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lilol' me
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:37:00 -
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Seriously after everything that CCP has said and leaked, why should i give a feck if CCP fails. Its shown that CCP no longer care about eve and its players and hasnt for some time. terrible customer service, terrible expansions, and then using eve as a cash cow for WoD and Dust proving these are the games they are looking to the future for. Will I pay extra sub fee for CCP to waste on more other games and not eve NO WAY! its costs enough more than enough Will I buy crappy vanity items to fund other games NO WAY! At least we know why Incarna was really invented, to allow for MT. At least we know now why CCP havent and wont do anything about RMT. Because they cant lose the subscriptions! To be honest I hope CCP do fail, because as a company, and their values as terrible and if you think about it they obviously dont get a feck about us the eve players.... Played this game for 8 years and yeah theres alway been issues with CCP, but now i feel i have been severely bent over and f*cked up the ass...
heres a big middle finger to you CCP..
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Hapaks
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:43:00 -
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+1
i have played eve the first time in 2007.... how we have reach this point? so sad... my support!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:47:00 -
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When CCP bought White Wolf everything went downhill from there. Caving in to investors. Putting the quality staff from EVE into WoD production. The old folks were right, everything was better before.. RL and in EVE.
I blame vampires. And Canada. -
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Alissa Solette
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:49:00 -
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I fully endorse this product and/or service.
+1 middle finger @CCP
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Mr R4nd0m
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:46:00 -
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+1
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Iok Sototh
The Collective B O R G
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:51:00 -
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Go to your account page and cancel your account. When asked why, say "Incarna and MT". You can always re-sub, the cancellation will be noted by CCP, and you will have time before it expires to cancel your cancellation, if needs be. *HOWEVER* it will send a message, LOUD AND CLEAR to CCP, that Incarna is Bad for Business, and they can use this in turn to justify changes to whatever crazy over-ambitious money making plans they have, and explain it to their investors / CEO.
Vote with your feet. Cancel your sub now. Send a message to CCP.
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lilol' me
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: lilol'' me on 30/06/2011 10:55:54
Originally by: Iok Sototh Go to your account page and cancel your account. When asked why, say "Incarna and MT". You can always re-sub, the cancellation will be noted by CCP, and you will have time before it expires to cancel your cancellation, if needs be. *HOWEVER* it will send a message, LOUD AND CLEAR to CCP, that Incarna is Bad for Business, and they can use this in turn to justify changes to whatever crazy over-ambitious money making plans they have, and explain it to their investors / CEO.
Vote with your feet. Cancel your sub now. Send a message to CCP.
I am cancelling...but i think you missing my point, this isnt just about Incarna, this is about CCP as a company overall..and how they have been f*cking us for quite some time now..Release issues arent the problem!
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth When CCP bought White Wolf everything went downhill from there. Caving in to investors. Putting the quality staff from EVE into WoD production. The old folks were right, everything was better before.. RL and in EVE.
I blame vampires. And Canada.
and the Flemish - Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara ß japanska Tfskuverslun.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:24:00 -
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If non-vanity items will be offered for sale at NEX store, I can hardly imagine myself playing the game. I refuse to be ripped off and used by CCP. Either make Eve F2P and offer as much MT stuff as you like or keep MT **** out of Eve. I will not be paying a monthly sub and then some to get access to "premium" game items. As a customer I don't give a damn that CCP had overstretched themselves by trying to develop WoD and Dust, based on only one revenue stream - Eve. I will not be the one paying to bail you out of fail decisions.
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:25:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? Your legacy will help me in my adventure.
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Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:56:00 -
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Agreed that they don't care, and neither should you.
Sorry to see a fellow 8-year-vet go, but what are you going to do?
Canceled subs seems to be the ONLY thing CCP even mildly listens to these days.
Cheers mate in whatever game you eventually land in. *
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:12:00 -
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+1
& +1 for my alt account too.
Thanks for posting
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Evil Stare
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Stare on 30/06/2011 12:43:19
Originally by: Iok Sototh Go to your account page and cancel your account. When asked why, say "Incarna and MT". You can always re-sub, the cancellation will be noted by CCP, and you will have time before it expires to cancel your cancellation, if needs be. *HOWEVER* it will send a message, LOUD AND CLEAR to CCP, that Incarna is Bad for Business, and they can use this in turn to justify changes to whatever crazy over-ambitious money making plans they have, and explain it to their investors / CEO.
Vote with your feet. Cancel your sub now. Send a message to CCP.
You realize this means jack since most of the translucent, fat faced, basement dwelling babies will resub regardless of what ccp does. No one else will take these meat breasted failures. Here is how to properly define "where the sun don't shine" for ccp.
Step 1. Give all your stuff to me Step 2. Bios mass your account Step 3. ..... Step 4. Profit Step 5. Let subscription run out. Step 6. Quickly logon to eveonline forum to tell everyone how bad ccp is and how "bad a$$" you are for sticking to the man.
