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Ace Echo
Gallente The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.06.30 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Echo on 30/06/2011 22:16:16 Edited by: Ace Echo on 30/06/2011 22:07:45 The Vangel and Malice... DAMN!
[Vangel, wow] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Reactor Control Unit II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
660 DPS omni tank, drains 120 cap a second (up to 25km away), and goes 680m/s. CAP STABLE!
The malice ain't much different. only smaller.
I know, setup is pretty crappy and there ARE things that can beat it, but still - damn powerful. I can see these being heavily used in next year's alliance tournament.
The Adriesta and the Utu - those ships were pretty crappy already, but compared to these...
Is there a catch to these ships I'm not seeing or are these ships simply really powerful compared to previous AT rewards?
EDIT: For those of you who haven't seen much of the ships yet, linkage
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Shadowy Assistant
Darkrime Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.30 23:43:00 -
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Why are you so dumb?
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Alara IonStorm
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.01 00:10:00 -
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There are no words to describe the....
God can I please unsee that fit?
-- EVE Online is commited to $$Excellence$$
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Roosterton
Internet SpaceCraft Raiding Fleet
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Posted - 2011.07.01 00:22:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 01/07/2011 00:23:19 Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well. (Kiting at 3000m/s while pointing from 65km and blasting things with railguns, or perma active tanking two BS up close while melting things with blasters.)
But the Minmatar ones are pretty suck, the Freki is just a Hyena with more tank and the Mimir is total ****. Like, you wouldn't use a Mimir even if it was a HAC and not a limited issue AT prize. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Ace Echo
Gallente The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.07.01 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 00:41:28
Originally by: Alara IonStorm There are no words to describe the....
God can I please unsee that fit?
I'd challenge you to come up with a worse one that still uses t2 med mods.
I came up with that fit in under a minute simply to prove the stats - I said the fit was crappy and I would never take something like that out to a roam (if I had the choice to fit it better). The point was to show it could, not necessarily that I wanted it to.
Originally by: Roosterton Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well.
Hmm I've flown on SiSi quite a bit and have fought only 3 or 4 - I've never had a problem tanking them, tackling them, and killing them in my t2/faction fit Proteus. The ones I've fought must have been flown really bad.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.07.01 05:30:00 -
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An assault ship with four bonuses? I never thought I'd see the day. I wonder which developer was spiking the punch in order to get that design past the "four bonuses would be OP/assault ships don't need a fourth bonus" developers and QA personnel.
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Kyraen
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Posted - 2011.07.01 06:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kyraen on 01/07/2011 06:18:35 The Mimir doesn't seem that bad :) At least looking at this video
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:29:00 -
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Anyone tested to see if the Vangle armour repair bonus applied to RR as well (description is ambiguous)?
HYDRA ****ed up big time (beyond ruining the tourny ). Who the hell would want a neuting lol-Sacrilege instead of a neuting OMG-Slicer .. suckers!
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Spookyjay
Caldari Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton Edited by: Roosterton on 01/07/2011 00:23:19 Anyone who regularly plays on SiSi can tell you that the Adrestia/Utu are ridiculously OP as well. (Kiting at 3000m/s while pointing from 65km and blasting things with railguns, or perma active tanking two BS up close while melting things with blasters.)
But the Minmatar ones are pretty suck, the Freki is just a Hyena with more tank and the Mimir is total ****. Like, you wouldn't use a Mimir even if it was a HAC and not a limited issue AT prize.
Have you tried the t2 blaster null set-up? blasters at 30km tasty. Minmatar one is also good.
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Wardeneo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.01 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Wardeneo on 01/07/2011 10:09:30
Originally by: Ace Echo
[Vangel, wow] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Reactor Control Unit II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 10MN Afterburner II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
wow ur dumb as **** - 4 reps n no resist mods... .
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:52:00 -
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I think the purpose of the fitting was to demonstrate the absurd powergrid and capacitor these ships possess, not to present them as a valid fitting.
Am I mistaken?
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Songbird
Gallente T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:05:00 -
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I remember blasting one of those AT cruisers on sisi with a machariel with artillery - hehe he had a carrier repairing him too. Very satisfying :)
But yeah - these things will sell for billions, stay in hangars and they might see use in some future AT , might not
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QuIlliO
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:26:00 -
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Shadowy, Alara, Wardeneo, post your fits or STFU. |
Wensley
Minmatar Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:36:00 -
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Wow. I never knew this was a SiSi fitting forum!
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Songbird
Gallente T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.01 15:11:00 -
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sisi rocks when you just wanna relax , not care about anything and just blast stuff, too bad all your buddies continue to live in the real wor..err server.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.07.01 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 01/07/2011 15:33:11
Originally by: Veshta Yoshida Anyone tested to see if the Vangle armour repair bonus applied to RR as well (description is ambiguous)?
HYDRA ****ed up big time (beyond ruining the tourny ). Who the hell would want a neuting lol-Sacrilege instead of a neuting OMG-Slicer .. suckers!
0utbreak is hydra's professional ball lickers and b team, so I bet Hydra actually has both sets of prize ships.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:49:00 -
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What's up with the Malice?
