Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.08.10 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: Caldari Citizen20090217
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai The reason mining sucks even with ABC ores
ācan be condensed into two words: Drone Regions.
Quote: Add to the fact that so long as you align and spam directional there really is no risk.
āsame as in all nullsec.
So why WHs would be any particular problem is quite odd.
This.
wh space: *no local *shifting exits *lower refine amounts *high risk, inefficient logistics *dscan every 2 secs *no intel channels (deep blue 0.0 is the safest space there is)
0.0: *local *intel channels *nearly 100% refine *jump freighters/bridges etc - easymode low risk logistics *so easy a machine can do it
tbh nerf ABC in 0.0.
I'll play... * WH space does not need intel channels, it's unconnected to other space. * shifting exits prevent hostiles from finding you easily, thereby providing you with *MORE* security. * harder logistics, not really, if you get a WH with a static highsec exit, the distance to trade hub is substantially less than in most of 0.0. * refineries are a problem, but Orca compression makes that problem go away.
Risk is comparatively lower simply by virtue of being harder to find. Also, your being at a site in space rather than at a belt means you have more time to notice people scanning you down. As opposed to 0.0 where one can simply warp to your belt and kill you.
Also, most of 0.0 does *NOT* have ABC.
My problem, as I see it, is that a nerf to C1->4 ABC would mean that ABC would be off the reach of most miners, because 0.0 currently isn't a place where miners thrive, most alliances consider them nuisances and/or dead weight. This, in my opinion, is the problem to solve.
I regularly disagree with Mittens, but on this he's right. What you're missing from all this is that this was but a footnote in the larger context on how to bring much-needed changes to industry overall...
Orcas can't compress ore - you need a Rorqual for that, which is a much more significant investment.
But Mittens is right. High end ores are far too common. The addition of ABC ores to w-space is but one part of a larger problem. Both the drone regions and the prevelance of bots need to be seriously addressed by CCP. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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