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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.06 23:13:00 -
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Ok, I just saw inception for the first time, and I'm wondering...does anyone else think the whole thing was Cobb's dream, and that he is really stuck in limbo still at the end?
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Sook Statta Hahndah
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Posted - 2011.07.07 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: democrities Ok, I just saw inception for the first time, and I'm wondering...does anyone else think the whole thing was Cobb's dream, and that he is really stuck in limbo still at the end?
Really? The whole point was to leave you guessing at the end.
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Shani Khorme
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Posted - 2011.07.07 01:09:00 -
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I started freeze-framing at one point to check if it was true...
Keep your eye very very close on Cobb's wedding ring. He's not in a dream at the end.
The end doesn't mean that he's dreaming, it's supposed to make you doubt that he is in the real world even though he is.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 01:14:00 -
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Check the outfits of the children aswell. The pattern on it is always identical in every dream scene, but it's difference in the end sequence. Definetely not a dream.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 08:01:00 -
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Yeah but in the end his kids don't seem to have aged. Also, would Cobb's totem be effective, since it wasn't really his, but Mals? Also doesn't the totem only tell you if you are in someone elses dream? Also, his kids at the end don't appear to have aged. I think it's more likely that instead of Mal being delusional, Cobb was in limbo the entire time. That Mal and kids are alive safe in reality. When Cobb goes to find a new architect, Alfred tells him "Come back to reality".
So I submit that he is stuck in limbo.
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The R00k
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Posted - 2011.07.07 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: The R00k on 07/07/2011 08:46:51 There is a difference in the rate it spins in the last sequence to any point in the rest of the film. It allows the viewer to pick their own end. I would say it leans more to the fact it was not a dream as it suggests its slowing down to stop. but the point is its a film makers plot device to leave you to pick.
The entire film works both ways. Even leading you to expect a twist with his wife that never comes. You expect some complex moment of realisation when in fact the plot is a fairly linear bank job type movie. They plot then carry out the job with some minor kinks in the plan they fix on the fly.
But because of the nature of the story and sub stories with his family and wife you expect a twist. due to this expectation when the end comes and you do not have one. The viewer attaches them self to the final plot device where they get to pick if the twist was really there or not.
the entire movie plays off it. It is clever but from a story telling point of view I prefer the straight up twist. I like to see if I can guess it before hand.
That is " The R00K with two 00 not oo. to you sir |
democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: The R00k Edited by: The R00k on 07/07/2011 08:46:51 There is a difference in the rate it spins in the last sequence to any point in the rest of the film. It allows the viewer to pick their own end. I would say it leans more to the fact it was not a dream as it suggests its slowing down to stop. but the point is its a film makers plot device to leave you to pick.
The entire film works both ways. Even leading you to expect a twist with his wife that never comes. You expect some complex moment of realisation when in fact the plot is a fairly linear bank job type movie. They plot then carry out the job with some minor kinks in the plan they fix on the fly.
But because of the nature of the story and sub stories with his family and wife you expect a twist. due to this expectation when the end comes and you do not have one. The viewer attaches them self to the final plot device where they get to pick if the twist was really there or not.
the entire movie plays off it. It is clever but from a story telling point of view I prefer the straight up twist. I like to see if I can guess it before hand.
Straight up? As in Bruce Willis being dead in 6th sense?
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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
Also, his kids at the end don't appear to have aged.
Actually this is incorrect. If you stick to the credits, you'll find the kids are played by different actors. From IMDB:
Claire Geare... Phillipa Cobb - 3 years Magnus Nolan... James Cobb - 20 months
Taylor Geare... Phillipa (5 years) Johnathan Geare... James (3 years)
I posit however that it's possible the whole thing is either Miles or Ariadne's dream to try to get Cobb to get over Mal's death. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Khors
El Barco Pirata
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:01:00 -
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The final scene is in my opinion reinforcing the idea about the 'seed' that grows in your mind. Which it pulls off quite clearly: "what is real?".
