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Iksobarg
Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:04:00 -
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This thread delivers nothing. Cool off, think straight and try again.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar Jukebox Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:13:07 Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:10:47 About: 'You can buy all the AUR item ingame also with isk.' Yes, true but only as long as someone is selling them.
You can manufacture all the other items ingame without the need to spend $. That is not true for items from the noble exchange; someone ALWAYS has to pay for them in hard cash regardless if he will sell them ingame for isk or not. THAT is the real problem.
You will not be able to create some ingame items without someone spending hard dollars/euro's on them on top of his subscription.
Edit for spelling
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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:11:00 -
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Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:15:38 Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:15:19 Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:14:49
Originally by: Iksobarg This thread delivers nothing. Cool off, think straight and try again.
I agree.
Make sure the articles quote what you think they do, in the context you think it does. Before you go along with the crowd, make sure you know where they're going and why.
Originally by: DeBingJos Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:13:07 Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:10:47 About: 'You can buy all the AUR item ingame also with isk.' Yes, true but only as long as someone is selling them.
You can manufacture all the other items ingame without the need to spend $. That is not true for items from the noble exchange; someone ALWAYS has to pay for them in hard cash regardless if he will sell them ingame for isk or not. THAT is the real problem.
You will not be able to create some ingame items without someone spending hard dollars/euro's on them on top of his subscription.
Edit for spelling
LOL - he remember what time I leave work and waited to post.
That's just precious.
Someone ALWAYS has to be selling PLEX Someone ALWAYS has to buy PLEX I don't see any problems with that so far. Nothing new once again.
Keep reaching though, it'll give me something to do on my shift tomorrow. I don't mind that you've gone so far from your first post saying it would be required that you pay for items to be competitive. I'll keep arguing with you wherever you backpedal to.
I promise.
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DeBingJos
Minmatar Jukebox Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:22:30
Originally by: VKhaun Vex Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:15:38 Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:15:19 Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 10:14:49
Originally by: Iksobarg This thread delivers nothing. Cool off, think straight and try again.
I agree.
Make sure the articles quote what you think they do, in the context you think it does. Before you go along with the crowd, make sure you know where they're going and why.
Originally by: DeBingJos Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:13:07 Edited by: DeBingJos on 26/06/2011 10:10:47 About: 'You can buy all the AUR item ingame also with isk.' Yes, true but only as long as someone is selling them.
You can manufacture all the other items ingame without the need to spend $. That is not true for items from the noble exchange; someone ALWAYS has to pay for them in hard cash regardless if he will sell them ingame for isk or not. THAT is the real problem.
You will not be able to create some ingame items without someone spending hard dollars/euro's on them on top of his subscription.
Edit for spelling
LOL - he remember what time I leave work and waited to post.
That's just precious.
Someone ALWAYS has to be selling PLEX Someone ALWAYS has to buy PLEX I don't see any problems with that so far. Nothing new once again.
Keep reaching though, it'll give me something to do on my shift tomorrow. I don't mind that you've gone so far from your first post saying it would be required that you pay for items to be competitive. I'll keep arguing with you wherever you backpedal to.
I promise.
I did not wait for you to go for work, honestly I don't care. (Where I am it's sunday and that is in the weekend -> no work)
PLEX is not needed to create anything ingame. I can make every item ingame with coop gameplay and some brains. The NOBLE store invalidates this. I agree: not for vanity items. But the line is very thin and it's just a matter of time before non-vanity items hit the shelves.
I'm trying to create a polite discussion here and I wonder why you have to personally insult people to get your point across. You are allowed to have your own opinion of course, but so am I.
Edit again for fail spelling (not a native english speaker here)
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Garr Samuel
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Garr Samuel on 26/06/2011 11:30:27 DeBingJos, you butthurt since you can't buy a monocle? Well little "man", remember that not everyone can buy a titan either. Can you comprehend this? Noone is forcing you to buy the clothes, like noone is forcing you to buy a titan... It's your choice, only diffrence there is that expensive clothes is a vanity item and only purpose is how you want to be perceived by others. And if your so vain, that's your problem.
Buy it or not, simple. Im not gonna buy it, im not a brand guy. Maybe you are...
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Riedle
Minmatar Paradox Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.26 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: VKhaun Vex Edited by: VKhaun Vex on 26/06/2011 02:35:54
Originally by: Tea Ester Elliot I take it you:
a. Didn't follow recent developments in the devblog b. Didn't read any of the leaked (confirmed legit) material c. Don't have a clue how the player economy works d. All of the above
It's too bad that looks so good to say, but you can't actually articulate any of it for yourself since you haven't thought it through. If you had, you wouldn't be making a fool of yourself here.
One guy has already tried in this thread and been shot down completely, since they don't say what they would have to in order for you to be even close to correct.
You got mad. You comitted too hard to the hype without thinking it through. Now you just see what you want to see in any link someone throws out so you don't have to reconsider your position.
The player economy can't change if nothing is changed. You haven't shown how anything is changed by Aurum at all, since PLEX/ISK already mixes real life money and has for years.
Market prices changing because new items are valuable would happen with any content being added, regardless of what currency it's listed under because all currencies are interchangeable allowing you to buy it with whatever you want through conversion of ISK->PLEX->AUR->ISK->PLEX. Adding the item for Aur, regardless of what it is, doesn't hurt anything any more then adding for ISK.
---- Obvious Disclaimer... an item that's bad for balance would clearly cause a balance issue. We're talking markets not game design. I can't help if CCP puts out an OP new ship or never helps hybrid turrets. :P
While i agree that a lot of the rage is at best, premature - there IS a large difference between thr plex situation now and the Aura being introduced.
Currently you can buy plex by doing in game activities - hence the plex is part of player driven - IN GAME capitalism. Aura for in game ships etc has no direct connection to the in game economy and thusly, it is a much different beast.
As well, the monacle and clothing should be destroyable when you are podded just like implants are. make them 1/10 the price and destroyable and a lot of the rage goes away. Alternatively, just get rid of Aura as a currency and do this through the plex system - the in game market.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2011.06.26 15:02:00 -
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Thread is locked for trolling.
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