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inVictu5
Globo Gym Purple Cobras
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Posted - 2012.09.18 01:12:00 -
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Ok so Im 30 yrs old, and Ive been playing games since the commodore 64. Mainly FPS games.
I was expecting a much more polished game than I seen. The graphics are horribly dark and boring. No matter how I adjusted my tv the graphics and sound were all screwy. I know the PS3 is pretty dated but come on. Im not expecting COD or BF graphics and frame rates but somewhere in between MAG and Planetside would be nice.
1 server.. really guys?
Its UN-intuitive. Extremely clunky. I had to move 4 feet from my big ass tv to read the text. Everythings with the layout is wrong.. Reminds me of the horrid overview in eve o.
Too much info for new players as always.. Wheres the eve learning curve picture.
Its a niche player base. This game has fail written all over it for American players. I enjoy non-cod games with more depth, ie why I play eve. But even as you spawn.. where did my team go? Im a new player I dont know where to go.. Ill try 1 of the many red markers.
Recoil and hit detection needs work.
Vehicles.. How can a up-armored vehicle sneak up behind me undetected. No sounds, no vibrations, no dust. Just red all over my screen.
No Foilage, no vegetation that Ive seen yet. Anywhere. Most of the map is corridors. jump, nope those rocks cant be climbed.
Suits are ugly as sin.
Weapons.. skills, mods, just because fittings worked for eve. unless your modifying a weapon its extremely boring.
Armor rep, shield reps.. whats next. officer fit smart bombs in the spawn area.
Everything major FPS's have learned over the years have been forgotten or avoided in this game.. Its like none of the developers have ever played any fps's.
Drop ships. Cool, but look at how small this map really is why would you need it.
Did I really lose the new rifle I just bought after I died. Who's idea was that. lol thats horrible.
I was extremely disappointed overall with the game.. The only reason I kept trying to join the full server was that maybe with how much in depth it goes I might enjoy it.
Even Battlefield heroes, the free-to-play browser based game is more fun than this.
And wtf is with the 7 download screens I had to endure to join the game. Every 2 weeks sony has a ps3 update, then theres gonna be a game update. What more, you better consolidate these.
Overall response of character movement is ********. Bought as bad as the captains quarters on my netbook. Good thing it supports SSE2 lol.
Wheres the bullet trace? Call for fire? target designation? Camouflage? CCP, do you really think the rest of the FPS games are doing it wrong. Starhawk is DUST done right. Go buy there publishing rights and profit.
anyways. Imma go back to farming LP in these fw plexs lika boss |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.09.18 08:51:00 -
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The game is entirely made around fitting and loosing your stuff , it is the main feature of the game and that every serious FPS player is exited about. If u dont like that u dotn have to go further, the game is just not for you. Deal with ti and move to COD.
And its a damn BETA i mean ppl already saying this for like months. Go on forums and post your concerns and it might get fixed. The game is still in development. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:02:00 -
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\o/ yay another "why isnt this BETA perfect" thread....
please look up the definition of a beta... - Nulla Curas |
Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:22:00 -
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Announcing your age whilst making an ignorant post like this only makes you look that much more stupid my dear OP.
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:32:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:The game is entirely made around fitting and loosing your stuff , it is the main feature of the game and that every serious FPS player is exited about. If u dont like that u dotn have to go further, the game is just not for you. Deal with ti and move to COD.
And its a damn BETA i mean ppl already saying this for like months. Go on forums and post your concerns and it might get fixed. The game is still in development.
'Serious fps player' needs a definition from you, and also I'd be interested in your opinion on what an FPS game actually is.
afaict; this is not an FPS game, it's a tactical shooter without 'full respawn', because as you pointed out, one of the features of the game is the lack of weapons if you die.
to me; an FPS is a pure action game, with Doom at one end of the spectrum and BF3 at the other end.
This is neither.
It is surprising that CCP took the approach of creating a game that linked into their existing game, when they could have created a multi-platform tactical shooter and spread their wings a little bit.
I give props for the ballz, kinda, and just hope the reviewers give it a fair review without attempting to compare it to real FPS games.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.09.18 11:41:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:The game is entirely made around fitting and loosing your stuff , it is the main feature of the game and that every serious FPS player is exited about. If u dont like that u dotn have to go further, the game is just not for you. Deal with ti and move to COD.
