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Graphiso	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:54:00 - [1] As most of you know, CCP is not known for their customer care. Today was another day they could prove otherwise. As simple as it may seem, a reply to our problems (Not being able to login) would have been enough. But again they left their customers in the dark. Therefor, i created this petition to get our voices heard (CNN?)I know some people will like it, others will not. But CCP is treating us like customers have no rights..CCP, we are not your friends, family etc we pay you so we do have certain rights. It is nice that the CSM is talking to CCP but it shouldn't have been needed. CCP knows what is good and what is wrong, but they also know most of us will not undertake anything except complain on forums. Thus a petition. No flaming please (doubt that is possible) THE PETITION: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ccpwtf/ "This petition is to show CCP that a lot of their customers are not satisfied by their services/game. On the forums, in meetings and pretty much any/everywhere there is too much talking going on and not enough action. CCP might post an apoligy about their behavior but that just doesn't cut it anymore. With all the updates and fixes going on these days people are getting tired of CCP and their excuses. A simple fix could result in a few hours no game time. The problem these days is that we do not and cannot trust CCP anymore. They are making mistakes when it comes to: -Fixes/updates -Communication -Future plans It is nice that the CSM talks with CCP but it is still talk, and after the talks things still continue as usual. It's time to step up, make your voice heard in this petition so CCP can see how many people are NOT satisfied." PS: At least I am trying something
Valari Nala Zena Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:55:00 - [2] God, like it makes a difference.
Scozia2 Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:56:00 - [3] boohoo you'd think it was the end of the world cause you couldn't play an online game.
Sangroku	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:57:00 - [4] YOU IDIOT! Do you believe the world revolves around your capacity or not to play the game? NOONE was out signing petitions when the boot.ini issue arrised and computers were ruined! Go out, have a drink, get some sun. Don't just stand in front of the computer wating for the server to be up and fuming!
Xenu State Protectorate	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:57:00 - [5] And the worst part is you have no choice but to subscribe. Just imagine if you had the power to quit if you didn't like it!
Erik CoolBreeze Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:57:00 - [6] If you don't like it, gtfo.
Uglavitch Nefrex Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:57:00 - [7] CCP is a private company they don't give a **** what we think. Pointless even creating a petition.
BennyBoy Starhopper	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:58:00 - [8] I hope yours is the only signature
SiIver Twin	Posted - 2011.07.05 13:59:00 - [9] Edited by: SiIver Twin on 05/07/2011 14:00:44 The problem you will find is that the voice of those who are **ed is usually louder than the voice of those you don't care much about it. so yes when you think of the hysteria on the forums it's because they are upset... how many happy threads are there when CCP provide you a smooth server 23hours of every day? (with the exception of course with today's mishap) which BTW they did keep us informed while they looked for a solution. To be honest I'd like to see you do a lot better Graphiso, Go on... make you're own game like eve and then people can and moan on your forums like whiny little ***es!
Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.07.05 14:00:00 - [10] Edited by: Ciar Meara on 05/07/2011 14:01:16 While I assume CCP does like our money and attention so a petition with enough signatures or an epic threadnaught would impact things. But Dude Seriously, there is a sticky right there saying they have issues with the server. Lets all just relax and have a coke. I do believe that CCP has had a bad week or two, lets hope next news is good news! - Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara ß japanska Tfskuverslun.
Croier	Posted - 2011.07.05 14:02:00 - [11] Your neckbeard is itchy today.. am I right??
SiIver Twin	Posted - 2011.07.05 14:05:00 - [12] On another note... read the EULA and TOS. I'm pretty sure they state they will do their best to insure a connection, but can not guarantee 24/7 access. They were applying a hotfix patch to try and deal with some of the issues from incarna. and it backfired, at least they are trying. soo... STFU and go watch some more PRON!
