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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:19:00 -
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Any sort of non disclosure agreement for the CSM meeting is unacceptable. The meeting has to be recorded, live streamed, documented etc. to make sure you're not screwing us over now, or in the future.
We don't trust you CCP and the CSM meeting is your last chance.
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Novak Sarin
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:20:00 -
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/agrees
Some transparency for once please?
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Any sort of non disclosure agreement for the CSM meeting is unacceptable. The meeting has to be recorded, live streamed, documented etc. to make sure you're not screwing us over now, or in the future.
We don't trust you CCP and the CSM meeting is your last chance.
If it's any consolation, they don't trust you either.
Mr Epeen
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:21:00 -
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Yeah, cause that will happen after all the nonsense speculation that brewed out of that internal newsletter. Good thinking.
HABIT
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:22:00 -
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/sign
I agree on this. You can hold a private meeting AFTER the public one on extremely sensitive issues like game design, etc that shouldn't be made public. Or before. Whichever you prefer.
The point is, we need transparency now, if CCP is to regain the playerbase's trust.
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Urah Dedman
Minmatar DEEP-13
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:22:00 -
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Totally agree. Enough BS twofaced doubletalk. Wide open meeting. live. uncensored.
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:22:00 -
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While I'd love to see the type of transparency your talking about, even I have to say it's an unreasonable request. I can't think of another company that would even hold the door open to their players. The CSM sees things that, for good reason, the average player shouldn't see.
Let them do their job and report back so we can make up our minds.
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Mekhana
Gallente Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:23:00 -
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Broadcast it live like the AT. You guys don't need to make it flashy.
However if the CSM would like to ask questions made by the community or be asked questions by the community they could do that on the spot too.
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Amthor Khaji
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:24:00 -
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/signed. |
Arkanus Malstrom
Amarr Liquid Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:24:00 -
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I support this fully. We have to know exactly to what our representatives are agreeing. This incident shows us that there needs to be more transparency in the CCP/Player relationship. That said, CCP should know the score and that a majority of the player base are against any sort of "gold items" ammo, vanity, or otherwise.
If anything that has an impact on gameplay elements, that is, that is not simply aesthetic, could be purchased via Aurum, I will cease to support CCP with any payments.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:25:00 -
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To OP: don't be daft...first, the CSM is already under NDA. Second, NDA's are perfectly reasonable and should be expected. ~Gnosis~ |
Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: BeanBagKing While I'd love to see the type of transparency your talking about, even I have to say it's an unreasonable request. I can't think of another company that would even hold the door open to their players. The CSM sees things that, for good reason, the average player shouldn't see.
Let them do their job and report back so we can make up our minds.
Why? IS the CSM suddenly 100% representative of the EVE online player base? Is it 50%? Not even close.
It is in CCP's best interest to talk to US. CSM does not have their livelihoods on the line if things go south, CCP does. We want them to talk to the community, not a handful of people we may or may not agree with.
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: BeanBagKing While I'd love to see the type of transparency your talking about, even I have to say it's an unreasonable request. I can't think of another company that would even hold the door open to their players. The CSM sees things that, for good reason, the average player shouldn't see.
Let them do their job and report back so we can make up our minds.
Why? IS the CSM suddenly 100% representative of the EVE online player base? Is it 50%? Not even close.
It is in CCP's best interest to talk to US. CSM does not have their livelihoods on the line if things go south, CCP does. We want them to talk to the community, not a handful of people we may or may not agree with.
Do you know how a democracy works?
You know, people vote for the ones they want to represent them...
HABIT
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Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Boaz Hedion Merkava on 26/06/2011 19:27:47 /signed
In fact, record the damn meeting.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:29:00 -
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would be nice... but I trust the CSM
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Nuhm DeAra
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
I don't trust you CCP and the CSM meeting is your last chance.
I wish you guys would stop speaking for everyone, because the amount of players logged in probably disagree with you.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:30:00 -
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They shoudl SERIOUSLY consider Live Stream.
they can do it for CHESS BOXING but cant do it for SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE TO THE GAME TODAY!!??!?!?!?!?!?
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: J Kunjeh To OP: don't be daft...first, the CSM is already under NDA. Second, NDA's are perfectly reasonable and should be expected.
I'm fine if they cover to-be-developed stuff. When it involves a significant disconnect between CCP and the playerbase, the NDA can and should be ignored.
So this is actually as big of a play for the CSM as well - if any of the CSMs try to use this meeting as an attempt to get more answers on things that have less immediacy (like Sov balancing), it's going to hurt that CSM's reputation.
So by going public with this meeting, both sides have just as much to lose.
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Peter Greed
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:32:00 -
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You know....
This is probably the ONE THING that every single Eve player can agree with.
Not that it matters much, but if this is agreed to, I will personally buy 5 monocles to help fund the trip.
Great idea.
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Haeri
PWNED Factor
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:32:00 -
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Live streaming would be great. (Psst CCP, ad revenue!) null |
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Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Radix Salvilines on 26/06/2011 19:35:32 /SIGNED
not gonna happen
EDIT: on the other hand they might consider selling streaming tokens in Noble Store. You pay one plex and you can watch the live stream...
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Elaine Eza
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Haeri Live streaming would be great. (Psst CCP, ad revenue!)
lol. live stream with commercial breaks for nex shop items |
Peter Greed
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Peter Greed on 26/06/2011 19:34:58 Yes.
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Solus Starcunning
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:35:00 -
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/signed.
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Largo Fate
Minmatar MAFIA
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:36:00 -
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absolutely
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Langoss
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:36:00 -
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i want online TV commentation from CM meeting
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Sick Tight BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: BeanBagKing While I'd love to see the type of transparency your talking about, even I have to say it's an unreasonable request. I can't think of another company that would even hold the door open to their players. The CSM sees things that, for good reason, the average player shouldn't see.
Let them do their job and report back so we can make up our minds.
Why? IS the CSM suddenly 100% representative of the EVE online player base? Is it 50%? Not even close.
It is in CCP's best interest to talk to US. CSM does not have their livelihoods on the line if things go south, CCP does. We want them to talk to the community, not a handful of people we may or may not agree with.
Do you know how a democracy works?
You know, people vote for the ones they want to represent them...
This is a game, not a government.
Originally by: McKinlay When you get on the batphone and the only people left in the phone book are Aeternus and BLAST it might be time to hang up.
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Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mekhana Broadcast it live like the AT. You guys don't need to make it flashy.
However if the CSM would like to ask questions made by the community or be asked questions by the community they could do that on the spot too.
Why cant you do this and take questions via twitter?
Trust is a two way street but secrecy is a massive pothole. We will be eager to help you grow and fix this. People even offered to pay MORE PER MONTH TO HELP!
I however dont believe in double dipping. You want AUR? remove the monthly fee. -
Coffee the Elixir of Life.
CAS 101
Where is my Lab Coat? Monacle??? How about Microscope and Coats for [b]ISK[/ |
Lucilla Giulia
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Do you know how a democracy works?
You know, people vote for the ones they want to represent them...
yes sadly this is not a democracy, we'r talking of a private company, so CSM is more like some sort of Labor Union/Trade Union...
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Ohforgetaboutit
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Originally by: Mekhana Broadcast it live like the AT. You guys don't need to make it flashy.
However if the CSM would like to ask questions made by the community or be asked questions by the community they could do that on the spot too.
Why cant you do this and take questions via twitter?
Trust is a two way street but secrecy is a massive pothole. We will be eager to help you grow and fix this. People even offered to pay MORE PER MONTH TO HELP!
I however dont believe in double dipping. You want AUR? remove the monthly fee.
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