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Koh Lin Baudoin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 06:53:00 -
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Speculation on when these will be released anyone?
There will be rage regardless but how many tip the phrase "unforseen delays" will be used and think CCP will try to push this out until after the weekend?
Seems like a there is an awful amount of needless PR spin going on here. In contrast consider CCP Zulu's devblog on multi-client blog that rang some horrible alarm bells with Incarna.
That devblog wasn't even spell checked.
That rumor about SOE was clarified in about 5 minutes, I'm not holding out a whole lot of hope that these statements will actually say anything at all and we'll need to argue about what's said between the lines.
Which would be a shame.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:07:00 -
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TheMittani The Mittani ok gays christ there's a lot of you but i'm really going to sleep now just chill until the statements and video blog release peace out~ 47 minutes ago
At this rate... never?
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:08:00 -
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I would guess that if they are not out by tomorrow then probably early next week given its the 4th of July weekend in the states.
I would also speculate the amount of time being taken is for one of a couple of reasons.
1. They are trying to answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 2. They are spinning the answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 3. They are partying 4. They are trying to prevent another botched devblog
Who knows whats really going on, only CCP and CSM knows. I will just wait patiently while I fish and BBQ this weekend .
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Severasse I would guess that if they are not out by tomorrow then probably early next week given its the 4th of July weekend in the states.
I would also speculate the amount of time being taken is for one of a couple of reasons.
1. They are trying to answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 2. They are spinning the answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 3. They are partying 4. They are trying to prevent another botched devblog
Who knows whats really going on, only CCP and CSM knows. I will just wait patiently while I fish and BBQ this weekend .
Iceland does not celebrate the 4th of July, therefore I would consider it out before then.
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: Jeff Severasse I would guess that if they are not out by tomorrow then probably early next week given its the 4th of July weekend in the states.
I would also speculate the amount of time being taken is for one of a couple of reasons.
1. They are trying to answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 2. They are spinning the answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 3. They are partying 4. They are trying to prevent another botched devblog
Who knows whats really going on, only CCP and CSM knows. I will just wait patiently while I fish and BBQ this weekend .
Iceland does not celebrate the 4th of July, therefore I would consider it out before then.
Edited. Sorry about that I meant to put that in there I just forgot.
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Garcia Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:11:00 -
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TheMittani The Mittani @ now back to telling people to kill themselves and generally being a sadistic *******, thank god.
TheMittani The Mittani @ I am confident about non-vanity MT not happening. CCP has to go to apology school but that's sorted now
CSM Mittani seems to be doing his own bit of raging, but he did say he was confident about non-vanity items not appearing.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:11:00 -
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Did mittens have anything to say to those of us who aren't gay?
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:12:00 -
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Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
I hope I wasnt implying that and if so my bad. All I was saying was that since it is the 4th in the US that they may use it as an excuse to delay the release. I could be totaly wrong and I expect that I am. Was just saying I wouldnt be suprised if that excuse was used.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
I hope I wasnt implying that and if so my bad. All I was saying was that since it is the 4th in the US that they may use it as an excuse to delay the release. I could be totaly wrong and I expect that I am. Was just saying I wouldnt be suprised if that excuse was used.
It's more fun when everyone gets angry :(.
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
I hope I wasnt implying that and if so my bad. All I was saying was that since it is the 4th in the US that they may use it as an excuse to delay the release. I could be totaly wrong and I expect that I am. Was just saying I wouldnt be suprised if that excuse was used.
It's more fun when everyone gets angry :(.
LOL ok let me give it my best shot...*ahem*...HOW DARE YOU THINK YOU ARE MY EQUAL YOU COMMIE...gah I cant do it. I just refuse to get all bent out of shape on a game forum lol. Especially if I make mistakes.
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Garcia Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:19:00 -
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Edited by: Garcia Fox on 02/07/2011 07:19:51 Edited by: Garcia Fox on 02/07/2011 07:19:27 I'm more interested in knowing who voted in a guy (mittani) who seems to be spending more time raging on his tweets and telling people to go **** themselves and go kill themselves?
