a time line of what content is going to be deployed over the course of this expansion. and when i say content i mean the stuff involving spaceships? remember that? spaceships? not walking around a cupboard.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:49:00 -
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I do hope the blog will help end this crisis. 90 pages shows just how concerned the community is about this issue.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: DeathCam So what is this....90 pages in 11 hours or something like that?
Plus the other 80 pages in first 24 hours, plus the posts which have been deleted, plus the massive deletions from the devblog thread.
His name was John Turbefield! Truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details. FREE HELICITY |
Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:50:00 -
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Bump
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536432
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ISquishWorms
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tehlana Riolis Edited by: Tehlana Riolis on 24/06/2011 10:43:13
Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye
To make the question clear:
Will there ever be in-game items (ships, mods, ammo, etc) OR specific mechanics (faction, SOV, etc) for purchase using AUR?
Just answer the question, yes or no
Seriously, at this point that's the only question you need to answer ... and it needs to be answered NOW.
Their YES or NO means nothing to me any more once a liar always a liar!
If NO we need this in something binding like the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
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Kamikaze Jihawty
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kez Aumer
Originally by: Kamikaze Jihawty CCP Pann fo shizzle is not a hero. Just doing the job of a PR is all.
Quite. Comparing her situation to Tiggs on the SoE boards is absurd. One spoke for as well at to the players, the other is 'just a mouthpiece'.
Also, 90 fucking pages?
I never compared Pann with Tiggs. I compared this game with SWG. Both games now have histories of not listening to the player base to a point of implosion.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Wacktopia on 24/06/2011 10:51:45 This is so far down the pile it is likely to to be read. But since I have un-subbed and writted a lot of stuff on this in this forum I should probably summarise my thoughts here in breif.
1) Make MT items real cheap ($2.50?) you'll sell loads and no-one will care 2) Be honest and open about whether ships will appear in the NeX 3) Implement Dock > Hangar/Shipspin > CQ (Dock > CQ is immersion breaking and a pain) 4) Make clothes be lost on podding (another immersion breaker)
Think that was it.
Thanks for the post. My account burns today I think but I'll watch this space and re-sub if these items are addressed in part at least.
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Captain Travaras
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar I do hope the blog will help end this crisis. 90 pages shows just how concerned the community is about this issue.
90 pages and growing
Someone pointed out that the only people who are unhappy are those here posting on the forum, and everyone else is fine with the changes. I bet there are many people playing eve right now who are blissfully unaware of whats happening here and what CCP seem to have in mind for the future.
Quote: Greed is good, didnt you get the memo?
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Ancy Denaries
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine 4. The leaked CCP newsletter is deeply worrying because it does appear to break promises made by CCP to the CSM (and via them to the wider Eve community). It shows massive disrespect to our community and makes it painfully clear that Eve players are simply viewed as a cash cow to be relentlessly milked to fund other ventures.
The PR damage from this leak is immense in terms of broken trust and hurt feelings and it will take more than simple apologies to repair û I think the Eve community will need to see and be convinced that these terrible ideas will be abandoned so we can return to our subscription-based sandbox unthreatened by Gorden Gecko and his macro-transactional madness.
I believe you need to re-engage with Eve community via the CSM and devblogs, developer-chats etc and actively win us back at this point. I certainly need to hear that you are turning from the destructive path of greedy money-grubbing microtransactions for everything with one hand while you continue to take my subscription money with the other. I need to get my faith in CCP the company back.
5. Finally, the principle that microtransactions could be widened to include balance-breaking advantages for cash payments on top of the subscription is simply untenable in this environment. The impact of doing this will be many lost subscriptions to the perception you are double-charging people for content and breaking the gameplay integrity of the single server environment. You will spoil a gameworld that has been eight years in the making as the Noble Exchange has already begun to spoil our sensation of the sandbox and as the rushed incomplete terrible-looking CQ has damaged our collective suspension of disbelief.
If you must go down this route then Eve will eventually need to go free-to-play and you will have to exist entirely on microtransactions for everything. But I think we both know this is not going to fly. I strongly advise you to take the message back to the management that if you are short of cash simply look at upping the subscription fee rather than messing with the sandbox in this destructively short-sighted manner.