And its a damn BETA i mean ppl already saying this for like months. Go on forums and post your concerns and it might get fixed. The game is still in development. 'Serious fps player' needs a definition from you, and also I'd be interested in your opinion on what an FPS game actually is. afaict; this is not an FPS game, it's a tactical shooter without 'full respawn', because as you pointed out, one of the features of the game is the lack of weapons if you die. to me; an FPS is a pure action game, with Doom at one end of the spectrum and BF3 at the other end. This is neither. It is surprising that CCP took the approach of creating a game that linked into their existing game, when they could have created a multi-platform tactical shooter and spread their wings a little bit. I give props for the ballz, kinda, and just hope the reviewers give it a fair review without attempting to compare it to real FPS games. AK
Ahm in DUST you play in first person and also it is a shooter with a bit more dept and tactical layout than other FPS games. So yeah i d call it a FPS like the company that created it does and like everyeone else does. You had to creat a name to sound smart, hadnt you?
Serious FPS players i call those who are fedup with the shallowness of respawn go zerg, repeat. Serious players i call those who like to have a bit deeper game, with fittings, customizing and not fear of death penalty like DUST has.
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.09.18 13:40:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:
Ahm in DUST you play in first person and also it is a shooter with a bit more dept and tactical layout than other FPS games. So yeah i d call it a FPS like the company that created it does and like everyeone else does. You had to creat a name to sound smart, hadnt you?
Serious FPS players i call those who are fedup with the shallowness of respawn go zerg, repeat. Serious players i call those who like to have a bit deeper game, with fittings, customizing and not fear of death penalty like DUST has.
Let's not get personal, mate.
BoT; let me ask you a question...
"Would you prefer that reviewers make direct 'compare and constrasts' with all existing FPS games on PS3, or, to simply review it on its own individuals merits?"
What's it closer to (in your humble opinion): A tactical shooter OR an FPS?
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.09.18 17:28:00 -
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inVictu5 wrote:
Everything major FPS's have learned over the years have been forgotten or avoided in this game.. Its like none of the developers have ever played any fps's.
Oh im sure the X Dice members who developed Dust have never played any FPS there whole lives neither have they ever had any had any hand in developing FPS in the past.
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.18 23:29:00 -
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Lyric Lahnder wrote:inVictu5 wrote:
Everything major FPS's have learned over the years have been forgotten or avoided in this game.. Its like none of the developers have ever played any fps's.
Oh im sure the X Dice members who developed Dust have never played any FPS there whole lives neither have they ever had any had any hand in developing FPS in the past. Odvious Troll is Odvious.
And not just Dust, TF2 devs and mass effect artists.
Dust is working out pretty great so far. The updates coming soon that I can't talk about here are really going to push the game in one big push into something that will be 80% done instead of 10%. Dust is going on TQ soon and lets just say the game is going to be unrecognizable. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
inVictu5
Globo Gym Purple Cobras
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:05:00 -
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beta is the final product.. always is.. the definition of beta means squat. the reality of what beta is financially is its the final product with last minute server stability testing and show stopper bug fixes. thats it
every FPS shooter thats worth a ** has 1 thing which it does great or introduces to the industry. Dust has the fittings. But its, like I said, Unintuitive, clunky, and not fun at all actually its the opposite. Even fixing that. The feel and look of the game is way too dated. Kind of like the eve universe. Outside the spreaksheets theres no creativity.
http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/
^^ everything eve is missing |
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Anemone221
Mad 4 Gaming Legions of the Pulsar
1
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Posted - 2012.09.19 01:40:00 -
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You want a fair comparison of Dust 514 to another FPS game try BF2142 never really was that popular but it is what im getting the vibe of. (hasn't touched Dust 514 due to lack of PS3) |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:16:00 -
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inVictu5 wrote:beta is the final product.. always is.. the definition of beta means squat. the reality of what beta is financially is its the final product with last minute server stability testing and show stopper bug fixes. thats it every FPS shooter thats worth a ** has 1 thing which it does great or introduces to the industry. Dust has the fittings. But its, like I said, Unintuitive, clunky, and not fun at all actually its the opposite. Even fixing that. The feel and look of the game is way too dated. Kind of like the eve universe. Outside the spreaksheets theres no creativity. http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/^^ everything eve is missing
oh dear your back.
ok il simplify it for you...
This is the Dust 514 "beta" (<- important word). At this point developers are crunching balance issues, server issues and general development that can only be done in stress testing ie. (you got it) a BETA.
