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Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 740	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:01:00 - [61] - Quote Some people playing whatever game are simply and always be stupid/jackass/fake bad boys/paranoid rl or in game, but there's nothing possible to improve them no matter how hard you try. Darwin law just didn't applied to them and that is a fact. You know it, it's ok. Be sad for them not knowing who they really are and let them be. This being said, the majority of people playing on the internet are awesome people once you pick the time to know them better. I'm making tons of new relations, people at the first time I wouldn't even give them a chance for whatever but once the step is done you can find they're actually very interesting people, often very cool and probably people you might as well keep on your friend list for a long while. brb
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2876	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:10:00 - [62] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public. Legal and easy abortions which were intended to be safe and rare. Are now used as a major form of birth control. Liberal democratic policies which promotes the idea of "you are your own God, there is no other, do what you wish." I for one, am stunned at the self-righteous, moral high ground that soo many take in regards to this game, whereas our society is demanding that morals be tossed to the wind. What is good and what is evil? Who decides if there is no God? No higher authority than ourselves? Why do people like you still exist? "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
Too-Boku Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 27	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:17:00 - [63] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright.
Corwain Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition 4	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:21:00 - [64] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Too-Boku wrote: Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public. Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Well I suppose with the amount of gratuitous and bloody violence, ****, slavery, incest, theft, treachery and child-murder in the Bible, it's hardly surprising that removing such a rich source of bad ideas has had such a positive result. I would say that EVE actually raises some very interesting points that go over the heads of both the religious and the atheist. For instance...if you agreed to go into EVE for real as a pod pilot for a certain number or "deaths" before you were pulled out would you play EVE any differently? Does whatever happens in EVE stay in EVE? How do we know (for sure) RL isn't just another virtual world of some kind? Perhaps everyone here has already signed off on "whatever happens in RL stays in RL." Who's to say a just "sysadmin" wouldn't be as hands-off CCP? OR, perhaps I really am sinning by exercising my "free will" and causing another human being to suffer (however superficially) by blowing up his internet spaceship.
Corwain Tea And Sympathy Ltd. Liability Reckless Ambition 4	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:22:00 - [65] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. Pretty sure he's talking about these statistics. That said, Pinker is a great linguist...not statistician.
Too-Boku Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 27	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:24:00 - [66] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: Why do people like you still exist? Paul Oliver wrote: Because I choose to be. Why don't you see that what I stated is also pvp?
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 2420	Posted - 2012.09.17 19:51:00 - [67] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. You do know how long a couple of decades is correct? To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base.
Abannan Moira. Villore Accords 29	Posted - 2012.09.17 20:05:00 - [68] - Quote I am gallente but definatly not french
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 261	Posted - 2012.09.17 20:28:00 - [69] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: I donate half of my paychecks to orphanages, but only so they feel a greater sense of loss when I burn them down. I totally only mine and manufacture in EVE though. Wow, I do the same, except it's chruches. If the church is also an orphanage it's usually a bonus. In EVE, I build stuff; go figure.
Jett0 Surface Warfare Tribal Band 272	Posted - 2012.09.17 21:23:00 - [70] - Quote What if your main is a pretty cool dude, but your alt is a merciless pirate? Occasionally plays sober
Lord Zim 1505	Posted - 2012.09.17 21:25:00 - [71] - Quote What if I'm the cuddliest of cuddly carebears ingame, but jack the ripper with a chainsaw and miniguns strapped to my shoulders IRL?
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 579	Posted - 2012.09.17 21:28:00 - [72] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. Not to call you dumb or anything but you should probably re-read the thing you quoted then look at your graphs again then go "OH GOD I'M DUMB".
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2892	Posted - 2012.09.17 21:30:00 - [73] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. Not to call you dumb or anything but you should probably re-read the thing you quoted then look at your graphs again then go "OH GOD I'M DUMB". Maybe she was reading them upside down. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
Yatama Kautsuo Tencus 41	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:11:00 - [74] - Quote Quoted from the comments on the site linked in OP: AnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 9:28 AM Shame those same people didn't show love and respect to the other side when one of their pilots died. I think the banner said "1 less in fleet" Reply Replies AnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 12:47 PM Way to miss the point, mate... AnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 4:24 PM Explain? ZethSeptember 17, 2012 4:52 PM Sadly I believe this to be true. If the death was of Maka from -A- or Vince from NCDOT then I would be suprised if local was not filled with "Where is Maka/Vince now?!?!" spams..... That is just the way the community they have built works, at least in my eyes. Even after seeing NCDOT pay tribute to Vile the Goons only protect their own. if this is really true i have only one word: hypocrites...
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 253	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:17:00 - [75] - Quote Well known fact.... People in anomymous settings act as they would like to act in real life, but are unable too due to pesky laws and such. It's no different than drinking. You lose your inhibitions and say and do things that you always wanted too, things you would probably not even consider doing while sober.... "CCP, is a cutting edge developer, they have found a way to sell lag to their customers, and make them believe it's a feature."