$70 dollar monocles or ôgold torpedoesö will not bring the crowds flooding into Incarna. People join games because they are original, accessible and fun. That is why World of Tanks works û not because the developers there are offering bling tank-decals for premium bucks!
CCP already have a unique IP in the worldÆs biggest single-server science-fiction simulation sandbox. Stop trying to copy the bloody fairy sparkle ponies in Wow! Put your minds back on Eve Online front and centre and finish the content we need finishing and stop trying to force-feed us with microtransaction-delivered immersion-breaking rubbish. You have a loyal and passionate player base right now. Work a bit at keeping us.
Monocle-gate has made CCP the laughing stock of the gaming industry.
Listening to the player base and stepping back from the egotistical insanities of the "greed-is-good" brink will be the one thing you can actually do that deserves to be called ôfearless" at this point.
Quoting this because it's exactly what we feel. Incarna has little less to do with it. It's the direction EVE is taking that is the big scare. ---- The Demigodess with a Conscience - An EVE IC Blog
Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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dj ore
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:52:00 -
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210882 reads in less than an hour!
Yes we want some vision of the future, some of us have put years into this game!
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OmgNoFreeNames
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: OmgNoFreeNames on 24/06/2011 10:53:01 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536406
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Cherry Miranda
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:52:00 -
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Well if your not playing any more, feel free to contract it to me. I'll make use of it. Thanks.
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Travaras
Originally by: Zachstar I do hope the blog will help end this crisis. 90 pages shows just how concerned the community is about this issue.
90 pages and growing
Someone pointed out that the only people who are unhappy are those here posting on the forum, and everyone else is fine with the changes. I bet there are many people playing eve right now who are blissfully unaware of whats happening here and what CCP seem to have in mind for the future.
Unaware until they can no longer get their stuff with ISK and warp into a paywall :)
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Max Gades
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Max Gades on 24/06/2011 10:54:23
Originally by: Miilla
Eve is dying.
Let me guess all the plex's you got through the buy the fully fitted hulk contract scam are tied up in aur now and cant get it back and the fact that no one will buy a pair of pants for 400-600 mil the outlandish prices? come on Miilla.
The moment that PDF hit the net and the devs learned the cat was out the bag CCP knew WE THE PLAYERS! would burn them at the stake.
If you didnt do the aur good on you. sell sell sell for other stuff.
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Aldap
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:53:00 -
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So MMOs to chose from these days... Yes, Eve is unique. But dear CCP, you are not untouchable. You won't shrug this one off.
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Milkmy Sausage
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:54:00 -
[2727]
Originally by: Phollocks
Originally by: Tehlana Riolis Edited by: Tehlana Riolis on 24/06/2011 10:43:13
Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye
To make the question clear:
Will there ever be in-game items (ships, mods, ammo, etc) OR specific mechanics (faction, SOV, etc) for purchase using AUR?
Just answer the question, yes or no
Seriously, at this point that's the only question you need to answer ... and it needs to be answered NOW.
As has already been said, the fact that they've not answered means the answer is one we don't want to hear and they're trying to think of how best to present it.
I won't buy for a second that it's such a massive and obsecure issue that absolutely no one in CCP knows whether this is in the pipeline or not to give a straight answer. It's literally... yes or no. The fact that there's no "no" means it's a "yes" they don't want to give us yet.
Either that or they're considering whether to drop the idea - which means it was going to be a yes, but now it might not be.
Prepare yourselves.
hand hovering over cancel sub button waiting for answer I don't want to hear.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:54:00 -
[2728]
Any news yet ?
Finished at page 68 jumped to 91 ...
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Ghost Nightmare
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ghost Nightmare on 24/06/2011 10:55:27 http://eveexitsurvey.questionpro.com/
(that's the official exit survey, i received it in an email from CCP)
If you are unsubbing your accounts, take the survey and tell CCP why you did it.
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.24 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: ISquishWorms Their YES or NO means nothing to me any more once a liar always a liar!
If NO we need this in something binding like the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
Oh, there's ways to it. I'm talking legal action. Introducing MT like they are planning to will invalidate years of meaningful gameplay, thus years of subscription fees. At this point, reasonable conduct just falls on dead silence. Hit them where it hurts.
Donations accepted: 1BpQEYT7aSUNM863BV67FPxyv1cpxr74uu | http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535011 |
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