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Sasuke Yashagoro
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:47:00 -
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everything else is meh and will get resolved to restore a point of balance.
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Ejit
Amarr STD contractors
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:48:00 -
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Ermmm....yeah okay?
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Noceur-01 Tiers
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sasuke Yashagoro everything else is meh and will get resolved to restore a point of balance.
gtfo.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 13:50:42 CCP Zulu just said that selling neural remaps 'makes sense'[link]. Guess you're out of luck. Since remaps allow you to learn certain skills faster it is the same thing.
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Sasuke Yashagoro
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Zulu just said that selling neural remaps 'makes sense'[link]. Since remaps allow you to learn certain skills faster it is the same thing.
damnit.
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Vain Eldritch
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 06/07/2011 13:50:42 CCP Zulu just said that selling neural remaps 'makes sense'[link]. Guess you're out of luck. Since remaps allow you to learn certain skills faster it is the same thing.
But I wonder if they'll go one more step and sell SP...? ______________________________
Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:56:00 -
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They do seem rather determined to undermine the founding principles of Eve at any cost. I hope it turns out ok for them.
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Noceur-01 Tiers
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.06 13:57:00 -
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First they say **** like they wont sell P2W and then they say it makes sense to sell something you normally have to wait 1 year for? wat?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/07/2011 14:01:53 There was an almighty uproar the last time CCP tried selling re-maps, and they backed down.
I guess that they didn't get the message.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Vain Eldritch
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers First they say **** like they wont sell P2W and then they say it makes sense to sell something you normally have to wait 1 year for? wat?
One could argue that you pay for SP anyway. All you are doing by allowing the purchase of SP for plex is accelerating that process. In the game context that will allow those starting now and are willing to spend the money, to catch the vets.
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Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas.
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tanya Fox on 06/07/2011 14:08:30
Originally by: Vain Eldritch
Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers First they say **** like they wont sell P2W and then they say it makes sense to sell something you normally have to wait 1 year for? wat?
One could argue that you pay for SP anyway. All you are doing by allowing the purchase of SP for plex is accelerating that process. In the game context that will allow those starting now and are willing to spend the money, to catch the vets.
If you mean you pay for SP because you pay a sub, that's not P2W.
Buying additional SP is most definately P2W.
Edit: Buying remaps is also a form of P2W although it won't have as much of an impact as SP would.
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Medidranda Livoga
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:34:00 -
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SP purchase is likely to come at some point. Skill training boosters, remaps, boosted attributes, Nyx implants. Many different options open for CCP.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 06/07/2011 14:41:03
Originally by: Sasuke Yashagoro everything else is meh and will get resolved to restore a point of balance.
With what developer resources? Dogma is finished. Ships just sometimes don't get skill bonuses. No one is allocated to fixing that anymore. So that's just how it's gonna be now.
The spaceship part of the game is horribly broken with no fix in sight. Perhaps that has a silver lining for CCP: more ship destruction = bigger isk sink.
I see no reason to expect the spaceship part of the game will be fixed in any time soon. Perhaps I should fly to Jita and manipulate the market.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 06/07/2011 14:39:46 There's a part of me, looking at my relatively noobish characters, that I have to admit is tempted. A burst of skill points would be most welcome. But, ... but... no. Tempting as it is, it really violates and craps on the whole point of earning what you get through time. If you really want more skill points, go buy an alt that has already spent the time being developed properly.
I worry, however, that they know the temptation is out there and will prey on it.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:41:00 -
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As a stunt, they could sell Vangels and Malice for $$$$.
"Everybody" is allegedly so annoyed at Hydrabreak for "buying" the alliance tournament, they would probably quite like the opportunity to turn the 25bn isk Vanity Ship Prizes into relatively worthless MT ships.
This would set a precedent for ships4dollars in a way the players would accept and it would be hard for them to balk at later.
Just an idea like... probably not even a very good one... but nonetheless Soundwave, think about it yeah...
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StillBorn CrackBaby
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:52:00 -
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Oohhh I can hardly wait until I can buy Skill Points. Only a matter of time, you'll see.... Rage on fewls...
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Carrelle Rouppon
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:30:00 -
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Dumb thread.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yarrrrrhh
CCP Zulu just said that selling neural remaps 'makes sense'[link]. Guess you're out of luck. Since remaps allow you to learn certain skills faster it is the same thing.
I actually applaud buying remaps: I'm a min/maxer; this would be a dream come true for me! Please, CCP Zulu, do it!
