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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:39:00 -
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Maybe they really are trying to get the wheel back onto their beer truck.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/4949/impressivefailure.jpg
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 30/06/2011 12:06:12
Originally by: Dana Jass I don't know why everyone is assuming the CSM are total morons. I mean, would that be enough to convince YOU to sign off on P2W? I'd imagine that showing sales figures for AUR stuff is gonna be relevant to discussing keeping/expanding the vanity-only items, and NeX pricing for those, which is another issue that CCP is gonna want to discuss with the CSM, but I seriously doubt that it's gonna persuade the CSM that P2W is a good idea; their main concern is keeping the game fun, not CCP's bottom line.
I do hope so, too. I hope the CSM lets CCP show them all they have got to show and out of courtesy, but then advises against it all. If the CSM is really good can he argue that any projections coming of those first numbers are just speculation, but players clicking "unsubscribe" is a fact and something that can be worked with right now. --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:36:00 -
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They are all in a meeting ... ... what are we waiting for? --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kira Summer Then if you have a Job that you cannot book a couple of days off when something as important as this arises why bother to put yourself up for election. Geddit.
We will have to see. It might just be that this whole thing, the expansion, the protest, the meeting and the CSM is just all fail.
If it is then those who stayed at home already knew it was coming. If this does not to turn out to be just one disappointment then we need to look at the CSM again. In case of a success will the CSM have gained power as well as trust of the players. --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:22:00 -
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Thanks, Harcosi.
Can someone take over his job? And perhaps colourize the copied tweet messages, please? --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 30/06/2011 17:02:13 Seems like enough players could not hold their horses back but had to bother the CSMs enough to make them stop tweeting.
Nope, one last one for the day:
Robert Woodhead And we are done for the day. #tweetfleet #csm6
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 30/06/2011 17:31:45
Originally by: Kira Summer Whitehound it seems enough players wanted information from their elected representatives about what concerned them not tweets that totally washed over it all.
And it is wrong. It is "High-Noon in Iceland" and not election time. The CSMs need to stop responding to individual players and players need to stop begging them for answers. The CSMs are our heros. If it was not for them then who would be talking to CCP for us? Let the CSMs do their jobs. We judge them by their success at the end of it, not by the scraps of answers we manage to claw out of them. --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 30/06/2011 17:56:25
Originally by: Enuen Ravenseye
Originally by: Whitehound The CSMs are our heros.
Wrong - they had the opportunity to become heroes, and blew it.
No. We elected them, we have given them this opportunity and they have answered the call of CCP to come. If we do not let them do their job and to the end then we have to blame ourselves.
You want to quit? Then go and do not fling your poo around on your way out. --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 18:09:00 -
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@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead And we are done for the day.
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead Guys, CCP is being very open with us about strategy, numbers, etc. That is NDA territory....
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead ...BUT everything we can tell you, we will tell you. Guaranteed
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead Including if we think they're full of crap about an NDA issue.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Eza
Originally by: Whitehound @Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead And we are done for the day.
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead Guys, CCP is being very open with us about strategy, numbers, etc. That is NDA territory....
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead ...BUT everything we can tell you, we will tell you. Guaranteed
@Trebor_CSM Robert Woodhead Including if we think they're full of crap about an NDA issue.
What we want are the meeting minutes in full. Not some half page writeup. Information covered by the NDA can be x-ed out. It seems to me someone is seeking reasons not to publish the minutes.
You would not understand them. You already fail at understanding what NDA means and you are barking up the wrong tree. --
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.30 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elaine Eza NDA means Non Disclosure Agreement. When Information covered by it appears in the meeting minutes in can be x-ed out. Just like it has been in the past. Beyond that there is not much to understand about this.
It means you have to pick your words very carefully as you are moving through legal territory and this requires work, time and experience.
What most of us want is not a detailed report, but a proper game. Anything else will get cast aside by most until it happens. So why waste time? A statement by the CCP, with guidance by the CSM, will provide us, the CSM and CCP with a plan where EVE will be heading next.
We do not have to agree to it and accept this new direction, just as CCP may freely decide over their fate. We still can give it the thumbs down. Only problem is how many thumbs will remain down and how many will go up. Everyone will need to interpret the result for themselves and make their decision.
The CSM is here the messenger, who is working for both sides, not only for us. Let us not kill them before the meetings are over. --
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