Thanks again for the stuff.
Your BFF, ES.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:06:00 -
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+1
I really don't care that they insult me. But many parts of eve need work and if they refuse to assign any devs to do that then I'm not interested. Its a shame because eve really could be great.
Originally by: lilol' me Seriously after everything that CCP has said and leaked, why should i give a feck if CCP fails. Its shown that CCP no longer care about eve and its players and hasnt for some time. terrible customer service, terrible expansions, and then using eve as a cash cow for WoD and Dust proving these are the games they are looking to the future for. Will I pay extra sub fee for CCP to waste on more other games and not eve NO WAY! its costs enough more than enough Will I buy crappy vanity items to fund other games NO WAY! At least we know why Incarna was really invented, to allow for MT. At least we know now why CCP havent and wont do anything about RMT. Because they cant lose the subscriptions! To be honest I hope CCP do fail, because as a company, and their values as terrible and if you think about it they obviously dont get a feck about us the eve players.... Played this game for 8 years and yeah theres alway been issues with CCP, but now i feel i have been severely bent over and f*cked up the ass...
heres a big middle finger to you CCP..
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JMERCENARY
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth When CCP bought White Wolf everything went downhill from there. Caving in to investors. Putting the quality staff from EVE into WoD production. The old folks were right, everything was better before.. RL and in EVE.
I blame vampires. And Canada.
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: lilol' me Seriously after everything that CCP has said and leaked, why should i give a feck if CCP fails.
You obviously care enough to post on their forums and make noise about you being upset. I would say this means that you care a lot about whether EVE (and thus, by extension, CCP) fails or not. Why get angry and upset if you don't care?
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Its shown that CCP no longer care about eve and its players and hasnt for some time. terrible customer service, terrible expansions, and then using eve as a cash cow for WoD and Dust proving these are the games they are looking to the future for. Will I pay extra sub fee for CCP to waste on more other games and not eve NO WAY! its costs enough more than enough Will I buy crappy vanity items to fund other games NO WAY! At least we know why Incarna was really invented, to allow for MT.
The development of Incarna was started far before microtransactions became popular. I *HIGHLY* doubt that Incarna was invented to allow for MT. If ANYTHING, Incarna was invented to capture some of the WoW crowd, as one of the main barriers for a WoW player in EVE was that they do not have a personal avatar which they can control.
And your refusal to pay extra subscription fees is EXACTLY why CCP is introducing microtransactions! Inflation is continually increasing the costs of operating the servers, yet CCP's subscription fees have not increased in tandem. In order to maintain profits, SOMETHING has to give. CCP is trying to avoid raising subscription fees by allowing people who are into microtransactions to give CCP additional money. This way CCP can increase profits without FORCING players to give them more money (and thus alienating all of their customers at once).
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At least we know now why CCP havent and wont do anything about RMT. Because they cant lose the subscriptions!
Unfortunately, you are falling victim to a confirmation bias. You are conveniently ignoring or forgetting any and all evidence which does not conform to your belief. The fact of the matter is that CCP *DOES* do things against RMT. They DO ban accounts, and DO put people into a negative wallet for RMTing. And let's not forget the fact that RMTers usually pay with stolen credit cards, so CCP doesn't actually get any money from them! To make matters worse, RMTers play 23/7, putting more strain on the servers than normal players do. CCP dislikes RMTers intensely - probably far worse than you do.
Every couple of months, many solar systems full of bots are mysteriously emptied, with all of the inhabitants mysteriously never logging in again. People come to the forums and for a day, they post things like: "What the hell happened to all of the bots in system X?" And other people reply with "System Y is empty too". Yet these posts soon disappear, and never last long because people don't get excited about a system not being full of bots.
Occasionally, we get someone on the forums who try to claim that they are a false positive for RMT bans, or transaction reversals.
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To be honest I hope CCP do fail, because as a company, and their values as terrible and if you think about it they obviously dont get a feck about us the eve players.... Played this game for 8 years and yeah theres alway been issues with CCP, but now i feel i have been severely bent over and f*cked up the ass...
heres a big middle finger to you CCP..
And that would make you a malicious psychopath if you truly do not care. The reality? You DO care about CCP. You feel betrayed by CCP, so now you feel anger at this betrayal. Furthermore, you feel the need to voice this betrayal on the forums. Secretly, you want CCP to redeem itself - admit it. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:52:00 -
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I been here since beta days, you peasants havent changed, whine complain, threaten, and still play or are not missed.
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Lyrrashae
Minmatar Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth And Canada.
We'd have been much more circumspect about it before implementation, and much more competent, during.
BECAUSE OF PEN1S, THAT'S WHY!!
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Discrodia
Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:54:00 -
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+1
But then again, since I've cancelled my sub I haven't really cared. So... yea.
