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Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
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Posted - 2012.10.12 14:44:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Major Killz wrote:
Non of these ships should have anyware close to the same amount of EHP as a combat cruiser.
However you vehemently support that the Rupture has more speed than all the Attack Cruisers. Edit// Just stop posting lol.
You do know you're a cl0wn, right? Most the dudes in this thread I've flown with or have engaged me multiple times and guess what? I GET KILLZ, with multiple characters. The SKILLZ speak for it self and it B LEET.
Words are just that, words. I GET killz and I do versus multiples and WIN. Often engaging @ a disadvantage and still wining (no links, no scouts although I do from time to time). I also tend to show RESPECT to those I engage WIN or LOSE.
So no matter what random words I write in this thread it's backed up by credability, threw action and RESPECT shown in GAME. Some thing you may never have BRA. You're clueless and YOU should shut up now. Your words are GAR GAR and so are you.
- Epeen down
Anyway.
I personally have no issue with people disagreeing with me. ALOT of my bros do on many things, even things I post on the forums. However, I know certain players here know what they're talking about. What I do have an issue with is the TERRIBUBBLES. Those who come in theads like these and don't even know basic mechanics, meta and have no experience or skill. You know! Talking Sh!t about what they no nothing about, apparently. So, yeah! I'll sh!t in thier cheerios and insult a dude on the forums. Only after they've shown complete and utter R3t@rdednesseseses or are as rude as I tend to be = (
Note: Cruisers are my FAV class of ship in game. I've flown them all solo including the Scythe and Osprey and in gangs. I personally don't want CCP focking up sh!t I like to fly and already do no matter what their weaknesses.
Clearly, I'm being a douche and I am rude. Some would call that passionate... [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Goldensaver
Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9
24
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Posted - 2012.10.12 15:44:00 -
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Kai'rae Saarkus wrote:Goldensaver wrote:
I was thinking something similar. Each plate higher should take 1/2 the slots, and have double mass. Give double the armor and have more than double the fitting requirements. Effectively, I'd like to see 2x 100mm's equal a 200mm in HP and mass, but at the cost of one more slot, but less fitting(10% less overall?). This may be how it is now (I don't know, too lazy to check), but it isn't consistently like that. I'd like to see that passed on all the way up.
It's like that for each 'Class' of plates. But it's an order of magnitude different between classes of plates. (50,100 are Frig class; 200, 400 are Cruiser; 800,1600 are BS). You only need 4 plates to give variety (2,4,8 and 16 '00). Make 200's frig mass class (75,000Kg); 800's (750,000Kg) cruiser weight class and you solve most of those size plates problems.
Shows what I know. I've only ever used 400's on my Tormentor, and 1600's on my Cruisers and up. Never even looked at the others. |
Dread Pirate Pete
Tribal Core Defiant Legacy
68
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:44:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:KILLZ SKILLZ B LEET. RESPECT BRA GAR GAR my bros TERRIBUBBLES my FAV focking up sh!t
passionate
You make baby Jesus cry |
Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
89
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:02:00 -
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Dread Pirate Pete wrote:Major Killz wrote:KILLZ SKILLZ B LEET. RESPECT BRA GAR GAR my bros TERRIBUBBLES my FAV focking up sh!t
passionate You make baby Jesus cry
Lol! [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
233
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Posted - 2012.10.12 18:49:00 -
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Dread Pirate Pete wrote:Major Killz wrote:KILLZ SKILLZ B LEET. RESPECT BRA GAR GAR my bros TERRIBUBBLES my FAV focking up sh!t
passionate You make baby Jesus cry Wow i have not heard leet in like 10 years.... Ideas for Drone Improvement https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1658683#post1658683 Updated 10/10/12 |
Dato Koppla
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2012.10.13 07:16:00 -
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At this point it's actually entertaining lol. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.10.13 15:55:00 -
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Thread has been cleaned, off topic and troll posts have been removed. Now back to the main event. Remember folks, post sensibly - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
525
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Posted - 2012.10.13 17:41:00 -
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A lot of our feedback on proposed ship hulls would be much more useful if we knew what Fozzy had in mind for fixing armor tanking. |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
222
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Posted - 2012.10.13 23:50:00 -
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Id like to see "Marines, Grade E through A+" to be added to Ship Crew, and be able to control entire sim 2000 style through the PI interface to "Recruit" crew members which could then be used in any slots of the ship for passive armor repair.