BennyBoy Starhopper	Posted - 2011.07.05 14:05:00 - [13] Edited by: BennyBoy Starhopper on 05/07/2011 14:05:29 I take it all back - God is one of the 5 people (inluding yourself) who has signed your petition so apparently it must be right
Wonder Pets Caldari The Executioners	Posted - 2011.07.05 14:55:00 - [14] Wow! What a cool site... I have never heard of www.ipetitions.com until this post. Thanks Graphiso! I'm going to file a petition against McDonalds, last time I was there I didn't get enough pickles on my cheeseburger. Seriously Graphiso, check your hardware and upgrade if needed. CCP is moving forward with Technology and so should everyone else that plays EVE.
Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.07.05 15:03:00 - [15] Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 05/07/2011 15:05:32 There's a very simple way to get CCP to listen, stop giving them money, I've been toying with the idea of getting more PLEX for this game but I honestly can't be bothered, any other company that actually gave a damn would be blazing away with the patches fixing as much as they could and taking in new ideas, I do believe that CCP are using very much the same tactics SOE used with Pre-Cu SWG. The developers behind perpetuum online sound like a much better choice because of their work and business ethic alone. I am glad they said they aren't doing micro-transactions and if they aren't continuing all the better, but this game is broken and I don't want to pay money for a broken game, as for the idiots who think it's somehow morally wrong to use the game time you have left to play the game you hate, ** off, I paid money for this game and I won't be able to get a refund for it, if you want to give me the 34.99 euro I used then I'll happily leave. However until my 42 days are up I'll happily sit here ***ing and attempting to play what bits of unbroken game I can.
Bad Messenger draketrain	Posted - 2011.07.05 15:12:00 - [16] I have no complains about happenings today, i was informed by CCP what is happening when i asked. They even responsed my further questions. I have nothing bad to say about CCP customer support on this issue, they handled it well, at least on my viewpoint.
Graphiso	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:39:00 - [17] Originally by: Valei Khurelem Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 05/07/2011 15:05:32 There's a very simple way to get CCP to listen, stop giving them money, I've been toying with the idea of getting more PLEX for this game but I honestly can't be bothered, any other company that actually gave a damn would be blazing away with the patches fixing as much as they could and taking in new ideas, I do believe that CCP are using very much the same tactics SOE used with Pre-Cu SWG. The developers behind perpetuum online sound like a much better choice because of their work and business ethic alone. I am glad they said they aren't doing micro-transactions and if they aren't continuing all the better, but this game is broken and I don't want to pay money for a broken game, as for the idiots who think it's somehow morally wrong to use the game time you have left to play the game you hate, ** off, I paid money for this game and I won't be able to get a refund for it, if you want to give me the 34.99 euro I used then I'll happily leave. However until my 42 days are up I'll happily sit here ***ing and attempting to play what bits of unbroken game I can. At least you give constructive feedback :)
Tugrath Akers	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:45:00 - [18] 4 words Class action law suite
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:48:00 - [19] This is a really poorly prepared petition and rather petty of the OP. ~~~
Graphiso	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Wonder Pets Wow! What a cool site... I have never heard of www.ipetitions.com until this post. Thanks Graphiso! I'm going to file a petition against McDonalds, last time I was there I didn't get enough pickles on my cheeseburger. Seriously Graphiso, check your hardware and upgrade if needed. CCP is moving forward with Technology and so should everyone else that plays EVE. What does hardware have to do with it? I'm talking bout customer service..
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:51:00 - [21] Edited by: Xercodo on 05/07/2011 16:51:29 I find it funny that every time we have an unexpected extension of down time that CCP usually has a sticky up with constant updates as to its progress and when they think it will be live and yet we still always get these people... -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.07.05 16:56:00 - [22] Door - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Graphiso	Posted - 2011.07.05 17:00:00 - [23] Originally by: Xercodo Edited by: Xercodo on 05/07/2011 16:51:29 I find it funny that every time we have an unexpected extension of down time that CCP usually has a sticky up with constant updates as to its progress and when they think it will be live and yet we still always get these people... Sorry but this is not true, you can look at this http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1546192 A lot of people didnt know what was going on. And the ISD couldnt tell us either ingame..
Sujanra Acoma Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion Rura-Penthe	Posted - 2011.07.05 17:29:00 - [24] Again with this "we" business. And a petition? Really? "Let our voices be heard?" Oh man, it's like I'm still in college.