Denidil Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations 518	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:18:00 - [76] - Quote Gillia Winddancer wrote: There is no such thing as a complete different personality, with the exception if you happen to suffer from DID. and nobody suffers from DID.. most of the professional psychological community these days considers DID a hoax. Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 394	Posted - 2012.09.17 23:44:00 - [77] - Quote I am of the opinion that if you enjoy causing grief and overall ill intent to human beings, even if using tools that add degrees of separation, your enjoyment is real, not imaginary or pretend. Notice how my interpretation doesn't mean that if you PVP you are a griefer in real life. However, if you use game mechanics (such as PVP) as a tool to cause grief (real grief and ill intent), then you are a griefer. It all boils down to what your intentions are.
Lord Zim 1506	Posted - 2012.09.17 23:46:00 - [78] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: I am of the opinion that if you enjoy causing grief and overall ill intent to human beings, even if using tools that add degrees of separation, your enjoyment is real, not imaginary or pretend. Notice how my interpretation doesn't mean that if you PVP you are a griefer in real life. However, if you use game mechanics (such as PVP) as a tool to cause grief (real grief and ill intent), then you are a griefer. It all boils down to what your intentions are. And?
Smiknight The Plebian Republic 0	Posted - 2012.09.17 23:53:00 - [79] - Quote While I agree that it is a gross generalization, there is more truth to it than most are willing to admit. I consider Eve Online to be an intoxicant, in that like alcohol, it causes the obnoxious to be become more so, but it also causes the repressed to blossom, if you will. I am sure that many who play are huge walking dongs, because nobody has corrected them from being so, but so many more act out in Eve because they dare not do it in real life. To be frank, I would wager a bent penny that the biggest assmuppets in game are the ones who live with the greatest amount of repression and fear out of game. Eve is their drug, ad like most drugs, it removes their inhibitions and thus like any great amount of water behind a dam, when you remove the dam, the villagers below die suddenly and violently. I'd go even further and wager the posting of this thread is the result of some level of guilt for a horrible action, of which the generalization that is the title was a product. Someone got butthurt, in other words. Do you understand how much resurrection hurts?
ian papabear The Syndicate Inc LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 17	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:02:00 - [80] - Quote I have to agreen that your ingame personality is a mild or an exact representation of the person you are in real life. But in the end you cant dictate a persons action nor can you judge them. If they want to act like a moron and ruin the player expereicne for others why disrespecting, insulting, and griefing then so be it. I personally stay away from the above because firstly I wasnt raised to act like that in real life, my mother didnt instill me with values on how to ruin a persons mood. in addition to that i plan on becoming a police officer and simply put im not going to be a hypocrit and exhibit that behavior and at the same time try to do something that only people who have integrity, compassion, bravery deserve. im not above anyone, but i am above certain actions and trolling is just something that i will not and can not do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 394	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:06:00 - [81] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: I am of the opinion that if you enjoy causing grief and overall ill intent to human beings, even if using tools that add degrees of separation, your enjoyment is real, not imaginary or pretend. Notice how my interpretation doesn't mean that if you PVP you are a griefer in real life. However, if you use game mechanics (such as PVP) as a tool to cause grief (real grief and ill intent), then you are a griefer. It all boils down to what your intentions are. And? And saying "it's only a game" and "I'm actually a saint that recovers lost wallets in real life" are excuses to mask real ill social behaviors. By the way, is this Tippia? Just wondering :).
Too-Boku Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 27	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:20:00 - [82] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: SmilingVagrant wrote: Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. Not to call you dumb or anything but you should probably re-read the thing you quoted then look at your graphs again then go "OH GOD I'M DUMB". Maybe she was reading them upside down. You nerds are closely examining the decline- but conveniently ignoring where the tracking begins. This is why people troll you and grief you ingame. YOU NERDS ARE TAKING THIS GAME WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.
Lord Zim 1506	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:45:00 - [83] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Lord Zim wrote: MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: I am of the opinion that if you enjoy causing grief and overall ill intent to human beings, even if using tools that add degrees of separation, your enjoyment is real, not imaginary or pretend. Notice how my interpretation doesn't mean that if you PVP you are a griefer in real life. However, if you use game mechanics (such as PVP) as a tool to cause grief (real grief and ill intent), then you are a griefer. It all boils down to what your intentions are. And? And saying "it's only a game" and "I'm actually a saint that recovers lost wallets in real life" are excuses to mask real ill social behaviors. So if I like to grief someone by, say, blowing up their mackinaw, I'm one step closer to frying kittens for fun? MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: By the way, is this Tippia? Just wondering :). Does it look like the name says "Tippia"?