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Garcia Fox Edited by: Garcia Fox on 02/07/2011 07:19:51 Edited by: Garcia Fox on 02/07/2011 07:19:27 I'm more interested in knowing who voted in a guy (mittani) who seems to be spending more time raging on his tweets and telling people to go **** themselves and go kill themselves?
Well maybe its just the stress + fact hes away from his wife? :P
Maybe its the fact he has to go BACK to his wife now.
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:23:00 -
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Well, in EVE's 9 year life CCP has never cared wether or not it's a holiday in Iceland. Why would they care if there is a holiday in another country? Anyways, they have already explained what we are waiting for. The statement and the video discussion is ready and done, they are translating it to German and Russian, the supported laungages, that takes a while.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 02/07/2011 07:28:37
Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
I hope I wasnt implying that and if so my bad. All I was saying was that since it is the 4th in the US that they may use it as an excuse to delay the release. I could be totaly wrong and I expect that I am. Was just saying I wouldnt be suprised if that excuse was used.
It's more fun when everyone gets angry :(.
LOL ok let me give it my best shot...*ahem*...HOW DARE YOU THINK YOU ARE MY EQUAL YOU COMMIE...gah I cant do it. I just refuse to get all bent out of shape on a game forum lol. Especially if I make mistakes.
here let me help you:
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Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:31:00 -
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I already told you lot, they are having problems translating the text into Latin and Klingon. Give them a chance lol
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Koh Lin Baudoin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Draahk Chimera Anyways, they have already explained what we are waiting for. The statement and the video discussion is ready and done, they are translating it to German and Russian, the supported laungages, that takes a while.
I don't argue that it would take a while, but CCP have asked for patience as this needs to go through "publication processes".
However, do other CCP statements got through this?
Did CCP Zulu's little post Incarna rant wait to be polished and translated?
I just contest that the delay is not caused by usual process but may be more around timing for CCP.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Koh Lin Baudoin
Originally by: Draahk Chimera Anyways, they have already explained what we are waiting for. The statement and the video discussion is ready and done, they are translating it to German and Russian, the supported laungages, that takes a while.
I don't argue that it would take a while, but CCP have asked for patience as this needs to go through "publication processes".
However, do other CCP statements got through this?
Did CCP Zulu's little post Incarna rant wait to be polished and translated?
I just contest that the delay is not caused by usual process but may be more around timing for CCP.
They might have added another QA process after Zulu's little blog.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:35:00 -
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Yeah, its gotten ugly,but i think this is Business as Usual from here on out.
I think they are just gonna sit back and see what happens with subs.
If enough people actually let their subs expire, or even just stop logging in, they will say something.
But at this point, i think they are just working on perception. Trying to see if things will go back to normal if they just wait it out.
I dunno.
Its hard to tell what the playerbase is going to do. There was a lot of discontent. But then, a lot ofpeople dont really care. If they can log in and play, they will. And keep playin till P2W is in their face.....
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:35:00 -
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I still believe no matter how careful they are there will be a clarification blog after the initial one.
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Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:36:00 -
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We need to remain competitive...blah blah blah....difficult market conditions ... blah blah ... only alternative to heavy subscription increases .... blah blah blah ... minimal concessions to players .....blah blah ... repeat of last week not tolerated ...blah blah
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Koh Lin Baudoin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Harcosi They might have added another QA process after Zulu's little blog.
This is entirely true. I am only basing my observations of what CCP have done to date. Personally I think they are delaying until the weekend has passed. Originally by: Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly We need to remain competitive...blah blah blah....difficult market conditions ... blah blah ... only alternative to heavy subscription increases .... blah blah blah ... minimal concessions to players .....blah blah ... repeat of last week not tolerated ...blah blah
Suspect you are very close - doubt there will be any wins at all for players.
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Slaghead
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Posted - 2011.07.02 07:49:00 -
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If they let the entire weekend pass then I'm not even going to care anymore. This delay is BS. This has been going on for weeks, plenty of time for them to have something prepared before the CSM's even arrived and then they'd just have to do some tweaks. |
Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:14:00 -
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How long does it actually take to translate a couple of documents into German and Russian anyway?
