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lovepack
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Posted - 2011.08.08 13:13:00 -
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My friends and I recently started playing eve with the intention of trying our hands at pirating. Which brings me to my questions. We are currently three and are trying to fulfill different roles. One of us is sticking to frigates for tackling while another wishes to train into BC's for "DPS holocaust" which leaves me. I am gallente and am having trouble deciding what I should be going for. My friends are encouraging me to go into BC's as well but I had already trained Gal cruiser V and I feel like I would be wasting my to few skill points on a ship that doesn't need cruiser V. The Phobos caught my eye but it seems every forum I've read recommended I stay away from Gallente cruisers for pvp. Unfortunately I will be sticking with blasters as I have already invested a lot of time into them which leaves me on what ship I should be using.
Thank you for your time and if any information is needed to help with an answer ask and I will give it as best as I can. |
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.08.08 13:33:00 -
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TACKLE ! DPS ! EWAR! when out powers combine we form LEET GANG !
Go for a blackbird->falcon->scorpion and use ECM to render the enemy powerless.
Alternatively, you could train for a logistics ship like a Scimitar or Guardian.
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Jose Black
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.08.08 14:34:00 -
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Speaking of E-war you could give a Thorax with 5 ECM drones a try.
Louis, did you read the OP? Isn't it a bit strange to suggest every other races ships when he'd like to stay at Gallente cruisers?
Op, keep in mind tackling with frigates doesn't work near low sec gates or stations. A Phobos would do much better at it, but I wouldn't want to fly that much of an investment in a 3 man gang trying out piracy (i.e. not having experience at it yet). Also it takes much more skill training than just cruiser 5 to use it effectively on its intended role.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.08.08 15:09:00 -
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Duh I seems to have missed half the text (hint : enters!)
In that case I'd suggest the Oneiros
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Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
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Posted - 2011.08.08 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Go Diveher on 08/08/2011 16:42:39 Cruiser V? Low overall skillpoints?
Sounds like you'd do awesome-sauce in a T1 cruiser. A Thorax if you want to apply DPS to targets of equal or larger size. Yes, you will need to effectively dock with the other ship to make this work, go get some webs in your trio. Blasters are not awful if you get in range
Alternately a Vexor can be pretty nice. 5 T2 hammers, with the option of carrying medium ECM drones which can screw with a smaller-sized target significantly.
You're going to be the victim a lot before you're the victors, so stick to T1 frigates / cruisers and battlecruisers whilst you're learning.
Step up to the Myrm when you feel ready, which will offer the same utility as the Vexor.
LOVE the Thorax? Set your future sights on a Deimos. LOVE the Vexor? ..................... on a Ishtar. -------
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lovepack
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: lovepack on 08/08/2011 19:33:41 Edited by: lovepack on 08/08/2011 19:29:36 Thank you for the responses thus far! I should of posted this along with my original post - http://eveboard.com/pilot/lovepack. I have 400k unallocated that I was going to dump into propulsion jamming for the indicator. In regards to dying that seemed to be the one thing every single person has in consensus is that my friends and I will be dying quite a bit when we first start so I was planning on sticking with frigs till I grasp a better idea of what to do. If money was no issue what would you gentlemen be going for as a gallente pilot - BCs or Cruisers (Heavy assult or interdictor)?
Thank you once again! Oh and I am traveling at the moment so I will just be leveling up for a few months before I try anything.
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Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
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Posted - 2011.08.08 19:42:00 -
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OK, well that is a curious skillset for a Gallente pilot
Your skillset is a good example of how being broader with your skills (lots to level 3 or 4) is better than sinking a few to level 5. Having said that, you've already done a few of the "long ones" so you're not a long way from being efficient.
You have precious little drone or gunnery skills, which is going to make any of the cruisers or battlecruisers light on the assault. Using frigates for now (you have T2 small guns) is going to make you more effective than being in a cruiser / BC and not being able to hurt anyone. If I were to sink 400k anywhere, it would be into drones to go the Vexor / Myrm route or blasters to go into the Thorax / blasterboat route.
Either way, train all your support skills before training for the next hull; there's precious little point sitting in a 100mil HAC if you're sticking T1 guns trained to level 2 on it.
I am far (FAR) from being a "T2 or **** off" person, but T2 fittings > T2 hulls. -------
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E man Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:22:00 -
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Stay in the cruisers. Cheap and lots of dps..you will want the target webed and scramed so you can get real close. You can also fly e-war drones. these will save your life.
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lovepack
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Posted - 2011.08.08 20:26:00 -
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lol I appreciate your tact but you can just say it looks like an autistic child with downs was choosing my skills. Truth is I have been playing this character off and on for years and each time I came back I wanted to play something different. I think I will take up your suggestion and just stick with the Thorax and level up all the other sorely needed skills before considering the other more advanced ships. |
Lady Go Diveher
The Independent Troll Society
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Posted - 2011.08.09 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: lovepack lol I appreciate your tact but you can just say it looks like an autistic child with downs was choosing my skills. Truth is I have been playing this character off and on for years and each time I came back I wanted to play something different. I think I will take up your suggestion and just stick with the Thorax and level up all the other sorely needed skills before considering the other more advanced ships.
To win: 1. Open EveMON. 2. Find a Thorax fit you like. 3. In the bottom right, click "add to plan". This will stick all the pre-requisites into the plan queue. 4. Copy the fit into EFT 5. Look at each module, and look at the "affecting skills" 6. Start sticking these into EFT to level 4. Drop any that are a long train in preference to getting a few more to 3 or 4 in the same time-frame. (i.e. skip medium blaster specialization IV before surgical strike 3/4) 7. Right click in the blank white space, and repeat 5 & 6
You basically want to tweak this "all level 4" plan to fit an effective ship in a shortened time-frame. For instance, somethings will be level 5 for reasons of fitting or pre-requisites, but don't feel you need to spend 5 days getting a drone support skill to IV before you can fly the ship and be effective.
This will also show you one important thing: for any ship you fly, there are only a certain small subset of skills that affect the performance. You can be at 80% or so of total effectiveness (compare your skills to "ALL LEVEL V" in EFT) in a surprisingly short period of time.
The larger the ship, the less the previous paragraph is true, as the skills then take a higher multiplier. (Compare getting cruiser V, to getting heavy assault ships V). -------
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