Possible Future expansions for this idea:
Repel boarding parties that would force you to eject from your ship in your POD (gives a whole new Dimension on PVP) Launch Small Scale Planetary assaults (first person shooter)
Initially this would improve player experience across the board, from Markets having something new things to toy with, a wh0le new vector on PI that will have a game-in-game feature but also help close the ties between dust and EvE on many levels. This would improve PvP, and give us the option to better interact PvP wise with eachother and Dust. |
Iyacia Cyric'ai
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.14 07:53:00 -
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Can you please, please, please give the stabber at least 2 drones? In fact I think the minimum for any hull should be 2 drones or no drones. Managing a single drone is just annoying. |
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Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
134
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:36:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:
I would prefer the issue be handled like so.
400mm / Frigate > Destroyer 800mm / Cruiser > Battlecruiser 1600mm / Battleship
Small Extender / Frigate > Destroyer Med Extender / Cruiser > Battlecruiser Large Extender / Battleship
you have pinpointed it! this is the core of the problem
Still, give me a reason - who wants to fly cruisers? they are still paper thin compared to BC.
IMHO BCs need to be slow and bulky and heavy DPS but limited to closer ranges, where CRUISERs may have SUPERIOR speed and LONG RANGE abilities. |
Camera Drone
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.10.16 13:53:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:First Edit: Looks good, but I am really gonna miss the +5% microwarpdrive capacitor bonus on the thorax
+1 mid slot |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
294
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:03:00 -
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They should be increasing fitting requirements on extenders, not removing it from plates .... |
Stalking Mantis
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
215
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:06:00 -
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what about HAM missle bays? those have always been a problem to fit. We fly outgunned, We fly outnumbered. It's what we do. http://www.youtube.com/user/Flyinghotpocket/videos |
Alara IonStorm
3296
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:09:00 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:what about HAM missle bays? those have always been a problem to fit. 10% decrease in grid requirement. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:10:00 -
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i'd love to know why the stabber has too be so much faster than the rest? surely the others shouldn't be so far behind give them more speed and also lower their mass so they are the lightest T1 cruisers as the OP suggests they should be improving their ability to get to their top speed and improving their agility would be a good thing. |
Aglais
Liberation Army BricK sQuAD.
118
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:13:00 -
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Harvey James wrote:i'd love to know why the stabber has too be so much faster than the rest? surely the others shouldn't be so far behind give them more speed and also lower their mass so they are the lightest T1 cruisers as the OP suggests they should be improving their ability to get to their top speed and improving their agility would be a good thing.
It always was. That was just in the form of a velocity bonus per level. They melded that into the hull by default.
The real unforgivable inconsistency is the Rupture, which is a combat cruiser, and faster than the Stabber, while doing more damage and having more defense. |
Sheynan
Lighting the blight
76
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:19:00 -
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I agree, the Stabber feels too weak.
Ok, it's super-fast, but that's about it, it has neither the damage projection of a vagabond to sucessfully kite nor other special features that would make it worth flying over other attack cruisers (Shield-nano Omen will do about double the damage with Scorch while having similar speed; Rupture is just plain better is any case...)
What about giving the Stabber a traditional split-weapon style ? As in: a) more powergrid b) 15m-¦ drone bandwith c) + 1 launcher d) +7,5%/lvl missile launcher ROF
It would be the essence of all that is Minmatar...all kinds of weapons...falloff bonus.. speed. However, even with perfect skills it would not even break 500dps on a maximum gank fitting with HAMs, 425mms and Hobs. Sounds balanced to me, considering a gank thorax/omen can pump out up to 700-800. |
Major Killz
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
100
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Posted - 2012.10.16 23:29:00 -
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There's no doubt a shield-Omen will project and apply ALOT more damage @ range compared to a Stabber. A shield-Omen will out damage a shield-Rupture, Thorax and p much all other tech 1 cruisers; except the Caracal and Bellicose.