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/07/2011 14:01:53 There was an almighty uproar the last time CCP tried selling re-maps, and they backed down.
I guess that they didn't get the message.
The majority of those who roared will likely get tired of the game and unsub in the next year so ccp can try again.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/07/2011 14:01:53 There was an almighty uproar the last time CCP tried selling re-maps, and they backed down.
There was a lot of resistance to the idea from CSM5, who flatly refused to countenance it.
Somehow I think CSM6 will have no such problems - they'll wave it through as absolutely fine and CCP will claim that the "players" have chosen this route.
Its amusing watching the naivety of people who have only "known" CCP for a couple of years.
Its all a done deal guys - define "game-breaking". You can't. Not in such a way it precludes specifics happening.
Heh I wish I'd followed my instincts back in April/May and not given CCP the benefit of the doubt (mainly due to Sreegs there). As it is I'm here until next year, don't make the same mistake I did mmm? It'd be sensible to limit yourselves to a max of 3 months sub "just in case".
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:35:00 -
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How is selling a remap for 10's of millions of ISK possibly a p2win issue. You still have to learn "over time" the skills. I have characters that still have 2 remaps available. I guess that gives me some sort of an advantage in a weird tin-foil hat kinda wat huh?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Noceur-01 Tiers First they say **** like they wont sell P2W and then they say it makes sense to sell something you normally have to wait 1 year for? wat?
Why don't you have a look in Character Bazaar and see how hard it it to buy SP.
Wait one year! LOL
Wait 10 hours you mean. That's how long it takes for the transfer to go through.
Mr Epeen
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Dark Assassin15
Failed Diplomacy B A N E
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:09:00 -
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seriously , go buy a damn monocle u failure. ---
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Tanya Fox
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tanya Fox on 06/07/2011 18:10:43
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu How is selling a remap for 10's of millions of ISK possibly a p2win issue. You still have to learn "over time" the skills. I have characters that still have 2 remaps available. I guess that gives me some sort of an advantage in a weird tin-foil hat kinda wat huh?
Being able to remap anytime you feel like it will keeps your training at it's most efficient if you're willing to pay for it. So it is P2W although it is more of a long-term P2W due to having to train stills.
The fact they are considering it after they had already shelved the idea does not look good for the game as far as P2W goes.
SP for sale still might be on the table because it is the one most likely to sell well.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Medidranda Livoga SP purchase is likely to come at some point. Skill training boosters, remaps, boosted attributes, Nyx implants. Many different options open for CCP.
Yay! I can't wait for a game where everyone is in the biggest possible high level ship with the best possible fit! Whoop! /end sarcasm
Have we learnt nothing from WoW where everyone is in the same gear at the same stage of the game doing exactly the same things? Do you really think that is going to work in a sandbox with a player run economy?
Please think, people. The repercussions from selling SP are surely not rocket science to figure out... *shakes head* -- Frog blast the vent core! |
Mark Sherlock
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Posted - 2011.07.06 22:43:00 -
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@ OP
You can buy SP right now...
If they release SP in the form of AUG, that will just compete with PLEX > ISK > SP Characters
Herp Derp
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AnzacPaul
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.07.06 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Toovhon
Originally by: Medidranda Livoga SP purchase is likely to come at some point. Skill training boosters, remaps, boosted attributes, Nyx implants. Many different options open for CCP.
Yay! I can't wait for a game where everyone is in the biggest possible high level ship with the best possible fit! Whoop! /end sarcasm
Have we learnt nothing from WoW where everyone is in the same gear at the same stage of the game doing exactly the same things? Do you really think that is going to work in a sandbox with a player run economy?
Please think, people. The repercussions from selling SP are surely not rocket science to figure out... *shakes head*
For me skill points are one of the many things that make this game what it is.
You get a certain respect from younger players if you have a nice amount of sp.
Soon im afraid it will be "so how much did it cost you to get your current sp, not HOW LONG. Whether it be by constant remap, attribute enhancers, skillpoint selling etc.
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CptConorado
Amarr Avenger Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.07.06 23:19:00 -
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Read title as "I'm solid and long", expected ponies... left disappointed.
0/10. ________________________________________________ Some say the universe is almost full of honest people, well I say the universe is full of almost honest people. -Unknown |
ninjaholic
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Posted - 2011.07.06 23:22:00 -
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I agree with buying remaps, but NEVER buying SP. I'm instantly out of the game with 4 accounts if ÇÇP allow us to buy SP.
+ Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool!
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