Mara Villoso	Posted - 2011.07.05 18:27:00 - [25] Unsubscribe already.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Valari Nala Zena God, like it makes a difference. This. Petitions of any kind are useless..petition with your wallet. Will include breaking your addiction btw,also not a bad thing.
Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:12:00 - [27] Edited by: Valei Khurelem on 05/07/2011 19:12:20 Originally by: Tugrath Akers 4 words Class action law suite The government and the law have absolutely no idea how the games industry works and operated, they have been bought and paid for by corporations, the only way to beat them is through the free market.
Alexzia Sevic	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:31:00 - [28] I would rather they devote resources to fixing the problem/game rather then appeasing the tin foil hat wearing crowd here on the forums.
Montevius Williams Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:39:00 - [29] Didnt we just go through this?
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:44:00 - [30] For some reason, the words attempted extortion come to my mind. DO AS WE WANT OR YOU'LL [CONSEQUENCES] !! This was really okay when they **ed up, but that now is just crossing the line. You're a greedy, egoistic wad. If you're not happy with the game ... then leave, *****.
Mystical Might Amarr The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.07.05 19:47:00 - [31] "We Are Not Happy" - Don't you mean "I Am Not Happy" ?? Im preeeeeetty ok with everything. Speak for yourself pl0x.
Kidara Malfasian	Posted - 2011.07.05 20:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Graphiso Edited by: Graphiso on 05/07/2011 16:56:25 Edited by: Graphiso on 05/07/2011 16:37:24 I know some people will like it, others will not. But CCP is treating us like customers have no rights..CCP, we are not your friends, family etc we pay you so we do have certain rights. The only 'right' you have is to stop being a customer. Most people outside the MMO world think players are a bunch a losers. You, sir, only exacerbate the situation by pretending that you are a member of some oppressed minority that needs some sort of satisfaction for the price of a pizza (or three) that you pay a month. As a three year old I know likes to put it, "you silly."
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.07.05 20:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Kidara Malfasian Originally by: Graphiso Edited by: Graphiso on 05/07/2011 16:56:25 Edited by: Graphiso on 05/07/2011 16:37:24 I know some people will like it, others will not. But CCP is treating us like customers have no rights..CCP, we are not your friends, family etc we pay you so we do have certain rights. The only 'right' you have is to stop being a customer. Most people outside the MMO world think players are a bunch a losers. You, sir, only exacerbate the situation by pretending that you are a member of some oppressed minority that needs some sort of satisfaction for the price of a pizza (or three) that you pay a month. As a three year old I know likes to put it, "you silly." you're using logic and reason to interact wtih someone who has confused a video game with a legitimate issue worth getting worked up over. .
Graphiso	Posted - 2011.07.05 21:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Mystical Might "We Are Not Happy" - Don't you mean "I Am Not Happy" ?? Im preeeeeetty ok with everything. Speak for yourself pl0x. And thats why there is a petition, for the people who are not happy..I am not the only one lol why are people complaining soo much lol you guys love to troll :)I am speaking for myself indeed, and giving others the chance to show that they are not happy in an easy way. Are you people really bothered by this THAT much?If you disagree, so be it.
Dante Marcellus Minmatar Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team	Posted - 2011.07.05 21:37:00 - [35] Again with these people that feel the need to speak for the entire playerbase. STOP IT. And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
Velendil Soritenshi	Posted - 2011.07.05 21:41:00 - [36] CCP might say "HTFU"...in this case I say... STFU!