Due to the fact the devs are making lots and lots of changes almost weekly with new builds and what not, they "tone down" the game from its final release. This includes reduced graphics and sounds (to keep all these downloads we do nice and small), reduced game factors (so it doesn't have the full range of weapons, suits, game types, effects, vehicles etc, this is to reduce the variables in balancing).
And so no, this isn't some basically finished game that the developers have opened for some saps to feel good about getting into a game early. Its a real in development -> BETA <- full of bugs and problems that (if you haven't already noticed are being fixed as we type).
Please get of your my little pony and just stop playing if you still don't like it. - Nulla Curas |
Martin0
Maximum-Overload
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:29:00 -
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1) this is not the beta forum 2) the game is in beta 3)beta is different from demo 4) the game is MADE to be like EVE, everyone on 1 server and geting killed is expensive. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:29:00 -
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Martin0 wrote: [snip] the game is MADE to be like EVE, everyone on 1 server and geting killed is expensive.
And that makes an FPS/tactical shooter fun?
I am actually asking the question here, and not trolling at all; why is this game fun? GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.19 11:52:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Martin0 wrote: [snip] the game is MADE to be like EVE, everyone on 1 server and geting killed is expensive. And that makes an FPS/tactical shooter fun? I am actually asking the question here, and not trolling at all; why is this game fun?
Risk and reward - Nulla Curas |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2012.09.19 12:02:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:Martin0 wrote: [snip] the game is MADE to be like EVE, everyone on 1 server and geting killed is expensive. And that makes an FPS/tactical shooter fun? I am actually asking the question here, and not trolling at all; why is this game fun?
I d personally call it RTS (well at least for those that will be sitting in the MCC) but afterall its juts a bit deeper FPS.
And the game is fun because u can go have casual fun in highsec. Or u can have your shots metter. And economy anyone? There will be even some mods to fight against AI and trainning grounds too. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:17:00 -
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Look up what NDA means ya twit. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2012.09.19 13:21:00 -
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Seems we have a poster who's a bit confused regarding the meaning of BETA and NDA.
The former mistake makes you look like a 12 year old loser, the latter puts your EVE and DUST accounts at risk of permaban. Nyan |
inVictu5
Globo Gym Purple Cobras
5
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Posted - 2012.09.19 23:03:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Seems we have a poster who's a bit confused regarding the meaning of BETA and NDA.
The former mistake makes you look like a 12 year old loser, the latter puts your EVE and DUST accounts at risk of permaban.
Funny 7 years ago when I posted what eve onine needed as far as improvements it was met with nothing but posts such as this. Yes men CCP fan bois brown nosing for what who knows. But after 7 years some of those idea's, not mine Im sure but the communities, were implemented. Eve online is now more in depth, including moons, planets, and plans for player owned mega stations.
Posts such as defending CCP and there "Beta" offer nothing of value and dilute potential investors of what the gaming community actually wants. That is the American community.
Hate all you want but those WOW players everyone hates create such a massive income for Blizzard. If CCP were to have even a small chunk of that player base there would be a dramatic increase in PVP, player traffic, and overall an expedited development of Eve online and Dust.
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Optimo Sebiestor
The Society Calyxes
5
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Posted - 2012.09.20 11:05:00 -
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I just tumbled in to be in awe of someone actually comparing freelancer to eve.. To completly diffrent games! |
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.09.20 11:49:00 -
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Optimo Sebiestor wrote:I just tumbled in to be in awe of someone actually comparing freelancer to eve.. Two completely different games!
I wouldn't worry too much, before i thought he was just some poor disillusioned soul... unfortunately hes some winy troll not worth anyone's time - Nulla Curas |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.09.20 13:35:00 -
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Cant tell if OP is serious...... or troll.......
You do know this is a BETA? Dust was made to run on TQ, so yes.. 1 server. There will be multiple 'maps' in the final version, which will actually be planets in EVE... Just because the one you played on was small, the ones from the original BETA were pretty big. Just depends on the game mode.
I don't think I can bring my self to respond to the rest of the post....
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
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AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
346
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Posted - 2012.09.20 18:04:00 -
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oh dear...
What I got from this video is they are basically saying that as an FPS, it fails.
Not good CCP, not good at all.
You'll need a pimp trailer to recover from this kind of gaming press opinion-gathering.
Fortunately, I somehow feel that will not be an issue
Go to it.
A K GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥ Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002.
somethingjustgotreal.com |
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