MatrixSkye Mk2 Republic University Minmatar Republic 394	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:51:00 - [84] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: So if I like to grief someone by, say, blowing up their mackinaw, I'm one step closer to frying kittens for fun? No. Because Rules and laws keep you in check in the "real" world, while you're free to express your inhibitions in a game such as Eve. Quote: Does it look like the name says "Tippia"? Honestly? No. It doesn't. But your sarcastic responses from here and other threads seem to be very similar. I'm just wondering.
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4716	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:53:00 - [85] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Malcanis wrote: Oh you mean the massive and sustained drop in violent crime we've seen over the last couple of decades? Yo dawg I heard you like statistics. UK http://i.imgur.com/F333R.jpg US http://i.imgur.com/ZnPb5.jpg Three times as high as it used to be. Unfortunately there is no reliable world-wide stat. Just keep telling yourself everything is alright. graphs without context, nice one please leave
Mars Theran Caldari Provisions Caldari State 286	Posted - 2012.09.18 00:56:00 - [86] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Marcus Harikari wrote: Crrrazy Ivan wrote: The main reason I play an MMO is to immerse myself into the role playing aspect and become something in game that I am not in real life. Just because I chose the life of a pirate in game does not mean that I sail the high seas with Somali pirates off the coast of Africa. I am a peaceful highsec miner carebear in-game. But IRL I am a vicious warlord!!! Are you that guy they wanted to send an army after somewhere in Africa, there was this whole 2012 thing going on, but it sorta ... No, that was me. I want to send an army to Africa and bring an end to the evil there, then build water purification and desalination plants, and pipe water inland to the edges of the Sahara to irrigate, create arable to farm and create agriculture while restoring the land, and then hand it over to the people in Africa who deserve it: the tribes and families who respect the land, and each other. Allow a Democratic-Socialist government which is a partial Monarchy, led by one of the original royal families of Africa that were well loved, and respected to take control of the country after that is done and monitor the situation. Africa should be a peaceful, developing nation; instead it is a home of war and famine and disease. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away.
ian papabear The Syndicate Inc LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 17	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:23:00 - [87] - Quote lots of people are posting stuff like they are good people in real life but becasue its a game they can act however they want, i wouldnt mind observing them in real life and if you are the good person you claim to be in real life why act like a jackass in game? thats just being fake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FJBdQUAO4
Jonah Gravenstein 1315	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:30:00 - [88] - Quote Too-Boku wrote: Eve Online and the emergent gameplay therein; is a product of our society. In the 60's decisions were made with far-reaching impacts that are coming to harvest today. Removing the bible from schools and the outlaw of mentioning of God anywhere in public. Legal and easy abortions which were intended to be safe and rare. Are now used as a major form of birth control. Liberal democratic policies which promotes the idea of "you are your own God, there is no other, do what you wish." I for one, am stunned at the self-righteous, moral high ground that soo many take in regards to this game, whereas our society is demanding that morals be tossed to the wind. What is good and what is evil? Who decides if there is no God? No higher authority than ourselves? Actually you're slightly wrong there, I left school in 87 and Religious Studies was still part of the curriculum, not only did we study Christianity, but we covered Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism & other mainstream religions. Abortion is not birth control it is a last resort, the pill and condoms are birth control although some religions are very much against either of them. In some countries abortion is still illegal or a very divisive subject with protests for and against it outside of clinics. Good and evil are determined by society at large, the question of if there is a god or not is up to the individual and what they believe and as for a higher authority than ourselves? once again society at large comes into play, if you do something that is so far from the societal norm that it offends, distresses or harms other people then you are judged by your peers. Violent crime compared to overall population has been falling since the early to mid 90's in both the US and the UK, the figures may look to be increasing but when you compare them to an ever increasing population the percentages are actually dropping. I have a funny feeling that I've been trolled CCP can't patch stupid.
Lord Zim 1506	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:32:00 - [89] - Quote MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Lord Zim wrote: So if I like to grief someone by, say, blowing up their mackinaw, I'm one step closer to frying kittens for fun? No. Because Rules and laws keep you in check in the "real" world, while you're free to express your inhibitions in a game such as Eve. So, what's the point in pointing out that "your enjoyment is real", then? This is a bit of a duh thing to say, since nobody does something time and time again without either a paycheck at the other end of it, or because they think it's fun. And what's the point in making the distinction of someone being a griefer, as opposed to being a PVPer? I mean, only ankh has said "I consider shooting players immoral and thus I have no kills.", so I take it there's a deeper point here. MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote: Quote: Does it look like the name says "Tippia"? Honestly? No. It doesn't. But your sarcastic responses from here and other threads seem to be very similar. I'm just wondering. I'm not Tippia.
Lord Zim 1506	Posted - 2012.09.18 01:32:00 - [90] - Quote ian papabear wrote: lots of people are posting stuff like they are good people in real life but becasue its a game they can act however they want, i wouldnt mind observing them in real life and if you are the good person you claim to be in real life why act like a jackass in game? thats just being fake. Role Playing Game Look this up.

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