Ozmodan Minmatar Massively Mob	Posted - 2011.07.05 21:57:00 - [37] I don't get you whiners. CCP provides, by far, the best customer support in an MMO. Why do you need constructive feedback when they basically agreed to keep the item shop fluff? Cease the whining and go play the game, enough is enough! Learners permit still current
ZyferDK	Posted - 2011.07.05 22:12:00 - [38] Edited by: ZyferDK on 05/07/2011 22:12:39 Edited by: ZyferDK on 05/07/2011 22:12:23 Edited by: ZyferDK on 05/07/2011 22:11:58 im totally fine with the way CCP is working right now. As you read this please listen to this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ i have a few things to say and first off i must say that some of you people need to stop complaining about the smallest things about CCP, do you do the same in real life? infront of your friends? if u got any that is. Would you think it would be fair if everything you did got shot down by the guy you tried to make it work for? And really really tried? You gotta relax and stop embarrasing yourself, you wanted CCP not to add non vanity items and you got that, you wanted better communication and you should really give them some damn time, they have been through a rough time right now and if i know right they are doing what they can, they fixed what alot of you were whining about today and still that wasnt enough? i see right now why CCP stopped their communication in the first place because this is so not going anywhere, your acting like kids, like your sitting with the cards here and have no respect of a company that gives you a game that you play regulary keeping the servers up and updates it all the time, try's to fix what bugs there are, and listens to the community. Have you ever been on a date? do you have a girlfriend? have you ever talked to her being a good listener and instead of answering to what she says you do it in your head instead? CCP does NOT have to create a reply when they agree with one of you, yes we are paying customers and so am i, they dont have to tell you the server is down, you will find out that its down, when the server is down because of an update then i really DO think that CCP facepalms. You cant go through life without making mistakes, and if you think you can, then you gotta wake up seriously. tl;dr(for reading impaired) Give them a break on these times, and act like adults for once in your life.
General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.07.05 22:15:00 - [39] Please don't quit, OP. If you do I truly WILL be the worst poster in all of Eve Online :( CSM 6: Let's get Windypops indypops.
Just Another Toon	Posted - 2011.07.05 22:17:00 - [40] at least do a petition that YOU DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR!! Are you fecking kidding me?
Diomedes Calypso Aetolian Armada	Posted - 2011.07.05 22:46:00 - [41] It's over . Those that care have probably moved on. The early idealism of virtual realities isn't 100% lost but the pricing model that brings real world currency into the virtual realms is here to stay in all but what will be a few odd hold-outs . Part is due to a black market, but more is due to a strong customer demand (by a non insignificant fraction) that a for profit business would be silly to waste. The idealists are a much tinier percentage There's anotherlarger group in the middle who are only against MT as realists to a degree that they might "go to far" . And there are a large perecentage that don't give it a thought unless it went incredibly too far. I'm somewhere between the idealist and the realist camp.. closer to the idealist side perhaps except broad brush things like character or currency sales which would have less effect on game design that promotion of individual perks for $ (even if available also for game currency) Bottom line though, is the practice of MT is widely accepted, and the more widely practiced it is, the more expected it is. EVE isn't dying, unless they go too far or that tiny segment of idealists truly were material to drawing and retaining people to a niche game. Will a more mainstream group be more fickle ? probably.. but we already know that new comers are fickle but drawing more people is bound to retain more longer term even if they are retained at a bit lower precentage. There ares still some incredibly idealist things about EVE.. and nothing will take away from the ground breaking they've done on a single shard universe...(and which still hasnt' been impitated much) , the economics are still unsurpassed (by a longshot above the norm)... no bind on contact etc. Plenty of admirable things for those engrossed in the virtual reality thing... just a dissapointment in a focus for a chunk of the future game design efforts.
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.07.05 23:39:00 - [42] Edited by: General Xenophon on 05/07/2011 23:43:55 Originally by: Valari Nala Zena God, like it makes a difference. Originally by: Scozia2 boohoo you'd think it was the end of the world cause you couldn't play an online game. Originally by: Sangroku YOU IDIOT! Do you believe the world revolves around your capacity or not to play the game? NOONE was out signing petitions when the boot.ini issue arrised and computers were ruined! Go out, have a drink, get some sun. Don't just stand in front of the computer wating for the server to be up and fuming! Originally by: Erik CoolBreeze If you don't like it, gtfo. Originally by: Xenu And the worst part is you have no choice but to subscribe. Just imagine if you had the power to quit if you didn't like it! Originally by: CCPforumwarrior STOP COMPLAININGG!!! U IDIOOT! QQQQLOL! Lol. People 'flaming' about people flaming CCP. Nothing 'entitled' about asking a company to provide reliable service for something you're paying a monthly fee for. Also nothing new with CCP. Op's not wrong about that. If you guys get so butthurt about reading people flaming on the forums then don't read the forums.
