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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:37:00 -
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One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft was because it literally took several hours to get a party/group togethure to clear content. Then even after that it would take more time to get the group or party organizied and that was providing that nobody had to suddenly leave or got poached by another forming group.
The Incursion system suffers these same problems...
There is an incursion 2 jumps from dodixie right now. I spent a bunch of isk fitting out a proteus with 72k armor hps and Insane Drone Damage.
Then when I arrive on the location I find there is shield fleets.. Loads and Loads of shield Fleets. In gallente space mind you.
Forget the fact that shield fleets sacrifice survivability for DPS thats a discussion for another thread.
What upsets me is that I spent 4 hrs Xing up in local and the incursion wide channel only to be put in a fleet that rapidly evaporated when we realized that all the sites worth doing were already occupied.
So far I have only done 2 successful incursions. I would love to do more but I simply can not stand being constantly reminded of World of Warcraft in that I have to wait for a bunch of neuro-typical and incompetent morons to get their **** together and form a fleet.
Everybody is waiting for somebody else to form a fleet and sometimes over 200 people will sit in the staging system without a fleet and spam the channel asking for somebody to form one.
It's a huge mess really and something needs to be done about it. One of the best things to happen to World of Warcraft was the Dungeon Finder (after they added rewards to the least popular roles)
Eve needs it's own Dungeon Finder. A system that pairs people up to do incursions, missions,etc. This way all I have to do is click a icon and put in some information and wait maybe 30mins instead of 4-6 hrs and I will be placed in a group with a competency rating on par with my own and I can get down to business.
If CCP did something like this EVE would be alot more fun and the new user retention rate would soar. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Dusty Warrior
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:43:00 -
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Actually I stopped once I saw the avatar of OP.
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Xenuria One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.
Woah... Your so cool and edgy! I wish I could be like you some day. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Xenuria One of the reasons I quit playing World of Warcraft
Stopped reading there.
Woah... Your so cool and edgy! I wish I could be like you some day.
Dream on Welsh boy, dream on.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:46:00 -
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I didn't actually read, because its by Xenuria (should go back to C&P IMO, torture them).
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Morganta
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:47:00 -
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so, you seem to be full of energy, form a fleet.
don't expect support from us when you are crying about other people not stepping up when you wont do it yourself.
and fleets use shields or armor based on available logi for the most part, if logi is running shield reps then you fly shields.
actually what do you even mean by saying that shield fits hose DPS? shields are mid-slot, meaning (if your cap skills don't blow) that you can load up the lows with DAMAGE MODS (unless like I said they are full of CPU and power boosts cos your skills stink)
this means the typical shield fleet has MORE DPS
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Xenuria on 07/08/2011 18:49:00 Mag... You have me confused with somebody else.
I am not welsh I am american. Nice try and formulating a meaningful insult.
Originally by: Morganta so, you seem to be full of energy, form a fleet.
don't expect support from us when you are crying about other people not stepping up when you wont do it yourself.
and fleets use shields or armor based on available logi for the most part, if logi is running shield reps then you fly shields.
actually what do you even mean by saying that shield fits hose DPS? shields are mid-slot, meaning (if your cap skills don't blow) that you can load up the lows with DAMAGE MODS (unless like I said they are full of CPU and power boosts cos your skills stink)
this means the typical shield fleet has MORE DPS
Re read what I said.
I said shield fleets do more dps but have less survivability then armor fleets.
I also DID form my own fleet if you bothered to read you would know that. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Dradius Calvantia
Gallente Galactic Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dradius Calvantia on 07/08/2011 18:53:28 1. Recurring problem/ probably your fault 2. Why the hell are you using the Incursion public channel 3. Go back to WOW if you want a game where you can ignore any interaction with other players that takes more time and social skills than "click role in dungeon finder." 4. Can I has you stuff
Could not be arsed to spend the time to reply to this post in well written, complete sentences. Normally I do pride my self in well laid out arguments presented in a clear and detailed manner. Just imagine I expressed those points in more elegant prose.
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Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dradius Calvantia 1. Recurring problem/ probably your fault 2. Why the hell are you using the Incursion public channel 3. Go back to WOW if you want a game where you can ignore any interaction with other players that takes more time and social skills than "click role in dungeon finder. 4. Can I has you stuff
Could not be arsed to spend the time to reply to this post in well written, complete sentences. Normally I do pride my self in well laid out arguments presented in a clear and detailed manner. Just imagine I expressed those points in more elegant prose.
Yeah.... No.
The incursion public channel is what you are supposed to use. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:53:00 -
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No confusion here son, you spit when you talk.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Xenuria
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's No confusion here son, you spit when you talk.
I am sure you are confused. We have never met ingame or Irl. You have me mistaken for somebody else. Either way you are trying way to hard to be cool. "Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cambarus on 07/08/2011 19:00:44 On the off chance you're not trolling: 1)Armor is a lot harder to find fleets for, you seem to be aware of this. You undoubtedly have the skills to fly something shield tanked, so do it.
