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Courthouse
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.09.16 09:06:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Show Notes:
-Ripard Teg talks about his start in EVE and as a blogger
-Discussion of the CSM6 election and the experience of being a candidate
-Fierce debate over the role of the CSM
-Alek reads controversial parts of RipardGÇÖs latest blog and **** gets real
-Real talk continues over Technetium alchemy and the accomplishments/shortcomings of CSM7
Enjoy!
anything related to eve gameplay other then the tech alchemy thing? not really. On the question of tech though, I put a poll up whether you think Ripard's right and the tech alchemy made things worse than before or the CSM guys were right that it's not The Fix but at least a step in the right direction. Will be interesting to see the results. Posting 2 public discussion threads about voting reform isn't much of a secret conspiracy...
Ya'll's dumb and I shut down the voting thing in like 3 posts. The rest were just me never stopping posting. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:28:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Courthouse wrote:
Ya'll's dumb and I shut down the voting thing in like 3 posts. The rest were just me never stopping posting.
Starts a post with Ya'll's and calls other people dumb  Really sums it up doesn't it.
Figured I'd speak down to your level. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:32:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:But "First the voting reform thread now this" what does that even mean lol?
It means the CSM is a sack of retards regurgitating the same crap to each other over and over in hopes that people will catch on and like you for it. You guys can talk about how hard it is being CSM or how you need to clearly define what the CSM ~is~ with CCP before anything can be done...
Or you can admit that none of you can swing soft power for **** and you're being led around by a guy who made a career in and out of EVE being led around like a bottom ***** to his own detriment and the detriment of everyone around him.
CCP's not the broken part of this scenario. The CSM is. And it's not an institutional problem, it's a problem with the people on it.
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Courthouse
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:So what kind of steps would be needed to address the issue, to avoid a repeat of events like we have just recently observed on these very forums, nay, this very thread ?
You know how you go to grade school and they teach you these patriotic little half-lies like "We celebrate Columbus Day because Christopher Columbus discovered America" or "Isaac Newton discovered gravity when an apple fell and hit him on the head"?
So when you're little that's what you understand. Then you grow up a little and you realize that the real story is like 6 degrees deeper and has all of these connotations attached to them, vis a vis Colombus was inadvertently responsible for mass native deaths or Newton was only 24 when he developed Calculus and he couldn't codify this until he had reasoned out planetary motion and didn't publish a theory of gravity until Principia when he was 45.
These realizations suddenly mean that the depth of knowledge and understanding of the principles related to these formerly simple concepts are vast in comparison to your previous conceptualization and therefore understanding the consequences is a much more complex process.
That's the CSM. The people in there now are still talking about how awesome Columbus was with his 3 ships and their fair trade practices with the natives and how a young newton got bonked on the head and ~magically~ worked out the universal laws of planetary motion right there on the spot.
tl;dr: They're simple figureheads who barely understand the rudimentary parts of what the CSM is and certainly have no concept of how to use it effectively, and that's without going into their complete lack of political understandings or systems of power and influence. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 08:49:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Uh oh. New voting reform proposal from CSM7 in 3 .. 2 .. 1.
Irrelevant, remember?
Epic Vulture: it's been suggested more than once. Vile Rat was to be our candidate for CSM8 and as we're still coming to terms with what that means for us personally and organizationally, making concrete plans about elections to be held in another 6 or 7 months from now with the general level of paranoid schizophrenia coming out of this pack, it seems premature to stake a claim at this time.
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Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.18 05:58:00 -
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rodyas wrote:So, I suppose you could argue no one but him ran, his campaign, but the paranoia runs on.
I managed the campaign during the campaign portion. It's not paranoia, it's phrasing. By "ran" he means "managed". And by campaign he means the period of time between deciding to run, formulating a strategy and managing the day to day of the campaign up until the moment voting closes. |
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