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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 17:20:00 -
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I am glad that things were, so far as we can see, resolved at the extraordinary meeting. But there is still one question that makes some of us (and yes, not only me. Us. I've seen more than a fair share of people with the same question). Ship Spinning.
What we are basically asking for, is Dock > Hangar > Button to disembark (CQ). But, from my understanding of what was agreed upon, it is going to be Dock > Captain's Quarters > Option to go Ship Spinning?!
Is that it?
I hope not.. hope it was just a misunderstanding.. We don't want hangar view back because "ship spinning" was "kewl".
We want hangar view back because it was FAST. We could just dock; double-click our ship's for cargohold; drag ship from the Ship's Hangar to the main-screen to activate it; it made total sense; it didn't break immersion.
THEN, after we docked up and went to the hangar, if we wanted to enter Captain's Quarters we could just hit a "disembark" button.
"But then our players wouldn't have any real reason to enter the Captain's Quarters!!!". Well, we have no reason to BE at the Captain's Quarters at the moment.. because the Captain's Quarters doesnt do anything!
So i hope that CCP does NOT plans on bringing hangar view back, on the condition that one has to go through the Captain's Quarters FIRST, because not only would that be pointless, it would be an even further failure of communication/understanding on part of CCP. What we obvioulsy want is the other way around. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow I am in transit back home (now in Boston Airport) but will be happy to answer questions as time permits. I hope the devblog clears up a lot of things for everyone.
It's very clear you completely missed the point, as far as CQ is concerned.
This.
I'll just leave this here, though. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 02/07/2011 18:11:39
Originally by: CCP Navigator Return of ship spinning
This new variation will be similar and, while you can spin your ship, it will not be exactly how it was before.
/me facepalm.
EVE Commnunity, this is what you get by using "silly terms" about your worries and desires. Now CCP thinks that the "Ship SpinningÖ" issue is about spinning ships...
Here here. Don't even bother with Ship SpinningÖ until you get what we are talking about. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ra Vhim
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
The most ridiculous bit about this whole hangar argument is that *I* was the one getting all mad at :ccp: when I thought they didn't understand the whole problem with mandatory InCarna docking. I've been convinced, so please rephrase your issue in clearly defined terms so I can answer them appropriately and kill this.
Please do tell how you were convinced. You obviously have heard some sort of argument that might help a lot of people understand.
I myself is mostly annoyed that I am forced to take part of Incarna. It would be like being forced to take part of FW. I did for example not care about CCP making FW because I know some like it, but if they decided to force it upon me then I would get pretty annoyed.
I simply have no interest in Incarna, at least not now, and as far as I can tell Incarna is a WoD test (which is okay) and a MT store. I leave Eve and the player controlled market and enter Incarna and the MT world. I don't want to do that. If Incarna give me something I am interested in (perhaps poker) then I might want to leave Eve and step out into Incarna, but I am of the opinion that it should be my choice.
This is basically what we are talking about. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 02/07/2011 21:53:47
Originally by: Ra Vhim
Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Yes, CCP still wants to dock straight to Incarna.
Did they explain why we must be forced into Incarna? Or did they explain why pilots must leave their pod every time they dock? I am hoping for an other answer then that this is CCP's way to promote NeX (and I would very much appreciate hearing about it).
Because it makes for a more seamless (hate the marketing word, but it's true) interaction between "flying in space" and "doing stuff based on your character".
I've always said that it would be better to have people dock in their hangar and make them want to join InCarna for its own values, but it makes sense to me that, if performance are equal, not having to go through an additional step makes the 2 more integrated. So if performance is equal, then it's acceptable to me otherwise it's just *****ing "I don't want InCarna". Well, InCarna's here whether we wanted it or not, so if it's there and docking/interacting doesn't take more resources, then it makes sense not to have the intermediary "hangar" step.
The time to complaining "I don't want InCarna" has come and passed, what now matters is the impact for us who care less about the integration between the two.
Edit: and the reason the statements do not cover every edge-case is because we have to summarize 2 days of hectic discussion about all those cases into a few paragraphs, we feel the statement we made covers the points made by the players and addresses them. And yes, your dissection of every word and wriggle room and grey area and tiny detail that wasn't mentionned in the statement has been discussed and addressed.
Ok.
During the CSM meeting, have you guys at any point inquired CCP about how immersion breaking the current incarnation of incarna (no pun intended) is?! And sorry if the following question sounds offensive.. but.. Does the CSM even cares about immersion?
Thank You. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Renan Ruivo on 02/07/2011 22:54:12 Oops, posted at the same time as you.. One sec.. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 23:59:00 -
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I just really hope CCP fixes the immersion issue with Captain's Quarters. Just remembering that the POD is over there by the catwalk brings the kind of sickness to my stomach that i feel when i remember about a documentary on Discovery Channel that showed a guy who, after being lost in the jungle for 23 days, had to stab his dog (which up until that point had been following him without question) on the back of the head with a machete so that he could eat him....
No.. to be honest.. nothing makes me sick as recalling that documentary.. dammit, i shouldn't have tried to write about it.. now i am depressed.. dammit **** it... ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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