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Reiisha on 07/07/2011 16:02:35 You people are putting way too much into this. The ending is meant as inception - Same thing that happened to Mal in the movie.
Now everyone is trying to put some meaning behind that spinning top and drawing the strange conclusion that Cobb is still dreaming even though he isn't.
Edit: In other words, you're all now murderous jealous dead wives.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Something Random
Gallente The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:31:00 -
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I took it as he was still dreaming - nobody ever let him finish the totem test from about 3/4 through the movie.
Way i saw it he went to Cain, his dead wifes Dad who had himself a plot to do to him what he did to his daughter using his rather good architect. The architect started the process almost instantly and the film ends with Decaprio in the hands of Cain still in a dream and ready to be served vengeance.
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Something Random I took it as he was still dreaming - nobody ever let him finish the totem test from about 3/4 through the movie.
Way i saw it he went to Cain, his dead wifes Dad who had himself a plot to do to him what he did to his daughter using his rather good architect. The architect started the process almost instantly and the film ends with Decaprio in the hands of Cain still in a dream and ready to be served vengeance.
In his dreams, Cobb always wears a wedding ring.
He does not wear a wedding ring when he's not dreaming.
At the end he does not wear a wedding ring, hence he is not dreaming.
That in combination with all the other clues everyone is missing >_<
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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LLoyd Thomson
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:58:00 -
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Soooo ... is there a spoon or not?
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:51:00 -
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Not dreaming - and as someone pointed out, the ending plants an idea in your head and immediately the word 'I N C E P T I O N' appears on the screen - kinda gives the game away really.
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Something Random
Gallente The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
Straight up? As in Bruce Willis being dead in 6th sense?
Everyone laughs about this now but i maintain the way they made him 'appear' to not be dead - and thus start the movie - was a very clever thing. Probably one of my favourite plays with 'film' ever actually.
Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Something Random I took it as he was still dreaming - nobody ever let him finish the totem test from about 3/4 through the movie.
Way i saw it he went to Cain, his dead wifes Dad who had himself a plot to do to him what he did to his daughter using his rather good architect. The architect started the process almost instantly and the film ends with Decaprio in the hands of Cain still in a dream and ready to be served vengeance.
In his dreams, Cobb always wears a wedding ring.
He does not wear a wedding ring when he's not dreaming.
At the end he does not wear a wedding ring, hence he is not dreaming.
That in combination with all the other clues everyone is missing >_<
At the end of the movie though you never get a clear view of his left hand to see if he is wearing it or not.
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Shani Khorme
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Posted - 2011.07.07 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: democrities
Originally by: Reiisha
Originally by: Something Random I took it as he was still dreaming - nobody ever let him finish the totem test from about 3/4 through the movie.
Way i saw it he went to Cain, his dead wifes Dad who had himself a plot to do to him what he did to his daughter using his rather good architect. The architect started the process almost instantly and the film ends with Decaprio in the hands of Cain still in a dream and ready to be served vengeance.
In his dreams, Cobb always wears a wedding ring.
He does not wear a wedding ring when he's not dreaming.
At the end he does not wear a wedding ring, hence he is not dreaming.
That in combination with all the other clues everyone is missing >_<
At the end of the movie though you never get a clear view of his left hand to see if he is wearing it or not.
You do actually. I started freezeframing the bluray, he's got it on his hand at the airport and you see it for a split second as he spins the top.
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democrities
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:22:00 -
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He spins the top with his right hand, not his left.
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Mara Tyrano
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:31:00 -
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THATS WHAT SHE S...wait that Conception isn't it....
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Shani Khorme
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Posted - 2011.07.08 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: democrities He spins the top with his right hand, not his left.
Star freeze-framing. ;p
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Sgt Blade
Caldari Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.09 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Sgt Blade on 09/07/2011 07:02:46 everyone says that he wears his ring when he isn't in a dream but how about the whole film being a dream itself and everything you watched never really happened :O |
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