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Luckytania
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Scofield Not only do they have to pay server bandwidth/maintenance costs, developer costs, technical support costs, ingame support costs out of a measly subscription they also have to develop feature packed expansions to sate the gluttonous hordes.
Not only that but your monthly subscription also apparently buys you the right to dictate the future direction of CCP, make staff changes and have access to high level discussions.
That measly subscription has been netting them greater than $5 million dollars a year profit for a while.
Your attempted point here is weak.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: lilol' me i feel physically sick even typing 'CCP'
Good lord, get a life. It's just a fricking game.
To put that into some perspective, I was amongst the monument shooters in Jita and I've posted *far* more in the last week than my entire previous two years in total.
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Luckytania
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Luckytania
That measly subscription has been netting them greater than $5 million dollars a year profit for a while.
BLOODY CAPITALISTS!!
BETTER RED THAN DEAD, eh...Lucky
<laughter> Actually, uh, no. :)
I approve of making money. Strongly approve. I just got the impression that the guy I quoted was trying to say CCP was barely scraping along and we should consider opening a soup kitchen for the devs.
Actually, IMO, what happened here is that CCP was taking advantage of, excessively taking advantage of, fees being paid to provide one service to do 'other' work to the neglect of the original commitment.
Kinda like paying a contractor to put an extension on your house and you find he has spent half of it on some other endeavor to the detriment of the quality of work on your house, to his double dipping profit, rather than doing the job which was previously agreed upon.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: killmc
Originally by: RougeOperator
Originally by: Luckytania
Originally by: Snake Scofield Not only do they have to pay server bandwidth/maintenance costs, developer costs, technical support costs, ingame support costs out of a measly subscription they also have to develop feature packed expansions to sate the gluttonous hordes.
Not only that but your monthly subscription also apparently buys you the right to dictate the future direction of CCP, make staff changes and have access to high level discussions.
That measly subscription has been netting them greater than $5 million dollars a year profit for a while.
Your attempted point here is weak.
Thats the joke, they have been profitable on a sub basis. There is no need to put MT into the game that was already generating healty profit.
that like telling oil corp your makeing more than enofe how about not raseing fuel price for ever
More like: How about committing to selling gasoline as long as I'm buying it?
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi
Originally by: killmc Edited by: killmc on 30/06/2011 16:10:00
Originally by: Samir Duran Xadi I dont care about MT, NEX, monocles etc. the lack of new content and the fact that our money goes to fund other ccp projects should be enough for anyone to quit.
all gameing corp use income from game 1 to pay to make game 2 that just how it works
and people move to game 2. I doubt ccp wants us to leave when they get money from us monthly. If you want people to keep playing your MMO you need to provide them new content constantly.
Or move to game 'other'.
I have no interest in Dust or Vampires.
I want spreadsheets in space.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: vasuul
Originally by: Vain Eldritch
Originally by: vasuul
Originally by: Andraine Soooo are we getting the station view back? will the door be no more?
Or has nothing been sad about that?
from trebor 1hr ago ::We plan to make a joint statement at the end of day 2 with specific details and points agreed to. #csm6 #tweetfleet
patience padowan
And, Padowan? Paedowan? Padawan?
eh whatever lol patience grasshoper there that fits better with my generation
<lol> yes.
And, "patience grasshopper", is sage advise for the next 48 hours.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:27:00 -
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Quote: Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead NEX store / pricing meeting winding down. Tough, but if CCP explains to you the way they explained to us, less butthurt #csm6 #tweetfleet
Hmmm, I won't be satisfied with "less butthurt".
That is not at all the service I'm paying for.
(Nothing at all against those who want 'kinky trade'. Just not my kind of game.)
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: killmc time go back to rioting i thank ccp/csm's
Nah. Been there, done that. It achieved all that it could. (Which was not insignificant.)
If tomorrow's 'joint statement' is inadequate, then my play time will be limited to what's left on the accounts and my attitude towards the game will be:
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Luckytania
Originally by: killmc time go back to rioting i thank ccp/csm's
Nah. Been there, done that. It achieved all that it could. (Which was not insignificant.)
If tomorrow's 'joint statement' is inadequate, then my play time will be limited to what's left on the accounts and my attitude towards the game will be:
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
What would be adequate for you? Nothing I assume.
Based off the vibe from the tweets so far, there is indication that nothing game changing will be able to be purchased for cash. Even if that is the statement, there will still be doubters and butthurt.
The reasonable thing for the players to do is put a plug in it and just enjoy the game until such a time that game breaking items are actually introduced.
You are free, of course, to assume, anything you like.
Your last sentence is "reasonable" for people who play a day to day, near FPS like, style of Eve. I make plans which take months to reach fruition. Without some confidence of the future, it is not "reasonable" to strive to achieve goals more substantial than "what can I shoot today".
I can hope that the tweet I quoted was merely poorly phrased. We'll see in a day or so.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alejan Gerakh ... People who are raging ...
If you scan my posts I think you'll see I can't be placed in the same category as Milla. :)
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Luckytania
Your last sentence is "reasonable" for people who play a day to day, near FPS like, style of Eve. I make plans which take months to reach fruition. Without some confidence of the future, it is not "reasonable" to strive to achieve goals more substantial than "what can I shoot today".
I have plans too and I really don't care what CCP or anyone says right now. If the game is fun I will play and if it is not fun I will not play. At the end of the day CCP can swear up and down they won't implement p2w, then turn around do it anyway. It won't be any skin off my back because there are plenty of other games out there to play :P Furthermore the game engine I have spent the last few years working on could be retooled for an eve like game, though the code is ps3 only :(
I guess it all boils down to different philosophies of play. I say enjoy the game while it lasts, one way or another it will not last forever. I don't see why people are so invested emotionally into something they have no control over at the end of the day :P Even if CCP does everything right in EVE they may still crumble financially because of WoD.
"one way or another it will not last forever" - And on that we fully agree.
"enjoy the game while it lasts" - Agree on that, also. It comes down to a personal decision as to when the time has come to bail.
Probably the only significant difference of opinion here is how much effort is worth exerting in the attempt to mold evolution of the game in a direction to my liking. (And it is only when enough of those "my"s are congruent that it really makes any difference.)
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