Quote: Role Bonus: 100% bonus to Small Energy Turret Damage per level and 50% bonus to Small Energy Turret optimal range
Per level of what? ---
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Ace Echo
Gallente The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:51:40 Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:49:24
Originally by: Wardeneo Edited by: Wardeneo on 01/07/2011 10:09:30 wow ur dumb as **** - 4 reps n no resist mods...
It already has 60-70% omni resists with base + skills, ditching a rep and adding an EANM would actually worsen the tank.
Originally by: Aamrr I think the purpose of the fitting was to demonstrate the absurd powergrid and capacitor these ships possess, not to present them as a valid fitting.
Am I mistaken?
No, you're exactly right.
Abdiel: Probly typo.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.07.01 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Echo
It already has 60-70% omni resists with base + skills, ditching a rep and adding an EANM would actually worsen the tank.
Remember that stacking penalties don't apply to the base resists of the ship. Dropping from 4 reps to 3 reduces your active tank by 25%. However, an EANM gives 25% resists to everything, so this would in fact give you an identical active rep, increase your EHP, and save capacitor, powergrid, and CPU.
...just saying.
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Jude Lloyd
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Posted - 2011.07.01 19:37:00 -
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Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
Cool ships though...
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Ace Echo
Gallente The Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2011.07.02 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aamrr
Remember that stacking penalties don't apply to the base resists of the ship. Dropping from 4 reps to 3 reduces your active tank by 25%. However, an EANM gives 25% resists to everything, so this would in fact give you an identical active rep, increase your EHP, and save capacitor, powergrid, and CPU. ...just saying.
EFT says otherwise-
ah just messed around with it a bit more... heh I was fitting it with a t1 EANM on accident.
It's still a ****fit.
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Roosterton
Internet SpaceCraft Raiding Fleet
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Posted - 2011.07.02 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kyraen Edited by: Kyraen on 01/07/2011 06:18:35 The Mimir doesn't seem that bad :) At least looking at this video
He says it himself: "The ship is ****."
You *could* follow the armor resist bonus, but then it's just like a slightly faster armorCane. Or you could ignore the bonus and shield tank it, but then it's a squishier Vagabond. It's only really nice for how damn awesome it looks. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?! |
Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
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Posted - 2011.07.02 19:48:00 -
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Compared to the quality of the Adrestia, the Vangel is an extremely poor ship.
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The R00k
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Posted - 2011.07.03 08:42:00 -
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not really. in theory it should beat a adrestia every time 1v1 it has neuts to 30km. missiles and good tank. it should beat a adrestia or at least make it run off.
That is " The R00K with two 00 not oo. to you sir |
Angsty Teenager
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Posted - 2011.07.03 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: The R00k not really. in theory it should beat a adrestia every time 1v1 it has neuts to 30km. missiles and good tank. it should beat a adrestia or at least make it run off.
Except that the adestria can point 100km with an overloaded and loki boosted faction point. It can also point greater than 30km without any boosting or overloading. Oh yea, and the adestria can go way faster and can do 700ish dps at 40-50km.
Tell me again, how does the vangel beat it?
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Emperor Ryan
Amarr The Illuminatii Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.07.04 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Angsty Teenager
Oh yea, and the adestria can go way faster and can do 700ish dps at 40-50km.
Tell me again, how does the vangel beat it?
I was all for trolling the OP until you had to post this Idiocy but you realize how unpractical and Stupid a Ranged Kite fit 250mm Rail Adestria is right? You are aware you need to actually track and hit the target to achieve such numbers, and also Your looking at 20-30km Not 40-50k. Come back and post again when you stop posting like a Angsty Teenager.
On a side note, I really want to see that dubious fitting you plan to fit on to the Adestria... - Emperor
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Jackuu Bauwaah
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Posted - 2011.07.04 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ace Echo Edited by: Ace Echo on 01/07/2011 17:53:25 The Adriesta and the Utu - those ships were pretty crappy already, but compared to these...
Son you ******ed? The adrestia is bloody awsome
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.04 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 04/07/2011 11:24:25 Here's a couple fits.
[Adrestia, Pewsie] 'Bailey' 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I Brokara's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 'Radical' Damage Control I Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Medium Hybrid Ambit Extension II Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II
Valkyrie II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5
[Vangel, Pewsie] Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Dark Blood Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Disruptor Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x10
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 04/07/2011 11:24:25 Here's a couple fits.
[Adrestia, Pewsie] 'Bailey' 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates I Brokara's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 'Radical' Damage Control I Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Optimal Range
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M
Medium Hybrid Ambit Extension II Medium Auxiliary Thrusters II
Valkyrie II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5
[Vangel, Pewsie] Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Draclira's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Dark Blood Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800 Domination Warp Disruptor Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I
Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dread Guristas Heavy Assault Missile Launcher, Dread Guristas Hellfire Assault Missile Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x10
Too bad the HAMs have terrible range compared to what could have been, but Vangel is interesting. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Herp Mcgeeee
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Posted - 2011.07.04 14:42:00 -
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[Vangel, Bangel]
Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Javelin Assault Missile
10MN Afterburner I Cap Recharger II Warp Disruptor II Cap Recharger II
Damage Control II Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Hobgoblin II x5
1.7k DPS Tank 324 DPS 28km range with javs
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