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly How long does it actually take to translate a couple of documents into German and Russian anyway?
How long do you need it to?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:24:00 -
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Do you think maybe it's because they know every single word will be pulled out individually, quoted out of context and spun into whatever that particular thread starters agenda is?
They need to be very precise in what they say. It was prolly already written, but now being combed over for all the possible ways it can be misconstrued. Then rewritten and given to someone else to intentionally misinterpret. Then rewritten and... well, you get the idea.
And I for one can't blame them. This situation is so volatile on all sides that they need to be very careful how they word this thing.
Mr Epeen
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Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:24:00 -
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http://translate.google.com/
We dont mind if its not 100% accurate, I just need to know if I am going to be resubbing.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen spun
You think they're bringing ship spinning back?
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Koh Lin Baudoin Speculation on when these will be released anyone?
Monday 1900-ish EVE-time. -
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Azztoroid
Shipwreck cove
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:27:00 -
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They need to atleast come out with a deadline for "blogs", speculations have begun, and the rage are slowly creeping in.....You can only hold back for so long....sorry, but that is how it is.....
Small fires of speculations are beginning, and more and more a being drawn towards them....
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: Mr Epeen spun
You think they're bringing ship spinning back?
No, it was tweeted yesterday that the old hangar is gone forever. The best you can hope for in that regard is that the static hangar door will be a permanent solution rather then a temporary one.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Harcosi on 02/07/2011 08:35:10
Originally by: Azztoroid Edited by: Azztoroid on 02/07/2011 08:28:23 They need to atleast come out with a deadline for "blogs", speculations have begun, and the rage are slowly creeping in.....You can only hold back for so long....sorry, but that is how it is.....
Small fires of speculations are beginning, and more and more are being drawn towards them....
Time to grab our remaining accounts and return to Jita?
Originally by: Draahk Chimera
Originally by: Harcosi
Originally by: Mr Epeen spun
You think they're bringing ship spinning back?
No, it was tweeted yesterday that the old hangar is gone forever. The best you can hope for in that regard is that the static hangar door will be a permanent solution rather then a temporary one.
Read the post I took that word from.
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Murtal Liven
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
Everything revolves around the United States. /fixed
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Murtal Liven
Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
Everything revolves around the United States. /fixed
So for this solar system, that would put the United States on the Sun. Hope you have a very high Sun block cream
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Murtal Liven
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Fox
Originally by: Murtal Liven
Originally by: Harcosi Oh my bad, I forgot. Iceland revolves around the United States.
Everything revolves around the United States. /fixed
So for this solar system, that would put the United States on the Sun. Hope you have a very high Sun block cream
EVERYTHING!
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Bob Nibblepibbley
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Posted - 2011.07.02 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Koh Lin Baudoin Speculation on when these will be released anyone?
Monday 1900-ish EVE-time.
Which decade?
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Gordon Hellbender
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:18:00 -
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It had better be damn good. And it won't be unless it includes Zulu's resignation.
Unprofessional that guy.
Either way, they got 4 days left until my sub runs out.
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Anakin Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:41:00 -
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For this statement to have taken this much time suggests one of two things:
1) CCP management have reached a level of incompetence that almost redifines the whole concept of incompetence. They should know how much this matters to a significant element of their customer base and should have managed to get at least an initial statement, if not the full thing out by now. I realise that might have meant PR, legal and translators working late or even overnight but frankly that is not unusual in the business world. So it might mean offering a bit of overtime or time off in lieu - so what, this is important get it done. Done it often enough myself when the crap has hit the corporate fan.
2) Key folk at CCP don't actually think it's important. "Work late ? Pay some overtime ? No way this can wait until Monday."
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:04:00 -
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They announced a press conference tomorrow for gaming news sites, which I would assume takes place soon-after the official statement is released tomorrow.
We shall see how it all goes.
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Luckytania
Gallente Bullets of Justice
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen Do you think maybe it's because they know every single word will be pulled out individually, quoted out of context and spun into whatever that particular thread starters agenda is?
