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JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:19:00 -
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I'm wondering if anyone's tried fitting artillery instead of ACs on a Mach for certain missions that require long range damage, such as "Mining Misappropriation"? Those ships do a lot of damage up close and eat through my healthy tank too quickly, so I was thinking of taking them out long-range.
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:23:00 -
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I don't own a Mach myself but after thinking for 3 seconds I came to the chocking conclusion that LONG RANGE WEAPONS WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS WHEN SHIPS WILL BE OUT OF YOUR OPTIMAL FOR A LONG TIME WHEN USING SHORT RANGE GUNS.
Why don't you just give it a try?
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:28:00 -
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Fit blasters. They're awesome.
HABIT
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Privateeralliance Sucks
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:29:00 -
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Arty mach does the same dps with arty, that a maelstrom does with short range... it also has battlecruiser speed + has more tank.... but does cost 6x the price
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JonnyRandom
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Posted - 2011.07.21 17:38:00 -
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So you think I'm better off fitting a Mael and using that for specific situations?
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.21 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: JonnyRandom So you think I'm better off fitting a Mael and using that for specific situations?
Yes, but it's rather rare. Parrots, commence!
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2011.07.21 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: JonnyRandom So you think I'm better off fitting a Mael and using that for specific situations?
I only use the Mach now on Serp Extraveganza to MWD and get close to the damn sensor dampners, before that it was the mission ship while marauder skills trained out. Other then that, I use the Vargur now and just keep the mach to tool around in.
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Predator989
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Arty mach does the same dps with arty, that a maelstrom does with short range... it also has battlecruiser speed + has more tank.... but does cost 6x the price
arty maelstrom does NOT do the same dps as an Arty Mach lol. both fit with 4x damage mods (faction) and the maelstrom does only 807 compared to its 927. (both without drones)
I have not tried an Arty mach for mission running, but maybe one day I will try it out
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Quinn Diaz
DON'T DO IT DAD
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Predator989
Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Arty mach does the same dps with arty, that a maelstrom does with short range... it also has battlecruiser speed + has more tank.... but does cost 6x the price
arty maelstrom does NOT do the same dps as an Arty Mach lol. both fit with 4x damage mods (faction) and the maelstrom does only 807 compared to its 927. (both without drones)
I have not tried an Arty mach for mission running, but maybe one day I will try it out
He said an arty mach does the same dps as a SHORT RANGE AKA AC mael.
With that cleared up I'm not sure if it's correct though.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Predator989
Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Arty mach does the same dps with arty, that a maelstrom does with short range... it also has battlecruiser speed + has more tank.... but does cost 6x the price
arty maelstrom does NOT do the same dps as an Arty Mach lol. both fit with 4x damage mods (faction) and the maelstrom does only 807 compared to its 927. (both without drones)
I have not tried an Arty mach for mission running, but maybe one day I will try it out
He said the machariel with arty does what the maelstrom does with AC. Learn to read engrish. Parrots, commence!
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lou1se
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Posted - 2011.07.21 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Quinn Diaz
Originally by: Predator989
Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks Arty mach does the same dps with arty, that a maelstrom does with short range... it also has battlecruiser speed + has more tank.... but does cost 6x the price
arty maelstrom does NOT do the same dps as an Arty Mach lol. both fit with 4x damage mods (faction) and the maelstrom does only 807 compared to its 927. (both without drones)
I have not tried an Arty mach for mission running, but maybe one day I will try it out
He said an arty mach does the same dps as a SHORT RANGE AKA AC mael.
With that cleared up I'm not sure if it's correct though.
AC Mael does indeed do "slightly" more DPS than an Arty mach.
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Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada Apex United
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Posted - 2011.07.21 22:54:00 -
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You haven't truly experienced eve, until you have oneshotted an NPC battleship with a 1400 arty mach. Due to the ridiculous amount of falloff, you can even use quake in your guns if you want to. Due to the speed of the mach, either approach quickly (for longrange targets) or move away quickly (for shortrange targets) and you can say byebye to any tracking issues.
That being said... a 1200 arty mach might be better if you are looking at consistent damage and minimizing overkill...
Final conclusion, it works, its effective, and you would still probably be better off with an AC mach in 90% of situations. But if you just want to fly one for giggles, go for it. AWU 5 mandatory.
[Machariel, Super Arty] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Small Tractor Beam I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Ionic Field Projector I [empty rig slot]
or [Machariel, Artillery] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Heat Dissipation Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1200mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L [empty high slot]
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II Large Ionic Field Projector I [empty rig slot]
optimal is about the same for both, but the 1200 fit has 126km falloff to the 1400's 85km falloff. Damage is 841 before implants for the 1400 fit, 765 for the 1200 fit. All mods subject to pimpage according to your own budget. 5% implants, RF damage mods, and quake loaded will put the 1400 fit over 1000dps before drones. Yes, realistically you won't be using quake, but hey - sometimes it is indeed worth it.
-Arazel
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Headerman
Minmatar Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.07.21 23:37:00 -
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If you are well aware of what the mission is, why not give the arty mach a try out? Load up some RF PP/fusion/EMP, or even some Quake and get into it
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2011.07.22 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman If you are well aware of what the mission is, why not give the arty mach a try out? Load up some RF PP/fusion/EMP, or even some Quake and get into it
^^This^^ Part of the fun of EVE
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