So, it's not alone in that regard. There will always be terrible ships in a class. I mean, the stabber does have a falloff bonus which enables it to outdamage a shield-Rupture @ range without drones. That's something, but you'll always have ships that out shine the rest and everyone will start flying them.
The Maller may be the weakest combat cruiser and the stabber may be the weakest attack cruiser. Someone has to be. [SMUG]-áSORRY for party rocking! v0v
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Lavitakus Bromier
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.10.18 19:54:00 -
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Ya but stabbers got more speed on the omen. It may out damage a stabber but and.decen pilot in..stabber.can.kite.it. |
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Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
104
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:06:00 -
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Lavitakus Bromier wrote:Ya but stabbers got more speed on the omen. It may out damage a stabber but and.decen pilot in..stabber.can.kite.it. One word : Scorch. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
1927
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:32:00 -
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Quick update on these guys, got a few tweaks to polish them a bit and help differentiate them from the Combat Cruisers:
Omen -100 Structure +10 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Caracal -100 Structure +5 Velocity -1,000,000 mass +0.035 Agility -10 Sig Radius
Thorax -100 Structure +5 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Stabber -100 Structure +5 Velocity Removed the dronebay and bandwidth -5 Sig Radius Game Designer | Team Game of Drones https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
142
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:42:00 -
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INB4 Stabber raaaaaaage. I like |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.10.19 13:51:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Quick update on these guys, got a few tweaks to polish them a bit and help differentiate them from the Combat Cruisers:
Omen -100 Structure +10 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Caracal -100 Structure +5 Velocity -1,000,000 mass +0.035 Agility -10 Sig Radius
Thorax -100 Structure +5 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Stabber -100 Structure +5 Velocity Removed the dronebay and bandwidth -5 Sig Radius
very tame changes stabber is too quick and these are still heavier than combat cruisers why? |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
1928
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:29:00 -
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There are changes to the Combat cruisers coming through the pipeline atm that will be the more significant part of ensuring each ship has its own flavour. Game Designer | Team Game of Drones https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:32:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:There are changes to the Combat cruisers coming through the pipeline atm that will be the more significant part of ensuring each ship has its own flavour.
good that rupture needs a overhaul |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
150
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:38:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:There are changes to the Combat cruisers coming through the pipeline atm that will be the more significant part of ensuring each ship has its own flavour.
Hope it contains a moa midslot, it really needs one to differentiate it as having a great shield tank if it is to remain at 195m/s
I like the attack cruisers now. Hopefully the fix for the combats will have the rupture moving more reasonably in comparison with the non-minmatar attack boats, and the moa will end up more able to compete with the vexor/thorax. |
Nul'tessa
No Option Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.10.19 14:43:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Quick update on these guys, got a few tweaks to polish them a bit and help differentiate them from the Combat Cruisers:
Omen -100 Structure +10 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Caracal -100 Structure +5 Velocity -1,000,000 mass +0.035 Agility -10 Sig Radius
Thorax -100 Structure +5 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Stabber -100 Structure +5 Velocity Removed the dronebay and bandwidth -5 Sig Radius
When you make these tweaks do you update the opening post with the new stats? Or is that post still showing the original stats?
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
1930
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:21:00 -
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Nul'tessa wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Quick update on these guys, got a few tweaks to polish them a bit and help differentiate them from the Combat Cruisers:
Omen -100 Structure +10 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Caracal -100 Structure +5 Velocity -1,000,000 mass +0.035 Agility -10 Sig Radius
Thorax -100 Structure +5 Velocity -10 Sig Radius
Stabber -100 Structure +5 Velocity Removed the dronebay and bandwidth -5 Sig Radius When you make these tweaks do you update the opening post with the new stats? Or is that post still showing the original stats?
The OP is updated Game Designer | Team Game of Drones https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Goldensaver
Vorbild Industries Inc. State Section 9
44
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Posted - 2012.10.19 15:41:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Nul'tessa wrote:
When you make these tweaks do you update the opening post with the new stats? Or is that post still showing the original stats?
The OP is updated o7
Brilliant. Now I can do even more mad scientist-ey EFT warrior failfitting.
Thank you for the quick updates. And for the updates in general. |
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