They need to be very precise in what they say. It was prolly already written, but now being combed over for all the possible ways it can be misconstrued. Then rewritten and given to someone else to intentionally misinterpret. Then rewritten and... well, you get the idea.
And I for one can't blame them. This situation is so volatile on all sides that they need to be very careful how they word this thing.
Mr Epeen
Yes. I agree on every point.
Come on, show some patience, folks. Not everything in the world works on a "gimme now" schedule.
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CCFAIL
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: Jeff Severasse I would guess that if they are not out by tomorrow then probably early next week given its the 4th of July weekend in the states.
I would also speculate the amount of time being taken is for one of a couple of reasons.
1. They are trying to answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 2. They are spinning the answer in precise detail what went on in the meetings. 3. They are partying 4. They are trying to prevent another botched devblog
Who knows whats really going on, only CCP and CSM knows. I will just wait patiently while I fish and BBQ this weekend .
Iceland does not celebrate the 4th of July, therefore I would consider it out before then.
if its not out before, we should give them a reason to celebrate. - the 1st intentially caused node crash of jita?
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:19:00 -
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Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
You clearly don't know CCP's track record with press announcements
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Samir Duran Xadi
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Uglavitch Nefrex I already told you lot, they are having problems translating the text into Latin and Klingon. Give them a chance lol
don't forget gaelic and ancient greek too.
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CCFAIL
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
that press conference is only to state "we don't listen to what our players say anyway, and are going to kill eve, to prove it."
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: JC Anderson on 02/07/2011 10:27:32
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
You clearly don't know CCP's track record with press announcements
Possibly... I mean Ive been playing for 6/7 years or so but it escapes me if there were other situations anywhere close to this in terms of volatility.
Hrm... Well there was the blueprint thing, and disabling of ghost training. Can't remember if those ended up with CCP scheduling a press conference to address them though.
In the end, I'm very curious to see what CCP has to say. I'm hoping its not, "We talked to the CSM, and decided that Eve is awesome and the players have nothing to worry about!"
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
I thought the press conference was on Tuesday? ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------ |
JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
I thought the press conference was on Tuesday?
Ugh, I hope not because then I doubt we would see the dev blog covering the CSM visit until then.
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Gloria Stitz
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: JC Anderson
Originally by: Gloria Stitz
Originally by: JC Anderson Like I said, they called a press conference for tomorrow and sent out notification to the various gaming news sites.
I highly doubt they would have scheduled it if the statement to the players wasn't going to be released beforehand.
I thought the press conference was on Tuesday?
Ugh, I hope not because then I doubt we would see the dev blog covering the CSM visit until then.
They spoke about it on everadio, but it was about 4am, so I might have misunderstood. ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------ |
Koh Lin Baudoin
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Posted - 2011.07.02 11:09:00 -
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Well that's 11am Saturday.
We know the CCP and CSM statements, video message (goodness knows what value that adds) are done and the transcript and translations are in progress.
Given the majority of that was done before the CSM got back on the plane and that it is now 11am Saturday I suspect CCP are going to delay this to at least Monday and if possible leading into the 4th of July holiday in the US.
The lack of updates today tells me the PR playbook is being well thumbed in the last few days.
The danger for CCP is the longer they leave this more credibility they lose calling for patience because of "publishing processes" when it was very clear a tad of midnight oil could have knocked this off.
The more they try to spin it the worse it's going to look so they might as well be honest at this point.
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Speaker4 theDead
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.02 20:18:00 -
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Hmmm, last year they had no plans for MT of any kind. This year they have no plans for non-vanity MT. Next year.......Stay tuned....or not.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:21:00 -
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It's obvious the delays are intended.
Everyone was much more worked up earlier, and CCP wishes everyone to be cooled down before they make their announcement, out of the hope to minimize ragequitting. The tactic is an obvious and expected manipulation of the circumstances.
I'll be interested to see how many sheep manage to be herded out of canceling their accounts if CCP announces non-vanity MT's will eventually happen. I'll have one more good laugh at it before I go.
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