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Savage Angel
Gallente Gambler's Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Savage Angel on 30/06/2011 16:10:59 Why would I ever buy cell phone service! Those *%^& just turn around and use it to build more cell towers in New Mexico! Screw those Mexicans!
Why would I buy cable TV? All that money doesn't go to giving me more American Idol, it goes to stupid stuff like science shows!
Who would ever buy a movie ticket? Don't they know they just want our money?
And my power company. Damn them, they take all my money and spend it on lobbying Congress and developing wind power that I don't even use! And they spend more of it on sponsoring football arenas and NASCAR!
I'm done with companies. I will never buy anything from anyone again.
Edit: And what about Pay-per-view!?! They take my subscription, then try to get more money out of me for stuff I will never buy! Ever! And, to top it off it is too damn expensive!
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Cmdr Zander
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:34:00 -
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+1 they are suiciding and destroying eve in the process
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Lidia Prince
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lidia Prince on 30/06/2011 16:36:06 Every +1 (don't care dude) in this thread should send me 100kk ISK. I'm not asking, do it.
You hate changes? CCP have gone too far?
Then support PvP players! Send all ISK to Lidia Prince and biomass your character now! |
Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Mithrasith on 30/06/2011 16:55:53 Edited by: Mithrasith on 30/06/2011 16:54:00
Originally by: Savage Angel Edited by: Savage Angel on 30/06/2011 16:10:59 Why would I ever buy cell phone service! Those *%^& just turn around and use it to build more cell towers in New Mexico! Screw those Mexicans!
That's fail assessment. You're not making a 1:1 analogy. That would be like being angry because CCP used the funds of EVE to expand EVE. No one is saying that.
Originally by: Savage Angel
Why would I buy cable TV? All that money doesn't go to giving me more American Idol, it goes to stupid stuff like science shows!
This is also a fail assessment. This would be like saying CCP used the funds from EVE to add additional content to EVE. No one is angry about that. A better analogy might be giving money to your cable company, but then they put your favorite channels which you normally receive with your subscription fee behind a pay per view option.
Originally by: Savage Angel
Who would ever buy a movie ticket? Don't they know they just want our money?
This is also fail. When I buy a movie ticket my expectation is that I get a 1 time use out of that ticket for a specific movie. I have no expectations beyon dthat because taht is what Ive agreed to pay for. Nothing less, nothing more
Originally by: Savage Angel
And my power company. Damn them, they take all my money and spend it on lobbying Congress and developing wind power that I don't even use! And they spend more of it on sponsoring football arenas and NASCAR!
This is a tiny bit closer, for the simply reason that money that I pay them is missappropriated into other areas. There is one big difference however - power is a must have. EVE is not. There is another big difference, the power companies have a monopoly, EVE does not. If I could change power companies, I would. But unfortunately I cant, so I actively lobby my own politicians to keep things in check as much as I can.
Originally by: Savage Angel
I'm done with companies. I will never buy anything from anyone again.
Well that's a little odd, Im not sure how you are going to survive. I however am going to use my money in the most appropriate way I can and make the right decisions about companies I support. With my disposable income (because that is what EVE is) I only support companies that treat me fairly as a customer, communicate well, dont lie and deliver a quality product that I enjoy. When that stops happening, I take my money elsewhere.
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Tarinara
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin The development of Incarna was started far before microtransactions became popular. I *HIGHLY* doubt that Incarna was invented to allow for MT. If ANYTHING, Incarna was invented to capture some of the WoW crowd, as one of the main barriers for a WoW player in EVE was that they do not have a personal avatar which they can control.
I have both WoW and Eve accounts which are always subbed/unsubbed depending on my BS tolerance, and having a closet with poor lighting and a suddenly EMO looking character with bad movement controls was never my #1 complaint about Eve.
Most comments from WoW players I've seen now discuss $70 monocles though. And lots of laughing... even Sparkle Noob Pony purchasers, the laughing stock of WoW, laugh at us.
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Jail Baiter
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:05:00 -
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Being an EVE fan is going to get alot more expensive too.
Your gonna have to buy a PS3 & Dust, then pay MT's.
All that while running your multiple EVE accounts and buying gold ammo to compete.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:08:00 -
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I'd hate to see CCP and EVE go under.
So much potential - So much waste. --------
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:09:00 -
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A lot of butt hurt in here because renting pixels doesn't allow you to run the company.
You all just now coming to this revelation?
Brainy bunch.
Mr Epeen
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen A lot of butt hurt in here because renting pixels doesn't allow you to run the company.
You all just now coming to this revelation?
Brainy bunch.
Mr Epeen
Why haven't you bought a monocle yet? --------
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Jail Baiter
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen A lot of butt hurt in here because renting pixels doesn't allow you to run the company.
You all just now coming to this revelation?
Brainy bunch.
Mr Epeen
What I don't work for CCP?
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