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Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Ayieka on 25/06/2011 20:50:21 you also have to look at the bad publicity, as well as the fact that most new people don't have fun playing eve :D
Anon Forumalt6858	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers You're weighting your stats incorrectly. The departing subscriptions are hardcore and loyal players that hold multiple accounts and have been with this game for years. The influx of subscriptions are new players coming into a game that is very complex and not exactly newbie-friendly. An old axiom comes to mind. "One in the hand is worth two in the bush." CCP would be wise to realize that. - His name was John Turbefield! CCP: We are adults who wage economic, social, and tactical warfare on each other for fun. Don't **** with us.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [33] 100% of SWG players got ****ed by NGE. That is a factual statistic. Thanks for playing OP. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Zhula Guixgrixks	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [34] Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 25/06/2011 20:51:55 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Military experts call it : "months of research by a group of highly competent professionals"
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [35] https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AtUHbyNk0JSGdHR1TDhrRVhhQTUzLUMyVTNZdjJUaHc&output=html Up to 2500 and thats just from people who visit the forums. So your 3500 is probably a understatement. However your 35000 is laughable, and the fact that Eve has the worst turnover rate it wont help CCP much.
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Michelle Vega 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Why deny them the pleasure? If they've got something better to do than shoot at an indestructable structure for hours on end they're free to go do it. Maybe like going back out to nullsec and shoot at a near indestructable structure for hours on end.
Kaethe Kollwitz	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [37] Originally by: Anon Forumalt6858 One in the hand is worth two in the bush prawn tangent spotted
Don Aubaris	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [38] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers You seem to forget how it will impact you. that 1 new player is not the same as 1 old player. 10 new players are not the same as 1 old one. You think a new player will have the same impact on the market? Will have the same experience at leading corps, mission, productions,... Less stuff created/Acquired means higher prices. So you gonna pay for years to get back at the current level of market efficiency.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 - [39] i think most people that join eve did it by recommendation of a friend, this will cease.
Feligast Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 25/06/2011 20:51:55 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass Military experts call it : "months of research by a group of highly competent professionals" :golfclap: Well played, sir.

RiskyFrisky Interrobang Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [41] Chribba quit. My whole corp has unsubscribed. I'm letting my sub run out. - More than 3500 people are quitting, and along with them, thousands more of accounts. Stop pulling statistics out of your ass.
Vaarun Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Theocrates GO BACK TO YOUR DOLLHOUSE AND PLAY DRESSUP!!! Actually, if we get a new influx of players who are here just to feed the CCosmetic coffers, so be it. The DUSTies can play on the ground. The MONO-DOLLS can play in the stations. And the rest of us can keep doing what we do in our ships. I have no problem with attracting console or fashion-based players to the EVE universe. I have a problems with paying for non-cosmetic upgrades that can give anyone an advantage. Extra ship slots is not a game-killer, but it's a slippery-slope I'd rather not step onto. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees." -Vaarun
Speaker4 theDead	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:56:00 - [43] Yes, I can certainly see how a $70 Monicle will add value to this game. I see Wow kids coming in droves.....
Pherick Sjang Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.25 20:59:00 - [44]
RiskyFrisky Interrobang Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:11:00 - [45] Originally by: Pherick Sjang YES! JUST YES! You sir win an internet.
Michelle Vega	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 - [46] You ragewhiners are all just jealous, don't get enough attention IRL or poor. The vast of us don't care about the changes otherwise we would also be here with all our 1 day old alts. I'm guessing only 30-40 actual players are whining here.
SilentSkills Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:13:00 - [47] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers wrong, if those 3500 people(wild amount) quit, those 3500 people will put up so much bad press that anyone in their friend circle wont join. I for one intend to prevent anyone I know from joining EVE until its fixed. MonocleMonocle The door thread - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID
CCFAIL	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Michelle Vega Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. Give me a CCP flag and I'll burn it.
Covet Strain	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:26:00 - [49] 100% loss of customer respect.
Covet Strain	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Brooks Puuntai https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AtUHbyNk0JSGdHR1TDhrRVhhQTUzLUMyVTNZdjJUaHc&output=html Up to 2500 and thats just from people who visit the forums. So your 3500 is probably a understatement. However your 35000 is laughable, and the fact that Eve has the worst turnover rate it wont help CCP much. That spreadsheet is not complete. My name isn't on it.

Tappits North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers What planet are you on. dont something likr 90% of new people quit after 6 weeks or something? Looseing 5000 longterm players is much worse than getting 35k 6weekers. ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶
Kaethe Kollwitz	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:34:00 - [52] Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat?
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Tappits What planet are you on. dont something likr 90% of new people quit after 6 weeks or something? Looseing 5000 longterm players is much worse than getting 35k 6weekers. Exactly, CCP should so something about the new player experience, not get them a box to walk in and a AUR store.
gdjghjhgjfh	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [54] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny 87.4% of statistics are pulled straight out of someone's ass 97% are proven to be in the 5th dimension
Tappits North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [55] Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat? What? Is this true? ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶
Brooks Puuntai Minmatar Nomadic Asylum	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:35:00 - [56] Edited by: Brooks Puuntai on 25/06/2011 21:36:05 Originally by: Covet Strain That spreadsheet is not complete. My name isn't on it. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536495 Post it there. edit: Don't believe any rumors about Chribba unless you hear it from him. He hasn't said anything about quitting at this time.
Randal Eirikr	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz Originally by: RiskyFrisky Chribba quit. wat? Confirm? O_o
Mr Mickey	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Michelle Vega Edited by: Michelle Vega on 25/06/2011 20:42:23 Don't you "i'm quiting eve" threaterners get it? Even if 3500 subs quit (ok a wildly overestimate amount) it isn't going to affect CCP at all. what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. You might as well quit your protests. 90% of the people in these protests are just in it for the ride and the thrill of doing something different in Eve. Not like on the news where people burn american flags and protest kind of mentallity. But whatever tickles your bones, go for it. Edit: fixed numbers BUT DOES IT MAKE IT WRIGHT...... MAKE YOUR MIND UP~!
Yabba Addict	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:28:00 - [59] Originally by: Michelle Vega what they are introducing is going to bring in 35000 more subs. heh..heheheh..hehehhehahahaahah.......bwaaaaahahahahahahahaha..heheheh...hmmmmm I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I'm a machine! And I can know much more.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:29:00 - [60] Let's do some maths! 1500 unsubs 750 of these are people saying something like "-2 character". We all know there are 3 characters per subscription. 100 of these are outright lies, and people posting multiple times with different alts. 650 unsubs. 500 of these people will resubscribe. 150 unsubs total due to lies and hot air.



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