2)Proteus sucks. Hell for vanguards even the tengu is ****. Get a NM or vindi, you'll get a fleet within seconds more often than not.
EDIT: a third point: The public incursion chat has 60someodd people in it. BTL pub currently has over 700. public channels suck. |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:00:00 -
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Join "BTL public" for shield, or "the ditanian fleet" for armor, this allows you to join fleets that aren't full of ******s waiting for other ******s to travel 30jumps so they can do one site and go cook dinner. Be sure to include which incursion you plan on doing, along with your shiptype/fitting when Xing up to avoid disappointment.
I see what you're saying, but making them too easy to organize will just increase farming, and in the long run exacerbate the problems you're having due to the influx of new people occupying the already limited number of sites.
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's No confusion here son, you spit when you talk.
Got something to say about Welsh people?
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:03:00 -
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oh and...
MONOCLE
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Mag's No confusion here son, you spit when you talk.
Got something to say about Welsh people?
They leek a lot.
Originally by: CCP Zulu Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Devil's Call
Caldari Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Eve needs it's own Dungeon Finder. A system that pairs people up to do incursions, missions,etc. This way all I have to do is click a icon and put in some information and wait maybe 30mins instead of 4-6 hrs and I will be placed in a group with a competency rating on par with my own and I can get down to business.
If CCP did something like this EVE would be alot more fun and the new user retention rate would soar.
No, eve does not need a dungeon finder. Eve is not the place for a dungeon finder. We don't have battlegrounds and arena's either. Although incursions look like raids, I guess, a dungeon finder just doesn't belong in eve imo.
You can join a corp if you want to find groups for incursions faster, or join certain channels in-game for 'pugs' that are already there. -----------------------------------------------
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Bane Necran on 07/08/2011 19:16:56
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Mag's No confusion here son, you spit when you talk.
Got something to say about Welsh people?
They leek a lot.
Never eaten a leek as far as i know.
It is my main ancestry, although i've never set foot in Wales. I'd also agree with anyone who says the language looks silly when written.
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Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:11:00 -
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I like RIFT ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions. |
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Lady Spank
Amarr In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:39:00 -
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LOL XDDDDD RANDUM ETC
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
Gallente In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:43:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with the mighty Welsh language.
~ PLAID CYMRU! ~
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Koti Resci
Knighthawk Light Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:45:00 -
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You don't need a dungeon finder. The players already made it. It's a chat channel.
There's an unspoken agreement between two, errr... factions shall we say, that divides the incursions up. Shield fleets get X space, armor fleets get Y space, and Z space gets contested. Join the correct x-up channel for shield or armor fleets and you get instant pewpewpew. Get even more instant pewpewpew if you're in a well-fit logistics ship - they're almost always needed, just like healers in WoW.
Since you're specifically *****ing about shield fleets, I suggest you look into the chat channel The Ditanian Fleet. It's not exactly the best channel to be recruiting from since it's pretty much public. But it's a good start and should be able to give you a chance to prove that you're worthy of being trusted in other channels.
I don't know (nor care) what the channels are for shield fleets. I'm sure if you ask around though, you can get it from a shield fleet member.
Good luck, fly safe, and enjoy your free ISK.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob There is nothing wrong with the mighty Welsh language.
True enoughà the problem is with its users, who create such abominations as your nameà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob
Gallente In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:48:00 -
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I don't see a problem with my name. Perhaps you just have a hard time pronouncing it. ~~~
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Epic DaSoto
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: daddys helper oh and...
MONOCLE
Your post makes me want to get a monocle.
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.08.07 19:52:00 -
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YAXT
(Yet Another Xenuria Thread) ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Titus Phook
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Posted - 2011.08.07 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgoge rychwyrndrob I don't see a problem with my name. Perhaps you just have a hard time pronouncing it.
lol looks like you ran into the character limit when you did the name. I can pronounce it, but not without taking a breath in the middle & you have to to it "Caerphilly" or you drool :) --------------------------------------------- CCP just shat in the sandbox, so they could try and sell us a gold plated shovel to remove said turd. :( |
Moe Cizlak
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Posted - 2011.08.07 20:13:00 -
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space is cold and harsh
all the more reason to find like minded friends to take on the incursions instead of relying on strangers --
what? you dont like my bags? |
Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.07 20:18:00 -
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EVE should have turn the system into a dark green gas clouds when there is incursion happening. Anything that moves in the system is getting bombarded by the gas clouds that move in it. Anyone going into the system will be attack by Pirates (AI). they should bottle neck this in main stream systems or hovering by Jita, not just 4 spots.. But Make everyone apart of the problem (Like in RIFT) this would be a isk sink! and would make everyone work as a team to get rid of the pirates base! Also creating mobs that are almost impossible for small group to take...
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