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Aoyagi Haineko
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:26:00 -
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I'm curious, how does warp drive work, according to EVE's lore?
I'm sure it's been answered before, but search didn't come up with anything >.>
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Cyra Mangeiri
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:20:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp
I think that's how warp drives work, it's not "warp", but just a(n early) variation of jump drive that can take your ship from one gravity well to another. I might be wrong, though.
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Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Robonia
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Posted - 2011.07.26 09:05:00 -
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my understanding the ship makes a pocket of its own space by removing all energy and mater in a thin shell around the ship and in such becomes part of its own space. From there it can move at its own speed (which is under the speed of light) and slips though space easily. Since its sheltered by this pocket it cant 'see' anything but gravity wells which makes it so you need a destination for it to work.
Moreover a warp scrambler basically bombards the target with tons of mater and energy making it difficult to create such a pocket. stabilizers and the like strengthen the pocket.
Thats my understanding at least. given from aforementioned article and intuition. |
Grey Faith
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Posted - 2011.07.26 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Thgil Goldcore my understanding the ship makes a pocket of its own space by removing all energy and mater in a thin shell around the ship and in such becomes part of its own space. From there it can move at its own speed (which is under the speed of light) and slips though space easily. Since its sheltered by this pocket it cant 'see' anything but gravity wells which makes it so you need a destination for it to work.
Moreover a warp scrambler basically bombards the target with tons of mater and energy making it difficult to create such a pocket. stabilizers and the like strengthen the pocket.
Thats my understanding at least. given from aforementioned article and intuition.
3 AU a second is well over the speed of light. Earth is 1 AU from the sun, it takes light from the sun 8 minutes to reach us. It would be really fun if they would red and blue-shift stuff like suns or light from weapons.
Have a great day, and fly fast! |
Thgil Goldcore
Amarr Robonia
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Posted - 2011.07.26 18:30:00 -
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yes, but your traveling below the speed of light in your own pocket of space, faster than the speed of light in normal space. Its science fiction, you only need a grain of truth in order to make something sound plausible.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Emminent Terraforming O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.26 22:58:00 -
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Actually the warp scrambler messes with the navigation computer and that is why it does not allow you to jump. so a WCS is likely something that protects the navigation systems using the main sensors and as such it lowers your ability to lock on to things since some of the main sensors are now being used by the Nav-Com.
Now for gameplay you simply cannot warp if you are pointed beyond your warp strength.
in Lore there is no reason a simple surge straight forward of say 100,000km could not be done by disengaging the safeties that prevent warp without nav-com guidance but id imagine that would require an engineer on the skill level of Scotty.
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Anuiruson Bennington
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Posted - 2011.07.28 06:54:00 -
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Thgil you are basically correct. Dark Matter and other matter in space is what determines the speed of velocity of a light photon. Especially the interaction between dark matter and the light photon.
The warp drive engines project a field of similar polarity dark matter at the same frequency of the dark matter in local space around the ship. The same polarity interaction causes the dark matter and other atoms around the ship to be repelled just a few planck seconds from around the ship allowing an absolute void of any matter that would otherwise create a force of resistance against the ship. The vessels dark matter field is then attenuated from the front of the ship to the rear so that the ship has a pressure being placed on it from behind. The pressure thus sends the vessel forward at a rate of velocity comparable to the total amount of dark matter that was displaced by the ships warp drive engine.
If you blow several balloons up to various sizes, where the balloon will represent the dark matter field around your ship, and then squeeze the balloon from the front to tie point the balloon will be propelled forward based off of the pressure that your hand, which in this instance is mimicking the dark matter around your ship, is placing against the balloon.
Just a fun little experiment to help explain warp drive.
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Zela Kahn
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Posted - 2011.08.05 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zela Kahn on 05/08/2011 01:39:24
Originally by: Aoyagi Haineko I'm curious, how does warp drive work, according to EVE's lore?
I'm sure it's been answered before, but search didn't come up with anything >.>
Thanks
have to say a warp drive is something that would create a "bubble" around a vessel(frigate or what have you) and send it at speeds that we cant currently reach w/o nuke energy.
I hear that you would need a system of gates, a smaller scale of the jump gates you see on eve...
even so warp-speed would probably kill you if it was even possible. but i am going by RL not by EvERL
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.08.05 05:16:00 -
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Hello! I've also been thinking about this. While that article CCP gives us tells us the canon reason why the warp drive works, I think a much simpler explanation would be something like the Alcubierre Drive.
Whenever I'm roleplaying I treat the warp drive as an Alcubierre drive, because it allows us to handwave many of the odd things we see as far as game mechanics go. For example, our ships aren't falling towards planets and stars due to gravity but rather are holding still. Or that you can go inside a star and then "bounce" off the core. Those kinds of things are explainable by the Alcubierre drive, but not by CCP's canon article. Then again CCP hasn't updated those in ages, and I do hope they adopt the canon warp mechanics as being those of the Alcubierre drive (because we actually can describe such a thing IRL and know how it will behave, rather than using a bunch of plausible-sounding technobabble).
Just my two cents. ------- I spy with my third eye crimson clouds beyond the horizon... |
Kybernetes Moros
Amarr True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2011.08.05 11:31:00 -
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Yeah, I've spent a while discussing using an Alcubierre drive in place of the 'established' concept a fair bit, and as best we can all tell, it just works better than the scientific article on the matter. Physically, there's nothing prohibiting it bar warping the spacetime around the ship (and given the prevalance of gravitational manipulation in EVE's universe, this doesn't at all seem unreasonable), and, as Rek said, there are a few odd points that an Alcubierre drive explains away pretty nearly.
It's not perfect, granted, but it does a damn better job of it than the technobabble we have currently. 'course, I'm the kind of person who enjoys the challenge of figuring out the odd points of EVE tech scientifically, given my background in physics, so I might just be being crazy.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Emminent Terraforming O.G.-Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.06 04:40:00 -
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I know we can warp through planets because its easier for the server to handle.
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