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catallin
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:33:00 -
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So a wormhole shows "This wormhole has had its stability critically disrupted by the mass of numerous ships passing through and is on the verge of collapse." when it has less than 5% of it's total allowable mass left, right?
Or does it?
D382 - shows on every eve related site as having 2 billion kg. Let's make that 2000mil. Ok so we got it down to critical (5% would mean 100mil kg right?). A bc jumped through (14 mil kg) and then a dominix with a microwarpdrive (147mil kg). To our surprise it didn't collapse... Then a tengu jumped back and forth with afterburner on, and on the 3rd jump it finally collapsed... let's do the math.
147 mil kg (dominix with mwd on) + 14 mil kg drake + 3x19 mil kg (tengu with ab on) = 218 mil kg.
So my question is... Does a wh show critical at 5% or is it a different value? Thank you for your help.
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No Moar
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:47:00 -
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My question is... Where did you get that a WH takes into account active modules on your ship?
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catallin
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: catallin on 06/07/2011 21:50:20 An active afterburner or microwarpdrive adds up to your total mass. Right click - info your ship when you have one active, you'll see.
Either way, even if we say a wh doesn't take that into account. A dominix is 97 mil kg... Suppose the limit was 100 mil and take into account the previous BC that jumped through... It should have closed
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Jack Tronic
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Posted - 2011.07.07 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Tronic on 07/07/2011 00:38:34
It's 10% brah. Please go stab the person who told you otherwise.
Quote: My question is... Where did you get that a WH takes into account active modules on your ship?
LRN2MASS brah.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
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Posted - 2011.07.07 02:48:00 -
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Wormhole mass varies by at least +/-10%
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catallin
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Posted - 2011.07.07 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: catallin on 07/07/2011 15:58:01
Originally by: Jack Tronic Edited by: Jack Tronic on 07/07/2011 00:38:34
It's 10% brah. Please go stab the person who told you otherwise.
have to kill this then? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole#Wormhole_Collapse
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: catallin
have to kill this then? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole#Wormhole_Collapse
It is a wiki afterall, should always be taken with a grain of salt anyway, however:
Originally by: Tau Cabalander Wormhole mass varies by at least +/-10%
is true. Although in my experience it's usually slightly more than less. Less can burn you, a lot.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Cipher Jones on 07/07/2011 16:55:23
Originally by: catallin So a wormhole shows "This wormhole has had its stability critically disrupted by the mass of numerous ships passing through and is on the verge of collapse." when it has less than 5% of it's total allowable mass left, right?
Or does it?
D382 - shows on every eve related site as having 2 billion kg. Let's make that 2000mil. Ok so we got it down to critical (5% would mean 100mil kg right?). A bc jumped through (14 mil kg) and then a dominix with a microwarpdrive (147mil kg). To our surprise it didn't collapse... Then a tengu jumped back and forth with afterburner on, and on the 3rd jump it finally collapsed... let's do the math.
147 mil kg (dominix with mwd on) + 14 mil kg drake + 3x19 mil kg (tengu with ab on) = 218 mil kg.
So my question is... Does a wh show critical at 5% or is it a different value? Thank you for your help.
The final message is +/- 10%, and don't forget to add the mass of your ship to that number.
Quote: is true. Although in my experience it's usually slightly more than less. Less can burn you, a lot.
What you want to do is get yourself a HIC and put 5 warp disruption fields in the hi slots. This will allow you to jump out of the hole with about 350 mass. Then you have a BS AB in a mid slot for jumping back.
You can make a spreadsheet like my corpies did, but you can also just do the math yourself. Make it so your heaviest ship is the last one back through the hole. I make the mass 50mil less than the lowest estimate (i.e. on a 3 billion hole i would have the Orca on the outside of the hole with 2650 mass on it).
If it doesn't close on the last jump in, start using the HIC. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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