San Severina Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.06 00:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Sangroku YOU IDIOT! Do you believe the world revolves around your capacity or not to play the game? NOONE was out signing petitions when the boot.ini issue arrised and computers were ruined! Go out, have a drink, get some sun. Don't just stand in front of the computer wating for the server to be up and fuming! Start the post with an insult & expect the person to read further! Who's the idiot exactly?
San Severina Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.06 00:20:00 - [44] Originally by: General Xenophon Lol. People 'flaming' about people flaming CCP. Nothing 'entitled' about asking a company to provide reliable service for something you're paying a monthly fee for. Also nothing new with CCP. Op's not wrong about that. If you guys get so butthurt about reading people flaming on the forums then don't read the forums. Critics are silenced & we are left with 2 pages of fanbois/ALTS, great signs for the future of EvE. The player-base is being reduced to a bunch of smiling 'yes' men with no clue! Primed & ready with their wallets open for dress the dolly & an expensive chat room for empty heads, virgins & perverts to Cyber in. What happened to my spaceship MMO?
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.06 01:15:00 - [45] Originally by: San Severina Originally by: General Xenophon Lol. People 'flaming' about people flaming CCP. Nothing 'entitled' about asking a company to provide reliable service for something you're paying a monthly fee for. Also nothing new with CCP. Op's not wrong about that. If you guys get so butthurt about reading people flaming on the forums then don't read the forums. Critics are silenced & we are left with 2 pages of fanbois/ALTS, great signs for the future of EvE. The player-base is being reduced to a bunch of smiling 'yes' men with no clue! Primed & ready with their wallets open for dress the dolly & an expensive chat room for empty heads, virgins & perverts to Cyber in. What happened to my spaceship MMO? Stop alt-posting Fergusson. It's unbecoming.
Olvel	Posted - 2011.07.06 01:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Graphiso CCP is treating us like customers have no rights..CCP, we are not your friends, family etc we pay you so we do have certain rights. It's a game. We're not talking about a heart/lung machine that's keeping you alive... Nor an unsafe car driving down the highway. It's an entertaining diversion - no different than a novel or a movie. About the only "right" we customers have is to choose whether we want to pay for the product that CCP is offering, or not. We don't have to play EVE. If CCP loses enough customers it will have to make changes. If CCP does not lose customers, there isn't much point in making changes.
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.07.06 01:50:00 - [47] Edited by: General Xenophon on 06/07/2011 01:55:46 Originally by: Important Person Originally by: San Severina Originally by: General Xenophon Lol. People 'flaming' about people flaming CCP. Nothing 'entitled' about asking a company to provide reliable service for something you're paying a monthly fee for. Also nothing new with CCP. Op's not wrong about that. If you guys get so butthurt about reading people flaming on the forums then don't read the forums. Critics are silenced & we are left with 2 pages of fanbois/ALTS, great signs for the future of EvE. The player-base is being reduced to a bunch of smiling 'yes' men with no clue! Primed & ready with their wallets open for dress the dolly & an expensive chat room for empty heads, virgins & perverts to Cyber in. What happened to my spaceship MMO? Stop alt-posting Fergusson. It's unbecoming. I endorse this message. Alt posting is silly and counter productive. Rage with your main ccp chars not with your forum alts :P Also, clearly fan 'bois' love their game too blindly to care what happens to it. "JUST PLUG IT INTO MY VEINS!!!!"
Cornullus Rage	Posted - 2011.07.06 03:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Sangroku YOU IDIOT! Do you believe the world revolves around your capacity or not to play the game? NOONE was out signing petitions when the boot.ini issue arrised and computers were ruined! But players did RAGE and CCP did fix that issue with out a summit of the CSM. It took less than a day for code to be fixed.

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